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Hi All,

This is for my sister-in-law who needs to travel to US with my mother-in-law for 2 weeks. She just completed her graduation, is unemployed and unmarried.
I understand this profile has more rejection chances. Can anyone suggest or share their experience like what factors or documentation can improve approval chances ?. Or what exactly she can show to prove strong ties back home

Should I sponsor her or my wife ?. Should we show that she has money in her back in India to support her trip or should we give affidavit of support ?
Actually we had a baby and they want to come to see him. Should we just say its a fun trip or family ceremony etc ?

Any advice, I would really appreciate

Thanks
Sid

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Hi All,

This is for my sister-in-law who needs to travel to US with my mother-in-law for 2 weeks. She just completed her graduation (is this high school or college?), is unemployed and unmarried.

I understand this profile has more rejection chances. Can anyone suggest or share their experience like what factors or documentation can improve approval chances ?. Or what exactly she can show to prove strong ties back home Has she applied for college? Does she have any job offers?

Should I sponsor her or my wife ?. There is no such thing as "sponsoring a tourist". It is up to your sister to show that she can support herself. Every visa applicant is treated as a possible immigrant. With few ties to her home country and with you absorbing all the costs, it can look like she will just not leave the country and stay with you. Should we show that she has money in her back in India to support her trip or should we give affidavit of support (not a thing)?

Actually we had a baby and they want to come to see him. Should we just say its a fun trip or family ceremony etc ? It would be a trip for pleasure. Do not make up a "family ceremony" or any other scenario to make the trip sound more official/important.

Any advice, I would really appreciate

Thanks

Sid

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First of all, there is NO sponsorship for a visitor visa, EVER. No letter, no affidavit of support, nothing. I am not sure where or why people think this is the case. You sister in law must apply and be approved on her own merits, and her merits alone. there is nothing you can say or do to change that fact. The chances of her getting a visitor visa with literally no ties to home are zero. Also, the way USCIS looks at it, her having relatives that live in the US work against her as she would be more inclined to stay in the US and not leave as opposed to going home where she has no ties. Oh, and to top it off India is a very high fraud country, that alone is enough to get her denied. There is nothing stopping her from applying,but don't be surprised when the answer is no.

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She could see the baby via skype or you can take a trip to India....

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Is she formally engaged?

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1. Should I sponsor her or my wife

2. Should we show that she has money in her back in India to support her trip or should we give affidavit of support ?

3. Should we just say its a fun trip or family ceremony etc ?

1. There is no such thing as sponsorship for a tourist visa. They don't care whether she's visiting family or Disneyland, as long as she's visiting.

2. There is no such thing as an affidavit of support for a tourist visa. Her bank statements will be fine as long as she can reasonably afford the trip she's planning.

3. Either works. Just say it's a trip to visit family. Again, they don't care why she going, they care that she'll be leaving.

As far as evidence to show ties to her country. Think about it from a 3rd party perspective. If a person you didn't know from India visited the U.S. - What sort of documentation would give you confidence that he/she was planning to return to India after the trip? Car ownership? Rental agreement? Close family? A dog? A planned future trip to Europe leaving out of Bombay? Etc.

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Should we just say its a fun trip or family ceremony etc ?

There's only one answer and that is you say whatever is the TRUTH!

If she's coming to see family, that's what you say.

If she's coming to do touristy stuff, that's what you say.

If she's coming to take part in a family celebration/ceremony for the new baby, that's what you say.

If it's a mixture of all of the above then that's what you say.

Don't try to be ever giving answers that you think is what the CO wants to hear if it's not the truth.

Lying has very bad consequences.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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There's only one answer and that is you say whatever is the TRUTH!

If she's coming to see family, that's what you say.

If she's coming to do touristy stuff, that's what you say.

If she's coming to take part in a family celebration/ceremony for the new baby, that's what you say.

If it's a mixture of all of the above then that's what you say.

Don't try to be ever giving answers that you think is what the CO wants to hear if it's not the truth.

Lying has very bad consequences.

I've noticed, generally speaking, that India B2 applicants tend to go for whatever 'improves approval chances' as OP stated, or whatever 'limits denial chances". So, bending the circumstances to suit those approval chances apparently tends to be an option for those applying.

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First of all, there is NO sponsorship for a visitor visa, EVER. No letter, no affidavit of support, nothing. I am not sure where or why people think this is the case. You sister in law must apply and be approved on her own merits, and her merits alone. there is nothing you can say or do to change that fact. The chances of her getting a visitor visa with literally no ties to home are zero. Also, the way USCIS looks at it, her having relatives that live in the US work against her as she would be more inclined to stay in the US and not leave as opposed to going home where she has no ties. Oh, and to top it off India is a very high fraud country, that alone is enough to get her denied. There is nothing stopping her from applying,but don't be surprised when the answer is no.

> Oh, and to top it off India is a very high fraud country

Source? Based on 2015 data, it appears the overstay rate of B1/B2 visitors from India is less than the average overstay rate.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/16-0029%20FY%2015%20CBP%20Entry%20and%20Exit%20Overstay%20Report%20FINAL%2001.19.16.pdf

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> Oh, and to top it off India is a very high fraud country

Source? Based on 2015 data, it appears the overstay rate of B1/B2 visitors from India is less than the average overstay rate.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/16-0029%20FY%2015%20CBP%20Entry%20and%20Exit%20Overstay%20Report%20FINAL%2001.19.16.pdf

Majority of India b1\b2 overstays either convert to student (F) or work (H) visas, or marry to AOS.

OP's sister in law, being young, unemployed, and unmarried, could potentially be viewed by an embassy CO as one of the above.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

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Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

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Majority of India b1\b2 overstays either convert to student (F) or work (H) visas, or marry to AOS.

OP's sister in law, being young, unemployed, and unmarried, could potentially be viewed by an embassy CO as one of the above.

> Majority of India b1\b2 overstays either convert to student or work (H) visas, or marry to AOS.

- The number of overstays is less than the average.
- CoS is not fraud.
- Do you have any source to back this claim up?
Most young, unemployed and unmarried applicants will have difficulty proving non-immigrant intent. That has nothing to do with India.
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> Majority of India b1\b2 overstays either convert to student or work (H) visas, or marry to AOS.

- The number of overstays is less than the average.

- CoS is not fraud.

- Do you have any source to back this claim up?

Most young, unemployed and unmarried applicants will have difficulty proving non-immigrant intent. That has nothing to do with India.

Why are you making this a federal case???

Whats your point???

People are answering the OP.

You are hijacking the thread.

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Massive variance of potential visitors and you are looking at an average.

Do senior executives of multi national IT companies have difficulty visiting, probably not

However we are not talking about that here so refusal rates are meaningless.

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> Majority of India b1\b2 overstays either convert to student or work (H) visas, or marry to AOS.

- The number of overstays is less than the average.
- CoS is not fraud.
- Do you have any source to back this claim up?
Most young, unemployed and unmarried applicants will have difficulty proving non-immigrant intent. That has nothing to do with India.

Troll?

Post was to respond to the OP.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

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