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2 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Interesting take:

 

Yet at the end of the day, these responses don’t remotely address the problem we face as as a society. Talking about Comey and his choices won’t change the fundamental problem, which is about the Trump presidency, not about the former FBI director. And infantilizing the President won’t help either, because the office is no place for infants.

At the end of the day, the problem we face is stark. It is not okay to have a president who—as Jack Goldsmith put it last night—”does not remotely understand his role, status, and duties as President and Chief Executive” and for whom “this failure infects or undermines just about everything he does.” It is not okay to have a President who has so little regard for his oath of office that he cannot appreciate his deficiencies, has no desire to remedy them, and is thus prone consistently to behave in fashions repugnant to the very nature of the presidency. Comey said in his testimony today that he began taking notes immediately after meeting privately with Trump for the first time because of the “nature of the person” he was speaking to. It is not okay to have a president whose FBI director so mistrusts his “nature” on first meeting him that he feels compelled immediately to begin writing memos to file to have a permanent record of his interactions with the man.

In the coming weeks, we’re going to see the question at hand—what to do about the fact that the presidency is warped and malfunctioning in the hands of Donald Trump—filtered through a number of different lenses. There’s the political lens, of course, and that is a lens about which I have limited confidence in my own analytical prowess. Trump’s popularity is declining right now, at an all-time low of 38.2 percent according to FiveThirtyEight’s weighted polling average. This sounds really bad, but it’s actually consistent with Bill Clinton’s polling levels at the same time in his presidency—and Clinton went on to comfortable reelection. 

 

That sums up Trump's contempt for his office and the American people. 

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I think it was poor from Comey to get caught up in the anonymous sources by giving info of his memo's to a buddy.

 

Even though he was tracking all these "suspicious" conversations with Trump he still said he would have kept his job to this day and said nothing. He needed to grow a pair and report the President if he felt there was any wrong doing. Clearly he was doing a little damage recovery for himself today, remains to be seen how that goes.

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11 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

At the end of the day, the problem we face is stark. It is not okay to have a president who—as Jack Goldsmith put it last night—”does not remotely understand his role, status, and duties as President and Chief Executive” and for whom “this failure infects or undermines just about everything he does.” It is not okay to have a President who has so little regard for his oath of office that he cannot appreciate his deficiencies, has no desire to remedy them, and is thus prone consistently to behave in fashions repugnant to the very nature of the presidency.

He is a business man come reality tv star not an actor so if anyone expected him to act Presidential they got a rude awakening.

 

Trump has carried on being himself since he entered the White House which is what his supporters wanted, it just goes against the grain for those that prefer a more rigid personality.

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5 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

I think it was poor from Comey to get caught up in the anonymous sources by giving info of his memo's to a buddy.

 

Even though he was tracking all these "suspicious" conversations with Trump he still said he would have kept his job to this day and said nothing. He needed to grow a pair and report the President if he felt there was any wrong doing. Clearly he was doing a little damage recovery for himself today, remains to be seen how that goes.

 

 

Oh, yes. There is a certain degree of retribution in what he's doing, favored by the fact he has documents about his interactions with Trump. This may be his revenge, but it's not an empty one. 

 

You can say that as a result of him being fired he did grow a pair and is coming public about Trump's malfeasances. 

 

His motives are not as important as the information he has. This is only the beginning. Watergate took years to fully unravel. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

He is a business man come reality tv star not an actor so if anyone expected him to act Presidential they got a rude awakening.

 

Trump has carried on being himself since he entered the White House which is what his supporters wanted, it just goes against the grain for those that prefer a more rigid personality.

 

I don't think it's a matter of a more rigid personality. He should carry himself with dignity, and stop making a fool of himself, and the country by extension. He has become a national embarrassment, and damaging our relationship and influence around the world. You're right - a politician he is not, and he was unprepared to the Oval. The problem is that he's not even trying. He's feeding his alternate facts to a part of his constituents who are just to dumbfounded to admit they made a huge mistake, and they are doubling down, at the expense of the country. 

 

Trump is in it for himself and his family of grifters. They are using the WH as their corporate headquarters, and doing so while laughing at their own base.

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I don't think it's a matter of a more rigid personality. He should carry himself with dignity, and stop making a fool of himself, and the country by extension. He has become a national embarrassment, and damaging our relationship and influence around the world. You're right - a politician he is not, and he was unprepared to the Oval. The problem is that he's not even trying. He's feeding his alternate facts to a part of his constituents who are just to dumbfounded to admit they made a huge mistake, and they are doubling down, at the expense of the country. 

 

Trump is in it for himself and his family of grifters. They are using the WH as their corporate headquarters, and doing so while laughing at their own base.

The trumpsters bought the bad pony, now they can ride it. Yee ha!!

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Alternates facts are everywhere and mean nothing until proven, 

 

The only people that are embarrassed by him are those that didn't vote for him, his core voters are getting exactly what they wanted. 

 

For the next 3.5 years get used to the Trump reality tv show every day otherwise you will drive yourself nuts. 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/trump-speech-faith-freedom-coalition.html

trump watched 45 minutes of the Comey testimony in dining room -told lawyers it "proved we are right" "we're winners and we are going to fight"

guess 150 mins too long for Donnie...3 scoops for everyone!!! (Kasowitz defended oreilly against allegations of sexual harassment for fox ...hmm..didn't end well, but Kasowitz made some $$$$$)

 

dude delusional...looked seriously doped up at his press conference today...even the doctors are making $$$$

jobs jobs jobs!!!! And liquor stores!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/trump-comey-takeaways.html

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11 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

No mention of Comey's  NY Times fake news accusation in their "Comey Take-Aways" :whistle:

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He is proud to accept this Gold award on behalf of all legal applicants wishing to enter the USA :rofl:

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27 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/trump-speech-faith-freedom-coalition.html

trump watched 45 minutes of the Comey testimony in dining room -told lawyers it "proved we are right" "we're winners and we are going to fight"

guess 150 mins too long for Donnie...3 scoops for everyone!!! (Kasowitz defended oreilly against allegations of sexual harassment for fox ...hmm..didn't end well, but Kasowitz made some $$$$$)

 

dude delusional...looked seriously doped up at his press conference today...even the doctors are making $$$$

jobs jobs jobs!!!! And liquor stores!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/trump-comey-takeaways.html

 

Definitely looks like a winner to me.

 

I think Ivan-kah had him on some heady meds today. 

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9 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

And in real news today VJ member Mr&Mrs G. became a Gold Member.

 

He is proud to accept this Gold award on behalf of all legal applicants wishing to enter the USA :rofl:

Congrats!!! I'm an elder member!!!

hey, so Comey is gonna become a country western singer now he's quit the FBI.

his first single : Lordy, I hope there's some tapes!

 

pm me if you want a pirate copy;)

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2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Definitely looks like a winner to me.

 

I think Ivan-kah had him on some heady meds today. 

Yep, Donnie Jr doing the punching for the moment... An early victory for Kasowitz in that he's managed to stop Donnie from tweeting...for now;)

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

So now Comey is a dedicated public servant.  Back in October the Left want to string him up for his political actions that may have contributed to Hillary losing.  The pendulum swings back and forth.

Again with the left....show me a posting where dissed the man.  And the public servants trump denegrated...it was all public servants.  But they get it...approval with active military less than 45%.  The entire country is going to be sooo happy when this clown leaves

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