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I have us citizenship interview coming up and have a question regarding the travel. 

I have one trip of 176 days before n400 application and one after I applied for 176 days.

Is this gonna effect us citizenship. 

 

Do I have to show physical presence. I did not lease but sharing room while in US during the absence.

I was not working either. What kind of physical presence evidence I need to obtain if they ask.

Posted

What are the dates of the trips and when did you file the N-400?

Are you filing for citizenship under the 3 year or 5 year rule?

If those are your only trips, you probably will meet the physical presence requirement. However, you may or may not meet the continuous residence requirement.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What are the dates of the trips and when did you file the N-400?

Are you filing for citizenship under the 3 year or 5 year rule?

If those are your only trips, you probably will meet the physical presence requirement. However, you may or may not meet the continuous residence requirement.

I am filing for citizenship based on 5 yr rule for myself. kindly please let me know 

may or may not meet continuous residence 

Posted
4 minutes ago, uma100 said:

I am filing for citizenship based on 5 yr rule for myself. kindly please let me know 

may or may not meet continuous residence 

I filed n400 sep 2017 and traveled (dec 2016-may 2017 176 days) and after filing (dec 2017 to may 2018 (176 days).

 

Posted
1 minute ago, uma100 said:

I am filing for citizenship based on 5 yr rule for myself. kindly please let me know 

may or may not meet continuous residence 

Physical presence should be fine then.

Depends on the dates of the trips. If they are close together, the IO can determine that you broke continuous residence.

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartD-Chapter3.html

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
Just now, uma100 said:

I filed n400 sep 2017 and traveled (dec 2016-may 2017 176 days) and after filing (dec 2017 to may 2018 (176 days).

Tough call...could go either way on continuous presence IMO. You were in the US only ~6 months over an 18 month period.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Tough call...could go either way on continuous presence IMO. You were in the US only ~6 months over an 18 month period.

No not 6 months over 18 months. I have been 6 months over an year. (dec2016-may 2017 (out of USA) june to nov 2017 (USA).

dec2017 to may 2018 (out of USA) and since June 1 us.

Posted
1 minute ago, uma100 said:

No not 6 months over 18 months. I have been 6 months over an year. (dec2016-may 2017 (out of USA) june to nov 2017 (USA).

dec2017 to may 2018 (out of USA) and since June 1 us.

Dec 2016 - May 2017 = ~6 months out of the US

June 2017 - Nov 2017 = ~6 months in the US

Dec 2017 - May 2018 = ~6 months out of the US

=> 6 months in the US over an 18 month period

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Dec 2016 - May 2017 = ~6 months out of the US

June 2017 - Nov 2017 = ~6 months in the US

Dec 2017 - May 2018 = ~6 months out of the US

=> 6 months in the US over an 18 month period

oh yeah, thats right. Normally, for continuous presence, they generally look for trips over 6 months. I tried to come back before 6 months therefore. How shd i answer if asked 

Posted
Just now, uma100 said:

oh yeah, thats right. Normally, for continuous presence, they generally look for trips over 6 months. I tried to come back before 6 months therefore. How shd i answer if asked 

Correct that there is a presumption after 6 months. But per the policy guide linked above, they will consider multiple trips less than 6 months as well. IO's call here. Good luck.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted
7 hours ago, uma100 said:

oh yeah, thats right. Normally, for continuous presence, they generally look for trips over 6 months. I tried to come back before 6 months therefore. How shd i answer if asked 

 

The IO will probably ask you why you were outside of the US for that length of time, during both 6 month trips...truth is always the best answer....if you had a specific reason/specific proof, good idea to take any documents related to that to your interview if asked about it.  Off the cuff it looks like continuous presence was broken over the past 2 years but also depends on other factors.

 

With continuous/physical presence they will look at all trips over the past 5 years---even the shorter ones.  To get a better idea of how much the longer trips may affect your continuous presence, would be helpful if you could list all of your travel from the past 5 years (from date leaving the US to date entering the US)

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: India
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Posted

To enumerate my last 5 years residence, travel and employment as a part of my N400 application process, I have filled up my N400 pdf form starting from my GC approval and continue to update it as and when there is a travel/change in my address/employment. This keeps us current with the dates required for N400 🙂

Just a trick to be alert with the dates.

My USC Journey noteshttps://tinyurl.com/myUSCNotes 

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Nov 31, 2020 (Day 00): Submitted N400 Application, filed online.

Dec 07, 2020 (Day 08): NOA Receipt received in the mail.

Feb 19, 2021 (Day 82): Biometrics reuse notice received online.

Dec 22, 2021 (Day 387) Interview is  scheduled for 01/25/2022.

Jan 25, 2021 (Day 420) Interview and Oath is completed.

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Jan 26, 2022 (Day 00): Submitted Application at USPS - Regular speed.

Feb 01, 2022 (Day 06): DOS received (status: in process) Locator 69: New Hampshire: Old Gen Passport to come.

Feb 23, 2022 (Day 28) :  Approved on DOS site.

Feb 28, 2022 (Day 33) :  Received the passport - Old Gen.

Mar 01, 2022 (Day 34) :  Received the passport card.

Mar 04, 2022 (Day 37) :  Received the original Naturalization Certificate safely.

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Feb 29, 2022 (Day 00) :  Received the passport card, used it for SS updates request on the same day.

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Singapore
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Posted
5 hours ago, Target2020ForN400 said:

To enumerate my last 5 years residence, travel and employment as a part of my N400 application process, I have filled up my N400 pdf form starting from my GC approval and continue to update it as and when there is a travel/change in my address/employment. This keeps us current with the dates required for N400 🙂

Just a trick to be alert with the dates.

HAH! That's pretty slick! All I've been doing is keeping track of my flight itineraries. 😂

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted

I wish I'd kept track of mine over the years!  I couldn't even rely on passport stamps when it came time for my N400 since I've never had my current or expired passports stamped---ever.  Quite common for Canadians, but it slightly stressed me out when it came time for filing...all of my dates were estimated to the best of my recollection.

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

 
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