Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

[Dashinka 23,421]

2 hours ago, bcking said:

Is it the sexual assault that makes you say that, or because they were underage? Or both? 

 

If he was accused by four women of assault but they were all 18+, would your opinion be different?

I treat rape accusations, and yes, sex with a 14year old would be rape in my book as more serious as the accusations about Trump which is what I believe you are alluding to.  This is one of the reasons I never voted for Bill Clinton, but of course he kept going even with numerous accusations of actual rape and is considered one of the best presidents the DNC ever put forth.  In this case though, I would drop out if I were Roy Moore and fight the charges through the proper channels and not through the court of public opinion which usually never works.  However, I am not Roy Moore and I don’t live in Alabama, so it really doesn’t matter what I think.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

It is Alabama, 14 is ok to marry as long as they are kin

No sheet 

 

"The age of consent is sixteen. With parental consent, parties can marry at age fourteen. However, this parental consent is not required if the minor has already been married. (Other statutory laws apply.) Common law marriage is recognized."

[CaliCat 3,957]

9 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

No sheet 

 

"The age of consent is sixteen. With parental consent, parties can marry at age fourteen. However, this parental consent is not required if the minor has already been married. (Other statutory laws apply.) Common law marriage is recognized."

 

So, if you're 14 and divorced, you can get married without parental consent. 

[-Trinity- 513]

11 hours ago, Jacque67 said:

 

 

Wouldn't it be great if VJ added a puke smiley to these ones: 

[smilesammich 10,727]

alex jones only cares about child sex crimes if they're occurring on mars or comet pizza.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

26 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

So, if you're 14 and divorced, you can get married without parental consent. 

If you are 14 and divorced?  How is that even possible?  "Mom,  I know you signed off on Roger and that did not work out so well. Just to let you know you were right we are getting a divorce cuz I met Johnny, But Mom I luuuuve him" 

[Dashinka 23,421]

32 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

If you are 14 and divorced?  How is that even possible?  "Mom,  I know you signed off on Roger and that did not work out so well. Just to let you know you were right we are getting a divorce cuz I met Johnny, But Mom I luuuuve him" 

I think you just answered your own question.

54 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

alex jones only cares about child sex crimes if they're occurring on mars or comet pizza.

What is a comet pizza?

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think you just answered your own question.

What is a comet pizza?

comet ping pong, whatever..#pizzagate

http://thehill.com/homenews/325761-infowars-alex-jones-apologizes-for-pushing-pizzagate-conspiracy-theory

[yuna628 9,547]

3 hours ago, smilesammich said:

i just, i can't. if we're looking to the bible to tell us what's okay and what's not..it should be acceptable that moore's accusers be stoned in public for being harlots. not to mention the absurdity in using mary and joseph's relationship and the conception of jesus as a cover - since mary was a virgin and joseph didn't even knock her up. my brain wants to explode right now. is this real life? are we in 2017?

I can't even either. Makes my blood boil. Currently laughing at how desperate so-called Christian political talking-heads are suddenly implying that Joseph is the one that impregnated Mary. That's going to be a real problem when they go home to church on Sunday and try to explain where they got that idea from in the Bible. I honestly don't know how these people can get up out of bed every morning, look at themselves in the mirror, and live with themselves.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

10 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I can't even either. Makes my blood boil. Currently laughing at how desperate so-called Christian political talking-heads are suddenly implying that Joseph is the one that impregnated Mary. That's going to be a real problem when they go home to church on Sunday and try to explain where they got that idea from in the Bible. I honestly don't know how these people can get up out of bed every morning, look at themselves in the mirror, and live with themselves.

I can't figure out whether i should laugh,cry or throwup

[yuna628 9,547]

2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

I can't figure out whether i should laugh,cry or throwup

Laughing is how I survive.

[CaliCat 3,957]

25 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I can't even either. Makes my blood boil. Currently laughing at how desperate so-called Christian political talking-heads are suddenly implying that Joseph is the one that impregnated Mary. That's going to be a real problem when they go home to church on Sunday and try to explain where they got that idea from in the Bible. I honestly don't know how these people can get up out of bed every morning, look at themselves in the mirror, and live with themselves.

 

They are not real Christians. True Christians don't go back sifting through the old testament to find something that suits their narrative; they stay true to the teachings of Jesus. That's why when Moore starts citing old testament scripture to justify his statutory rape, he loses all credibility. In addition, if he is indeed innocent, all he needs to do is have his lawyers sue this woman for defamation turned into libel, which is a tort. 

[yuna628 9,547]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

They are not real Christians. True Christians don't go back sifting through the old testament to find something that suits their narrative; they stay true to the teachings of Jesus. That's why when Moore starts citing old testament scripture to justify his statutory rape, he loses all credibility. In addition, if he is indeed innocent, all he needs to do is have his lawyers sue this woman for defamation turned into libel, which is a tort. 

I mean no offense here, but from one who came out of the evangelical community, I haven't seen or known a Christian that stays true to any teaching of Jesus in actuality. They simply stay true to a concept or idea that someone told them about Jesus and not actually Jesus himself... and if that concept needs to change to protect a status quo they will be prepared to do that. Remember, Jesus was Jewish, just as his parents were.. and he followed all laws under the Torah, as any man of his time would. If one really wanted to follow Jesus, they'd need to do the same, as the Apostles did. And.. I also cannot ignore there is a subset of Christians who do routinely cite the OT, when it suits a narrative - Messianics or a sort of hybrid evangelic commonly do this, but there are others for sure for any reason at all.

[CaliCat 3,957]

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I mean no offense here, but from one who came out of the evangelical community, I haven't seen or known a Christian that stays true to any teaching of Jesus in actuality. They simply stay true to a concept or idea that someone told them about Jesus and not actually Jesus himself... and if that concept needs to change to protect a status quo they will be prepared to do that. Remember, Jesus was Jewish, just as his parents were.. and he followed all laws under the Torah, as any man of his time would. If one really wanted to follow Jesus, they'd need to do the same, as the Apostles did. And.. I also cannot ignore there is a subset of Christians who do routinely cite the OT, when it suits a narrative - Messianics or a sort of hybrid evangelic commonly do this, but there are others for sure for any reason at all.

 

Which is why when someone says "I'm a good Christian," I laugh and say: buddy, you're neither. In the case or Moore, more specifically, his religious fanaticism belies his words and reveals his true character. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by CaliCat

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

I can't figure out whether i should laugh,cry or throwup

 

There is another option. Do what Muddy Mitch did: complete silence, for 44 seconds, on camera, no less.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/politics/mcconnell-silence-moore/index.html

 

Make sure you watch all 44 seconds of this. WARNING: It is a tough watch.

 

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/11/09/mobile-reporters-question-mcconnell-moore-sot.cnn