Opinion: Puerto Rico Is American. We Can’t Ignore It Now.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

21 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

It is interesting, all the stories I have read say the supplies are flowing at least to the partially open ports and I believe the airport is up and running.  The governor of PR has praised this administration for its pre-planning and response so far.  Does  governor want more and want it faster?  Sure, that is always the case, but as with anything it takes time to clear the supply routes inland to get these to the more remote areas.  But of course this doesn't fit the narrative the Left Wing press or the DNC folks want to portray.

Please don't let the truth interrupt a good Trump bashing.  Since the Russian thing fizzled and it was proven he was wiretapped,  that don't have much to work with. 

 

I have read some blogs that support what you are saying. He is in constant contact with socom, trying to get help into OR, and is being praised by many PR.

[Daisy.Chain 317]

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

If they are US Citizens they are Americans.  We are there to support in any way possible and should not back away from that position when the rebuilding effort comes.  

Qualified US citizens.

[Daisy.Chain 317]

59 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Puerto Ricans are regular US citizens. They pay their taxes as does everyone else. If they pay less than others, it's something that may be looked into, but it should in no way or form determine the level or support and aid they receive from the country. In the context of their immediate needs, they are no different than TX, LA, or FL. 

Actually, they aren't regular citizens like anyone else, they are qualified US citizens. You can Google what the difference in citizenship is if you're not sure.

 

Lots of countries have immediate needs, but what's different about them and TX, LA, or FL is that TX, LA or FL are part of the United States of America is that these other countries (including Puerto Rico) do NOT pay full US taxes. Puerto Rico pays some, but it is my opinion that if they want full emergency resources, they should pay full taxes. You can Google the taxes that PR pays in comparison to US States if you're not sure. If the US gave money gave based on what the need was, the US would not have anything left to care for itself. There are always going to be needs, unfortunately.

 

Now if PR SHOULD be a state (with both taxation and representation, and thus more US emergency aid) is entirely another topic, and one that will hopefully be revisited and discussed as needed.

 

 

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Pay up or die PR, you are not American "enough" to get all the help you needs because money talks.
As long as they sing praises to king Trump all is ok though.

 

Totally ridiculous and callous to even talk paying taxes at such a horrendous and tragic time with thousands starving and the sick dying.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

25 minutes ago, Daisy.Chain said:

Actually, they aren't regular citizens like anyone else, they are qualified US citizens. You can Google what the difference in citizenship is if you're not sure.

 

Lots of countries have immediate needs, but what's different about them and TX, LA, or FL is that TX, LA or FL are part of the United States of America is that these other countries (including Puerto Rico) do NOT pay full US taxes. Puerto Rico pays some, but it is my opinion that if they want full emergency resources, they should pay full taxes. You can Google the taxes that PR pays in comparison to US States if you're not sure. If the US gave money gave based on what the need was, the US would not have anything left to care for itself. There are always going to be needs, unfortunately.

 

Now if PR SHOULD be a state (with both taxation and representation, and thus more US emergency aid) is entirely another topic, and one that will hopefully be revisited and discussed as needed.

 

 

I will also point our the logistics of helping the PR are mu h more difficult.  You can't just roll power trucks and other supplies from neighboring states. This is nothing more than scumbag career politicians using a tragedy to help feed their soulless exsitance 

[CaliCat 3,957]

30 minutes ago, Daisy.Chain said:

Actually, they aren't regular citizens like anyone else, they are qualified US citizens. You can Google what the difference in citizenship is if you're not sure.

 

Lots of countries have immediate needs, but what's different about them and TX, LA, or FL is that TX, LA or FL are part of the United States of America is that these other countries (including Puerto Rico) do NOT pay full US taxes. Puerto Rico pays some, but it is my opinion that if they want full emergency resources, they should pay full taxes. You can Google the taxes that PR pays in comparison to US States if you're not sure. If the US gave money gave based on what the need was, the US would not have anything left to care for itself. There are always going to be needs, unfortunately.

 

Now if PR SHOULD be a state (with both taxation and representation, and thus more US emergency aid) is entirely another topic, and one that will hopefully be revisited and discussed as needed.

 

 

 

What really matters is that millions of American citizens in PR are in need of help. Puerto Ricans are regular American citizens, even if some people may not like it. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

13 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Pay up or die PR, you are not American "enough" to get all the help you needs because money talks.
As long as they sing praises to king Trump all is ok though.

 

Totally ridiculous and callous to even talk paying taxes at such a horrendous and tragic time with thousands starving and the sick dying.

 

I think Puerto Ricans pays all the taxes they are supposed to pay. I don't see anyone trying to make differences between TX, LA, and FL , and their taxes or the demographic composition of their population. But it helps distract from the horrible job the so-called president is doing lately.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/26/puerto-rico-may-not-be-a-colony-but-its-getting-treated-that-way/?utm_term=.2c650ba7cefe

 

Help never comes to the U.S. territory as quickly as it's needed.

Almost a week after Hurricane Maria destroyed the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico, President Trump paused from his weekend NFL obsession to share his thoughtsabout the 3.4 million American citizens who are now living with no power, no real communication, limited access to food and water, eight-hour lines to get gasoline, a collapsed infrastructure, and horrific stories of desperation and survival.

The federal government had already responded with relief packages for hurricanes Harvey (Texas) and Irma (Florida). But Trump didn’t sympathize with Puerto Ricans on Monday night. Instead, on Twitter he blamed the island for its problems, as if residents allowed a Category 4 hurricane to ravage their homes to spite him. Amid the worst humanitarian crisis in modern Puerto Rico’s history, Trump reminded the world that the commonwealth still had a $115 billion debt that Wall Street will still need to collect.

No power? No food? No way to communicate with others?

Just pay up, Puerto Rico, because according to Trump, your U.S. citizenry might not get you the billions and billions of dollars you will need to rebuild an island that, officials say, was demolished so badly, it set Puerto Rico back nearly 20 to 30 years. And despite reports that short-term federal aid is now being rushed to the island — nearly a week after Maria — White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday afternoon that plans to pursue a more comprehensive long-term relief package are premature.

The United States may not like to see itself as the type of nation that has colonies, but if you’re not treating Puerto Rico and its American citizens the same way as you treat states and theirs, that’s the only explanation. The island always struggles to get federal aid for natural disasters that flows virtually automatically to people on the mainland. Maria is the worst example, but it’s hardly the first.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

The military needs to get in there to help with driving logistics and dropping food and meds from the air to the remote areas.

[CaliCat 3,957]

6 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

The military needs to get in there to help with driving logistics and dropping food and meds from the air to the remote areas.

 

And we have the capability to do so. Our military has done many drop missions all over the world, delivering much needed help to people in need. Our guys are willing, ready, and able, but alas, we had more important and pressing issues in our country. There were elections in Alabama, and NFL kneeling players to be dealt with. These two issues must rank higher in the so-called president's list of issues to tweet about. 

Edited September 28, 2017 by CaliCat

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Just saw that PR has no available drivers to distribute the supplies, they are sitting there waiting to be delivered.  No drivers, no communication to the drivers,
some bus drivers are volunteering. Hospital patient are dying.....

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Just saw that PR has no available drivers to distribute the supplies, they are sitting there waiting to be delivered.  No drivers, no communication to the drivers,
some bus drivers are volunteering. Hospital patient are dying.....

 

Trump is busy deleting tweets. He can't do everything, ya know?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

36 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Trump is busy deleting tweets. He can't do everything, ya know?

my fingers have plenty of things to do

[Dashinka 23,245]

9 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

The military needs to get in there to help with driving logistics and dropping food and meds from the air to the remote areas.

The military is already helping.

 

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/09/26/damaged-ports-and-airfields-limiting-puerto-rico-aid-effort-dun.html

[Daisy.Chain 317]

10 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Pay up or die PR, you are not American "enough" to get all the help you needs because money talks.
As long as they sing praises to king Trump all is ok though.

 

Totally ridiculous and callous to even talk paying taxes at such a horrendous and tragic time with thousands starving and the sick dying.

Horrible things happen all over the world every day, unfortunately.

[Daisy.Chain 317]

9 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

I think Puerto Ricans pays all the taxes they are supposed to pay. I don't see anyone trying to make differences between TX, LA, and FL , and their taxes or the demographic composition of their population. But it helps distract from the horrible job the so-called president is doing lately.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/26/puerto-rico-may-not-be-a-colony-but-its-getting-treated-that-way/?utm_term=.2c650ba7cefe

 

Help never comes to the U.S. territory as quickly as it's needed.

Almost a week after Hurricane Maria destroyed the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico, President Trump paused from his weekend NFL obsession to share his thoughtsabout the 3.4 million American citizens who are now living with no power, no real communication, limited access to food and water, eight-hour lines to get gasoline, a collapsed infrastructure, and horrific stories of desperation and survival.

The federal government had already responded with relief packages for hurricanes Harvey (Texas) and Irma (Florida). But Trump didn’t sympathize with Puerto Ricans on Monday night. Instead, on Twitter he blamed the island for its problems, as if residents allowed a Category 4 hurricane to ravage their homes to spite him. Amid the worst humanitarian crisis in modern Puerto Rico’s history, Trump reminded the world that the commonwealth still had a $115 billion debt that Wall Street will still need to collect.

No power? No food? No way to communicate with others?

Just pay up, Puerto Rico, because according to Trump, your U.S. citizenry might not get you the billions and billions of dollars you will need to rebuild an island that, officials say, was demolished so badly, it set Puerto Rico back nearly 20 to 30 years. And despite reports that short-term federal aid is now being rushed to the island — nearly a week after Maria — White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday afternoon that plans to pursue a more comprehensive long-term relief package are premature.

The United States may not like to see itself as the type of nation that has colonies, but if you’re not treating Puerto Rico and its American citizens the same way as you treat states and theirs, that’s the only explanation. The island always struggles to get federal aid for natural disasters that flows virtually automatically to people on the mainland. Maria is the worst example, but it’s hardly the first.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/07/04/hate-taxes-move-to-tax-free-puerto-rico-stay-american-avoid-irs/amp/#xxri=10

 

This is a link explaining some of the differences between taxes that Puerto Ricans (qualified US citizens) pay and those of full US citizens.

 

Horrible things happen to countries every day. Should we fix all of the world's problems? Should PR be entitled to full US citizen benefits when they are only qualified citizens? The discussion continues.

 

I have to work now (and pay full US citizen taxes on my income), now, so if anyone is still confused on the taxation and representation differences between PR and the US, or does not understand what QUALIFIED citizenship means, please PM me and wait a few days.

8 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

my fingers have plenty of things to do