Transgendered and the Military

[Unidentified 2,930]

Just now, IAMX said:

Mental illnesses affect the way people think too. 

 

But yes, social construct.. imaginary.. exactly what I've been saying. Thank you for your concurrence. 

Did you even read it or did you just not understand it? Do I need to make it more simple for you?

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

that's now how it works. when you're in the military there's military health care. i don't know much about it, because i'm not in the military. but, since the military is one's employment and health insurance is employment based, you see where i'm going with this. i have no problem with people's viagra being covered, so long as this is an equal precedence. and again, not every transgendered person is getting surgery or hormones. but this is the angle certain parties like to push, because they have a very narrow and bigoted idea of what a transgendered person is.  

 

eta, i didn't see the ####### job bit..as long as it's medically necessary and would be covered under regular health insurance and not considered cosmetic only, go for it. i know there are people here who can't fathom a woman getting a reduction, but it's a real thing.

Then it's health care with all the bells and whistles, seems really excessive.

 

As for the ####### job they don't only get reductions, just prove it affecting you mentally and you can get an enlargement. My wife's first hubby was in the navy and apparently a few of the ladies took advantage both ways.  

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

If someone went for an interview for a job and said I am transgender and you have excellent health coverage so I really want to work for you. Oh and by the way for 1-3 years I won't be available to work properly because I will be recovering from surgery, would they get the job or would they be told to go do one?

 

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Then it's health care with all the bells and whistles, seems really excessive.

 

As for the ####### job they don't only get reductions, just prove it affecting you mentally and you can get an enlargement. My wife's first hubby was in the navy and apparently a few of the ladies took advantage both ways.  

The comparison to women with transgenders is also silly.

 

If only Trump went with this:

 

 

 

 

[Unidentified 2,930]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If someone went for an interview for a job and said I am transgender and you have excellent health coverage so I really want to work for you. Oh and by the way for 1-3 years I won't be available to work properly because I will be recovering from surgery, would they get the job or would they be told to go do one?

 

Where do you get 1-3 years from?

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

Just now, Unidentified said:

Where do you get 1-3 years from?

On a website for people that want to transition.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

On a website for people that want to transition.

Source?

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Then it's health care with all the bells and whistles, seems really excessive.

 

As for the ####### job they don't only get reductions, just prove it affecting you mentally and you can get an enlargement. My wife's first hubby was in the navy and apparently a few of the ladies took advantage both ways.  

well, if a person can in fact prove such a thing, i don't have a problem with it. but that's just how i am. i don't like making blanket judgments on people's lives/healthcare when it has absolutely nothing to do with me. i know a few women who married into the military for housing and insurance for their kids from prior relationships, marriages of convenience for the benefits. personally, i think its commendable that anyone volunteers to serve in the military and i think they should be taken care of as they're essentially putting their life on the line, if they're transgendered or need to pop some viagra to have a healthy sex life or want to enter into a marriage contract for cheap housing and good insurance, it doesn't matter to me. who am i to judge?

[sarahandyunus 133]

The entire transition may take 1-3 years but recovering from surgery would not take that long. 

 

Most people who transition take hormones for a few years before they have any sort of surgery (if they ever do). They are able to work normal jobs while on hormones, just fine. Source? Friends and acquaintances who have been through this.

 

Seems to me like the military already has financial burdens in military employees who are overweight/obese or decide to have a huge family on a low salary. Transgendered individuals surely won't cost more than those individuals. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

5 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If someone went for an interview for a job and said I am transgender and you have excellent health coverage so I really want to work for you. Oh and by the way for 1-3 years I won't be available to work properly because I will be recovering from surgery, would they get the job or would they be told to go do one?

 

you think transgendered people get preferential treatment on deployment to work around their surgery?

[JimandChristy 1,689]

6/14/16
Donald J. Trump  @realDonaldTrump
Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs.

 

Another lie from Donnie!

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, sarahandyunus said:

The entire transition may take 1-3 years but recovering from surgery would not take that long. 

 

Most people who transition take hormones for a few years before they have any sort of surgery (if they ever do). They are able to work normal jobs while on hormones, just fine. Source? Friends and acquaintances who have been through this.

 

Seems to me like the military already has financial burdens in military employees who are overweight/obese or decide to have a huge family on a low salary. Transgendered individuals surely won't cost more than those individuals. 

Yeah I think that @Mr&Mrs G. got the recovery time confused with the whole transitioning. And not all go for all the surgeries either. 

Just now, JimandChristy said:

6/14/16
Donald J. Trump  @realDonaldTrump
Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs.

 

Another lie from Donnie!

He doesn't seem to know what the T stands for...

[smilesammich 10,727]

4 minutes ago, sarahandyunus said:

The entire transition may take 1-3 years but recovering from surgery would not take that long. 

 

Most people who transition take hormones for a few years before they have any sort of surgery (if they ever do). They are able to work normal jobs while on hormones, just fine. Source? Friends and acquaintances who have been through this.

 

Seems to me like the military already has financial burdens in military employees who are overweight/obese or decide to have a huge family on a low salary. Transgendered individuals surely won't cost more than those individuals. 

yep and its not like hetero males and females don't sometimes have to go on hormones anyway. hello.. thyroid conditions. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

42 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Source?

Apologies can't find the link I read earlier, but it is a process that if all goes well it will take 1-3 years which is a common figure across most sites. For some it may take longer mentally and physically.

 

 

40 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you think transgendered people get preferential treatment on deployment to work around their surgery?

I haven't got a clue, but why should anyone be allowed time off from active duty to complete elective multiple surgeries. 

 

 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

40 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

yep and its not like hetero males and females don't sometimes have to go on hormones anyway. hello.. thyroid conditions. 

You had to bring up thyroid conditions