Immigrant spouses vs. American Spouses

[Sinergy 3]

Oh Jesus not this thread again.

i agree

and i am so tired of the "american women have no morals or values" and bla bla bla, ppl who think that can suck it

[chri'stina 190]

Just wanted to touch on this particular part...and yes I did read your whole post. I am very proud to say I am in the 5% (in your opinion) of the women who don't embrace the things you mentioned. I am not materialistic, nor do I try to "look like a man". I have morals, and I value being feminine. I think it's a bit unfair to lump all American women into the category that you have. I would hazard a guess that maybe 95% of the women from YOUR experience would be more accurate? ....

Same here.

And sometimes I wonder if by feminine some people mean wears tons of makeup and is always dressed to the nines. I know girls who have tattoos, that have very sweet personalities. They aren't trying to be men. And feminine can be a subjective term.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what country your from. You can find ####### all over the world.

[Fandango 1,440]

Ohhh so you are saying that technology majors are the ONLY challenging ones???

*rolls eyes*

Ok....ya know I had a good friend in High school. his family immigrated from Poland when he was in middle school, so english was not his first language. He was a math and science GENIUS...he could have majored in ANY technology field and done well.

He went to Yale and majored in English...you don't think that's challenging???

A challenge is when logical thinking is enforced. Memorization isn't really challenging because all it's doing is not thinking. I am stubborn in this area because if no one proves me wrong, I will continue to reign this ignorance.

My professors also makes fun of people in CVPA majors. If you can't do Engineering, go do basket weaving. My ignorance is strong. Anyway, this is not this thread's topic.

You sir, are an ignorant twit.

[CarolineM 0]

BTW - that same guy I spoke of was diagnosed with terminal cancer his last year at Yale. He enrolled in a literature course about death...

but I'm sure it wasn't challenging because it only involved memorization...right?? He passed away one month before graduation....

[Robor007 0]

Most - and by that I mean 99% - of the outspoken 'opinions' against US citizens marrying foreigners are ignorant and bigoted. I know several USC/foreign couples and many USC/USC couples. I really don't see a difference between them and none of them were planned or arranged. For me I didn't deliberately seek a foreign wife - it just happened that the woman I met while on a cruise happened to live outside the US.

[ivona 0]

wait, what is now wrong with tattoos

Some people really need to get a life....

Feminity, like everything else, is in the eye of the beholder...

Beauty is about character

BTW, when my now-mother-in-law asked her son why can't he just find a woman here in the US his answer was simple: I go where my heart takes me. End of discussion

Edited May 7, 2007 by ivona

[Emancipation 2]

wait, what is now wrong with tattoos

Yeah not sure what's up with that.. but I have one and I love mine.. I think it makes me MORE feminine ..if anything.. it's pretty & girlie and no one will ever see it 'cept hubby

[Alex+R 0]

You know, I've found that almost everyone on VJ who has said negative things about American women as as whole/"most American women" they know/the American women in their area and those women's values have not surprised me because I already knew they were self-righteous ignorant blowhards. Nothing new here.

[Ban Hammer 14,290]

[Alex+R 0]

Hehehe just thought I'd throw some drama in there. I don't think it's gonna work though. I'm bored.

[Fandango 1,440]

Most - and by that I mean 99% - of the outspoken 'opinions' against US citizens marrying foreigners are ignorant and bigoted. I know several USC/foreign couples and many USC/USC couples. I really don't see a difference between them and none of them were planned or arranged. For me I didn't deliberately seek a foreign wife - it just happened that the woman I met while on a cruise happened to live outside the US.

I don't think anyone has a problem with anyone's choices...it's the way they go about expressing those choices....

like

'oh fillipina's are great with....' <---I've seen that more times here than you can imagine....why when some talk of their SOs do they homogenize that partner into just one of a group? Seriously, not all of ANY nationality is the same.

or 'American women have no values and are money grubbing, non-family oriented people' <--that's a load of ####### right there...and my presence...and every other American woman's presence on this board proves my statement.

Everyone here is free to think what they want, but to expect no one to be vocal against statements like the ones I put above...well that's just silly. I've said this more times than I can count.....

Let's face it, are there men and women on this board who have gone overseas cos there's more 'buying power' in the fact that they are American? Of course there is! Hey, afaic...fill your boots, make yourself happy...but leave the bitterness to your countrymen and women at the door!

oh, and

[TimsDaisy 0]

Ohhh so you are saying that technology majors are the ONLY challenging ones???

*rolls eyes*

Ok....ya know I had a good friend in High school. his family immigrated from Poland when he was in middle school, so english was not his first language. He was a math and science GENIUS...he could have majored in ANY technology field and done well.

He went to Yale and majored in English...you don't think that's challenging???

A challenge is when logical thinking is enforced. Memorization isn't really challenging because all it's doing is not thinking. I am stubborn in this area because if no one proves me wrong, I will continue to reign this ignorance.

My professors also makes fun of people in CVPA majors. If you can't do Engineering, go do basket weaving. My ignorance is strong. Anyway, this is not this thread's topic.

First - this barely makes sense. Second, how do you come to the conclusion that English majors - or any liberal arts majors, for that matter - merely memorize things? Reason is what is "enforced" in a liberal arts education - which, by the way, covers sciences as well as what you impliedly deride as softie liberal arts fuzzy stuff. Such an education teaches people to be scholars of all the world has to offer - regardless of whether their degrees say "engineering" or "literature" by graduation day.

This may not be what the thread is about, but it reinforces the stereotypes and heinous assumptions that weave throughout it.

What about the high percentage of male Literature and liberal arts faculties at colleges and universities?

While the OP didn't start this thread with ignorant claims - many others have freely run with the notion. I sincerely hope that those who stumble upon VJ for help with the process don't find this thread and use it to characterize all VJers.

[rebeccajo 14]

My ignorance is strong. Anyway, this is not this thread's topic.

We can make a new topic to discuss that if you'd like!

[vikasp 0]

(hope I'm able to bring this thread back on topic)

I wanted to marry a woman that has strong ties to my religion and culture. Someone that respects our long heritage. Someone that would devote herself to me as I would to her. I wasn't able to find one in America (though I admit, I did not look very hard). I'm stereotyping, but I find that Indians raised in America are neither Indian nor American. Exceptions are rare. I knew I wanted to marry in India when I went back to India for the first time in 1997. Besides, Indian weddings (in India, not abroad), kick ###. As the groom, I took my "host" of over five hundred people, all dancing and singing, to marry my bride. We had over two thousand people in all at the wedding.

[Caladan 19]

America's a big country with 150 million women, of various beliefs, traditional feminity, etc. Nothing wrong with looking in another country, but if your reason for doing so is "American women are all X", chances are the problem isn't with American women, because you can find an American woman of nearly every type.

And if your reason is "[This country's] women are X", you're taking the advertising on the international dating site too seriously.