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Quick question about the joint sponsor. I understood that if I don't make enough to sponsor my spouse then we would need a joint sponsor and that sponsor, they're a household of 1, will have to make enough for 4 people, which includes them, our child, me and the immigrant (my spouse). So at least 125% of a household of four.

But one potential joint sponsor thinks that they only need to show enough for a household of three: themselves, the immigrant and the immigrant's child. While I won't have to be included in that since I am American and not a dependant of my spouse. That can't be right, can it?

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They are correct. He doesn't need to count you (the petitioner) in his household. He only includes the people in his household and those he is sponsoring. That's 3 in your case.

Edit: As noted below, the child doesn't need to be included unless he/she is immigrating as well.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Reuven said:

Quick question about the joint sponsor. I understood that if I don't make enough to sponsor my spouse then we would need a joint sponsor and that sponsor, they're a household of 1, will have to make enough for 4 people, which includes them, our child, me and the immigrant (my spouse). So at least 125% of a household of four.

But one potential joint sponsor thinks that they only need to show enough for a household of three: themselves, the immigrant and the immigrant's child. While I won't have to be included in that since I am American and not a dependant of my spouse. That can't be right, can it?

The sponsor only sponsors the immigrant(s)  not USC household members.

If your child is a USC the joint sponsor is sponsoring 1, the immigrant spouse.  If your child is not a USC the joint sponsor is sponsoring 2, the immigrant and non-usc child.

So the household size in this case is either 2 (sponsor + immigrant spouse) or 3 (sponsor + immigrant spouse + immigrant child if child not a USC) but you, the petitioner, are not sponsored.

Edited by Nitas_man

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Our child is American, but is moving to the States for the first time. Does that count as "immigrating"? There's only one non-American, my spouse. This blows my mind, for months I've been looking for a joint sponsor that makes enough for all three of us. How did I make that mistake? Are you guys sure? That if I have a sponsor who is a household of 1, then they only need to make enough to cover a household of two, if they are sponsoring my spouse? That's just $20,575 (125% FPG).

Maybe I was confused because for me to not need a joint sponsor I would need to make enough to cover a household of three.

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2 minutes ago, Reuven said:

Our child is American, but is moving to the States for the first time. Does that count as "immigrating"? There's only one non-American, my spouse. This blows my mind, for months I've been looking for a joint sponsor that makes enough for all three of us. How did I make that mistake? Are you guys sure? That if I have a sponsor who is a household of 1, then they only need to make enough to cover a household of two, if they are sponsoring my spouse? That's just $20,575 (125% FPG).

Maybe I was confused because for me to not need a joint sponsor I would need to make enough to cover a household of three.

No. If he is already a USC then he doesn't need a sponsor and he is not part of the sponsor's household. He is moving to the US, not immigrating.

When the joint sponsor fills out the I-864, the household size should become more clear in the relevant section regarding household size. It should just be themself + the intending immigrant.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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