Three burglars enter home, son shoots them all dead with AR-15 assault rifle

[8bit_Theatre 64]

16 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Not much use in a safe if you need to defend yourself, the one thing a .223 does not have is stopping power, benefit from a Military perspective is that you can carry lots of them. AR 15 would be illegal to hunt anything much bigger than a rabbit in my State for that very reason.

 

I did have a shot at a Bull Elk last year but it was a very long way away and I had not thought of the hold I would need that far out, I did check the stats later and it would still have had the needed energy if you had hit the right spot, but that was a .308.

 

I second the hollow point comments, you want something that will have enough energy (mass x velocity) and make a big enough hole and not just go through bits not important.

I mean again - the AR15 isn't defined by a single caliber. You could use 9mm, 6.5 grendal, 300 blackout etc. Even .22lr

 

 

[bcking 3,157]

27 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Not much use in a safe if you need to defend yourself

That is true. One of the reasons (there are several) that I wouldn't own one for self defense. If I ever did own one it would be for hunting and it would be in a safe, with the ammunition in a separate lock box. A small part of me is interested in that, but it's pretty low on my list.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, bcking said:

Oh gotcha. I imagined they were all kept in one safe so you are like opening an arsenal and deciding on a weapon.

 

So you keep them all in different places? All under locks? Lots of gun safes, unless you don't take the proper precautions.

Under the pillow, in the night stand, in the John,  by the doors,  etc.  I don't need any precautions,  no kids in the house 

[spookyturtle 9,466]

1 hour ago, 8bit_Theatre said:

I mean again - the AR15 isn't defined by a single caliber. You could use 9mm, 6.5 grendal, 300 blackout etc. Even .22lr

 

 

THE AR15 is a .223. All others are wannabes. 

[Boiler 47,487]

4 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

THE AR15 is a .223. All others are wannabes. 

There are various clones and variants with more interesting choices.

[OriZ 3,165]

4 hours ago, bcking said:

I could PM your my a photo of my medical school diploma, or my board certification, or my ID with the AAP if you'd like? Not sure how I would benefit from lying about what I do here. I have nothing to hide and I quite frequently admit when I'm not an expert in an area. Alternatively, you'd like we can talk about chronic lung disease, retinopathy of prematurity, or any number of things I deal with on a daily basis.

 

I'm looking for a discussion on the lethality of two different weapons. That discussion, if handled effectively, would include issues including mass of the ammo, shape of the ammo, velocity of the rounds, rate of fire, recoil, distance, location of entry wound. The responses I got only mentioned bullet size, so now I'm bringing up that it is far more complicated than that.

Yes! I wanna talk about retinopathy!

 

3 hours ago, bcking said:

*Boredom

 

My patients are babies so I couldn't say if they are bored or not. They mostly sleep or eat.

 

(You're continuing to deflect from the actual content)

 

Honestly I try to be friendly and have good conversations with you. However the way you respond to me and others tends to be focused very much on the negative. You avoid providing actual content, and instead just make short "one liners" to avoid responding with objective information. I will gladly admit when I'm wrong, as I've done so before on here (Oriz should be able to attest to that). However I do generally like to discuss issues more in depth and not take any one person's word for anything. I also tend to play "devil's advocate" because, unfortunately, I do like to argue. I admitted I know nothing about firearms themselves, I do know a little about GSW's but I'm not a surgeon and I can count on one hand the number of cases I was involved in during med school (La Jolla also wasn't a very popular spot for GSW's, I remember when I interviewed at UCLA...I would have gotten a lot more first hand experience there). I brought up my opinion that a AR-15 would be easier to kill for a number of reasons (bullet velocity, penetration, rate of fire, less recoil, larger clip). If you'd like to argue otherwise please provide more than just "oh wow I can't even respond". 

You're like a breath of fresh air as far as the left goes. Usually I find myself in the same positions as you(just with the sides flipped) - make a good argument, and no one can refute it so they either ignore my post all together whining like little girls that it is too long, or they deflect, or whatever. Your input was sorely missing from the min wage thread.

[bcking 3,157]

4 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Yes! I wanna talk about retinopathy!

 

You're like a breath of fresh air as far as the left goes. Usually I find myself in the same positions as you(just with the sides flipped) - make a good argument, and no one can refute it so they either ignore my post all together whining like little girls that it is too long, or they deflect, or whatever. Your input was sorely missing from the min wage thread.

That may have been during a "mandatory break" i was given about a week ago?

 

Honestly I don't want to talk about ROP. Got into an argument about it and 21% FiO2 flow awhile back. Still annoys me.

[bcking 3,157]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Under the pillow, in the night stand, in the John,  by the doors,  etc.  I don't need any precautions,  no kids in the house 

In the John? 

 

I guess just in case a Tyrion shows up with a crossbow?

[OriZ 3,165]

2 minutes ago, bcking said:

That may have been during a "mandatory break" i was given about a week ago?

 

Honestly I don't want to talk about ROP. Got into an argument about it and 21% FiO2 flow awhile back. Still annoys me.

Man, got me all excited for nothing.

 

Nah it's like a 3-4 day old thread I think.

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, bcking said:

That may have been during a "mandatory break" i was given about a week ago?

 

Honestly I don't want to talk about ROP. Got into an argument about it and 21% FiO2 flow awhile back. Still annoys me.

You know I am rarely serious and don't like to type, but what if I tried to refute your position on 21% fi top. With some googled up something another. Would not you be like.  Yawn 

[bcking 3,157]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

You know I am rarely serious and don't like to type, but what if I tried to refute your position on 21% fi top. With some googled up something another. Would not you be like.  Yawn 

Sorry English please? Would not I be like "yawn"?

 

It's just that we had an argument about whether 21% on a blender was really 21%. He went into some craziness about whether or not the blenders "are even tested?". He figured if they were sating 100% on 21% we were still doing damage. It was annoying.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

In the John? 

 

I guess just in case a Tyrion shows up with a crossbow?

2 sentences and a game of thrones reference. Excellent. 

 

P.s. I don't really have a gun in the John and I do own a safe 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

5 minutes ago, bcking said:

Sorry English please? Would not I be like "yawn"?

 

It's just that we had an argument about whether 21% on a blender was really 21%. He went into some craziness about whether or not the blenders "are even tested?". He figured if they were sating 100% on 21% we were still doing damage. It was annoying.

Every fool knows blenders are tested  21% on mine is for mixing. 100% is for frappe 

Would you not, be like,  Yawn!.

Is that better.

[bcking 3,157]

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Every fool knows blenders are tested  21% on mine is for mixing. 100% is for frappe 

Would you not, be like,  Yawn!.

Is that better.

100% for Frappe lol

 

I did sort of "Yawn" at the guy. My response was "I'm pretty sure the hospital wouldn't take a cardboard box, write "blender" on it in permanent ink and place it at the bedside" and walked away. Ophtho's are so....shortsighted (pun intended! muhahahaha)

[TBoneTX 47,519]

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