n400 question and avoid ONLINE Application

[super2007 1]

First of all thanks for this forum for great answers and tips few of my questions regarding n400 application:

1. Part 10, questions 6 b "Date Your current spouse became U.S Citizen

    I am doing this application for my wife who is Green Card holder waiting for conditions to be removed (within 90 days limit).  I am a US Citizen who has a US passport from 2011 not expired and my previous expired passport made in 2004 when i became a citizen has the date i got it but i don't have that passport on me anymore and i can't find it prob shredded the old one when  got new US passport. Should i put 2004 date for "when i became a US Citizen" from my old passport which i don't have with me to show in case they request it or should i use 2011 new passport scane?

 

2. Do we need 2 Passport style pictures? it seems that if you are overseas you need it but if you are in USA than you don't is that correct?

 

3. I originally tried to do the online application and when i got to "evidence" tab i had uploaded few scans of green card section etc and closed the + button to upload tax returns as i went back to look at "green card" section where i uploaded scanned copies of my wife Green card the website displays same name for each file uploaded! I had uploaded 2 pdf files 1 file with front of Green card and 1 file with back of the green card but when you "view or download" the uploaded documents they all show one file and the other file uploaded displays same thing as the first file.  Another example i uploaded 3 years of tax return but website shows same 2013 returns uploaded 3 times even though i have uploaded 3 years and 3 separate files.  So please be aware i don't want the application to be processed and have only 1 years of tax return or only the front of my wifes green card uploaded.

[Going through 5,668]

1.  Look at your naturalization certificate.  That will have the date you became a US Citizen.  If you were born in the US, then you just click that you became a citizen at birth.  The date on the passport just shows the date you were approved to get a passport---that date has nothing to do with the date you became an American citizen.

 

2.  That is correct.  You do not need to submit photos if you are filing from within the States.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2017 by Going through

[super2007 1]

8 minutes ago, Going through said:

1.  Look at your naturalization certificate.  That will have the date you became a US Citizen.  If you were born in the US, then you just click that you became a citizen at birth.  The date on the passport just shows the date you were approved to get a passport---that date has nothing to do with the date you became an American citizen.

 

2.  That is correct.  You do not need to submit photos if you are filing from within the States.

 

 

Thanks for the reply but i don't have naturalization certificate i got the passport through my dad without needed certificate

 

 

[Going through 5,668]

5 minutes ago, super2007 said:

 

can you ask  your dad what date he received the approval when he applied for your proof of citizenship?

 

Regarding your last question, the information that may help you with uploading documents starts around page 61 in the below link:

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/USCIS ELIS/USCIS_ELIS_Customer_User_Manual.pdf

 

Edited July 14, 2017 by Going through

[super2007 1]

No idea on the date just know the date old passport was made on

[AK_2014 113]

On 7/13/2017 at 8:09 PM, super2007 said:

 

3. I originally tried to do the online application and when i got to "evidence" tab i had uploaded few scans of green card section etc and closed the + button to upload tax returns as i went back to look at "green card" section where i uploaded scanned copies of my wife Green card the website displays same name for each file uploaded! I had uploaded 2 pdf files 1 file with front of Green card and 1 file with back of the green card but when you "view or download" the uploaded documents they all show one file and the other file uploaded displays same thing as the first file.  Another example i uploaded 3 years of tax return but website shows same 2013 returns uploaded 3 times even though i have uploaded 3 years and 3 separate files.  So please be aware i don't want the application to be processed and have only 1 years of tax return or only the front of my wifes green card uploaded.

That's unfortunate! I also had a couple of duplicate files mysteriously upload, but other than that, it seems to have accepted all of the documents. Hopefully they will be able to work these glitches out sooner rather than later.

[SamBillz 23]

Yep, I am getting the same thing. Duplicate documents showing up when i know that i uploaded one document each. The kicker is that even when i delete the attachments and save, it shows the same attachment when i go back and check. This is really frustrating. 

[super2007 1]

On 7/15/2017 at 1:09 AM, SamBillz said:

Yep, I am getting the same thing. Duplicate documents showing up when i know that i uploaded one document each. The kicker is that even when i delete the attachments and save, it shows the same attachment when i go back and check. This is really frustrating. 

ya i have been filling out the application on paper now.

 

Question for all

1. I have 1040 tax forms, instead of transcripts can i send those? i can't request online tax tanscripts as my phone number is not under my name so  i am unable to verify my self and create account.  I have requested paper transcripts

2. About blank/ N/A area i am still confused as to what to do for area that don't apply to me.  Random post here say leave it blank, some say do N/A on all empty space and some say first line do N/A.  What should i do?

3. For package, i have a normal file folder like here (https://www.amazon.com/Smead-Folder-Letter-Assorted-11943/dp/B00006IF1S) and will stack all papers with paper clips is that fine?

4. Do i need to include Table of Contents page TOP of all papers? i think the pay via credit card document says it needs to be on the top

Edited July 18, 2017 by super2007

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2.  Like you said, some put N/A everywhere, some leave it blank, some put N/A in only the first box  I left them all  blank, including the first box.  

3.  Don't waste your time with this, imo.  They will just remove all the paperclips and throw out all the folders.  If the package is really thick, secure it with a rubber band.  Note:  it's also known that USCIS hates staples with a passion.  

4.  You don't have to include a cover sheet but some do.  I did, only because I read that it becomes useful to an adjudicator when they are quickly trying to determine off the bat if you have submitted proper documentation relevant to your case, when you are sitting across from them in your interview.    Credit Card document needs to appear as the first page, yes.

 

Don't forget to make a photocopy of your entire application and all supporting documents before mailing it!

[r7holybo 1]

This thread was useful; I just got burned by the inability to delete uploaded evidence documents, and I thought I was going crazy! I'm going to revert to a paper application now :/

[marcusa 31]

thanks for bringing  up this technical issue ...it's frustrating to see the uploading glitch,

What's the best way to minimize the problem when uploading supporting documents online?

[Going through 5,668]

1 hour ago, marcusa said:

thanks for bringing  up this technical issue ...it's frustrating to see the uploading glitch,

What's the best way to minimize the problem when uploading supporting documents online?

From the advice I received when applying online, it seems that if you upload all of your documents in one sitting (in other words, not uploading some documents and then logging back in another day to continue uploading), it cuts down the duplication glitch.

 

That being said, I did mine in one sitting and a few of my documents still uploaded in duplicate.  In the end, as long as USCIS gets what they need that's all that really matters though, so I didn't stress over a document attaching itself duplicate times.

[candybabe 46]

On ‎7‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 10:00 AM, Going through said:

2.  Like you said, some put N/A everywhere, some leave it blank, some put N/A in only the first box  I left them all  blank, including the first box.  

3.  Don't waste your time with this, imo.  They will just remove all the paperclips and throw out all the folders.  If the package is really thick, secure it with a rubber band.  Note:  it's also known that USCIS hates staples with a passion.  

4.  You don't have to include a cover sheet but some do.  I did, only because I read that it becomes useful to an adjudicator when they are quickly trying to determine off the bat if you have submitted proper documentation relevant to your case, when you are sitting across from them in your interview.    Credit Card document needs to appear as the first page, yes.

 

Don't forget to make a photocopy of your entire application and all supporting documents before mailing it!

2. always put N/A in the blank fields - when the computer scans the form if you leave the spaces blank , it could error out or read another character in its spot - there have been cases where a person with no middle name was assigned a middle initial in error etc

3. Do not use staples - you may use a big clip / staple to hold it all together

4. The nice thing to do is include a cover sheet and list items in the order they were attached - it helps the reviewer and in case your file gets misplaced or everything falls on the floor , they will know what you sent

 

Also -

Make sure your A# is on all pieces of paper in the file

Preferably you would send a check - the CC authorization is a one time only thing - there have been cases on here where the bank did not allow the transaction to go through and the officer shredded the form without trying again - the full package was sent back - with a check they get a couple of tries at least .....

[The Conqueror 47]

UPDATE about "ONLINE APPLICATION''

 

I know this is an older post but since I'm surfing, reading and getting educated about current status of ONLINE application, so far ONLINE APPLICATION has improved a lot.  

 

So for future reference for N-400 Filers,  don't hesitate to try ONLINE application, it is so easy and reliable. However, ONLINE application doesn't gives greater advantage on "How fast the application will be".  It still depends what is your "FIELD OFFICE'' Processing time.  

 

Cheers,