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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Maduro and before him Chavez have been dictators for a long time and neither Clinton, Bush, or Obama did a darn thing about it.  I suppose this is now all Trump's fault now. 

 

As to the article it really didn't add anything new other than to ask the same question and state the same thing, Democratic Socialism must be stopped.  The reason this is happening is because Chavez already purged the military of anyone not supporting the endless Bolivar socialist never ending revolution and now Maduro says he has to make a few changes to make sure he and his ilk are the only ones with any food, drink, or money.  This is what happens when economies turn socialists completely.  The only thing saving Europe is that they still have a relatively free market, but I imagine Brussels would like to change that.

Actually it's nobodies fault but Venezuelas. Neither Clinton, Bush, Obama or even Trump had/have a responsibility to do anything about it. Not sure where you get these ideas from, but you do like to throw strawmen about very freely.

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2 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Actually it's nobodies fault but Venezuelas. Neither Clinton, Bush, Obama or even Trump had/have a responsibility to do anything about it. Not sure where you get these ideas from, but you do like to throw strawmen about very freely.

Yes, as I stated earlier, this is Democratic Socialism at its best since the people voted and choose this for themselves. 

 

 

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Yes, as I stated earlier, this is Democratic Socialism at its best since the people voted and choose this for themselves. 

 

 

if you're serious about this crusade to end socialism or support us propaganda concerning venezuela, whatever it is you're doing, it might help to know the actual definition of democratic socialism. i know the 's' word is terrifying and all but, they're not the same thing.

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

 

if you're serious about this crusade to end socialism or support us propaganda concerning venezuela, whatever it is you're doing, it might help to know the actual definition of democratic socialism. i know the 's' word is terrifying and all but, they're not the same thing.

Yep, I read the website.  It is socialism by democracy, the people get the vote and the government counts the votes and acts accordingly.  Just like Venezuela.  Thanks for making my case.

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yep, I read the website.  It is socialism by democracy, the people get the vote and the government counts the votes and acts accordingly.  Just like Venezuela.  Thanks for making my case.

 i don't think you should claim it's 'your case' when you're clearly pushing the fear that your choice in media has ingrained in you. 

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6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yep, I read the website.  It is socialism by democracy, the people get the vote and the government counts the votes and acts accordingly.  Just like Venezuela.  Thanks for making my case.

Venezuela was quite Democratic, just look at the election results! :rofl:

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but, but, millions upon millions voted fraudulently in the last us election..let's focus on venezuela!

 

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During a surreal exchange, anchor David Muir grilled Trump over his continued spreading of the falsehood that millions of illegal ballots were cast in the 2016 election, which Trump had previously said was the reason for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton beating him in the popular vote by 3 million ballots.

And Trump did not back away from his claim in the slightest.

"We're gonna launch an investigation to find out," Trump said, doubling down on his Wednesday-morning Twitter announcement. "And I will say this: Of those votes cast, none of 'em come to me. None of 'em come to me."

"They would all be for the other side," he continued. "None of 'em come to me."

Trump insisted that "we have a lot to look into" regarding dead individuals, undocumented immigrants, and voters registered in multiple states being on voter rolls.

"You have people that are registered, who are dead, who are illegals who are in two states," he said. "You have people registered in two states. They're registered in a New York and a New Jersey. They vote twice. There are millions of votes, in my opinion. Now, I'm gonna do an investigation."

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-voter-fraud-abc-interview-2017-1

 

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8 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

but, but, millions upon millions voted fraudulently in the last us election..let's focus on venezuela!

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-voter-fraud-abc-interview-2017-1

 

 

Venezuela is the newest red herring. Keeps the focus off the Supreme Leader. 

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7 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The only thing saving Europe is that they still have a relatively free market, but I imagine Brussels would like to change that.

Indeed, and thank god for Brexit showing them it's not going to be as easy as they thought.

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8 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yep, I read the website.  It is socialism by democracy, the people get the vote and the government counts the votes and acts accordingly.  Just like Venezuela.  Thanks for making my case.

There's always Canada. Totally socialist here.

 

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