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B2 for my retiree and widower father to come see me becoming an american

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Hello all,

i have a firm belief that B2 for nationals of what US consider high fraud countries is by pure fluke. i personally know several examples of people with weak/fraudulent cases who have gotten B2 and on the other hand genuine applicants having been denied because of the standard 214B. I am looking to find here some similar cases to mine if there are any. please give it a read - i will take my oath to be naturalized as a US citizen next month on July 15. i would like my father who is a retiree and a widower to come join me here for this special day. he is a national of high fraudulent country as per USCIS. never traveled outside the country, never applied for any visa. but have had a great professional career and have plenty of fixed and liquid assets. Can someone share any successful B2 visa experience for a case like this ? thanks for reading.

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No personal experience. The fact that he is from a high fraud country, widower, no previous travel coupled with the fact that you are becoming a USC therefore could "keep him" (file AOS for him while he is here), does not bode well for his application.

That said, what does he have to lose? Only the visa application fee...

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No personal experience. The fact that he is from a high fraud country, widower, no previous travel coupled with the fact that you are becoming a USC therefore could "keep him" (file AOS for him while he is here), does not bode well for his application.

That said, what does he have to lose? Only the visa application fee...

I will have him permanently migrate here but the process is 12 to 24 months long. i will like to try for a B2 for him before that.Also, Can't file AOS while my father is not on the US soil. thank you for replying man.

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What I believe EM is saying is that the CO may see your father's potential immigrant intent based on the fact that he wants to see you become a USC and then he can stay in the US while you file for his adjustment of status.

That IS a possibility so your father will have to overcome that.

Good luck

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What I believe EM is saying is that the CO may see your father's potential immigrant intent based on the fact that he wants to see you become a USC and then he can stay in the US while you file for his adjustment of status.

That IS a possibility so your father will have to overcome that.

Good luck

i am well aware and understand this. i was asking for a similar or a close enough case ? here is another negative. i do not have any siblings. the only ties my father is left with are his properties in the country. my father has no intent to migrate but intent here do not matter. it will depend upon the VO's judgement. thank you for your comment though

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i am well aware and understand this. i was asking for a similar or a close enough case ? here is another negative. i do not have any siblings. the only ties my father is left with are his properties in the country. my father has no intent to migrate but intent here do not matter. it will depend upon the VO's judgement. thank you for your comment though

Contradictory. You just said in the preceding post that you want your father to immigrate here but due to the lengthy period of adjudication, you want to have him visit first. Now you say, he has no intent on immigrating here. That contradiction alone will not fly in front of a VO and will get him denied. Get your story straight.

You talk you teach, you listen you learn

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Get your story straight.

The common tactic is to get the B2 tourist visa first, then enter USA, file for AOS, since the process of waiting outside US is too long ;)

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

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Contradictory. You just said in the preceding post that you want your father to immigrate here but due to the lengthy period of adjudication, you want to have him visit first. Now you say, he has no intent on immigrating here. That contradiction alone will not fly in front of a VO and will get him denied. Get your story straight.

what are you talking about ? the story is clear.i want/ prefer him to immigrate but i know he has no plans of doing it. that is why i would like to have a B2 for him. i will sponsor my father for a GC in any case if does not get a B2.

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The common tactic is to get the B2 tourist visa first, then enter USA, file for AOS, since the process of waiting outside US is too long ;)

a lot out there knows this. thread is not to comment on my possible intentions but people who have been in similar scenario. that is why my question is very specific and detailed.

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You adjusted AOS from B2 visa.

What will make the CO think that your father will NOT do the same thing as you did before? :whistle:

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

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You adjusted AOS from B2 visa.

What will make the CO think that your father will NOT do the same thing as you did before? :whistle:

this is irrelevant to my question. it is like you are a criminal because your father or child was . my case was completely different. i am canadian expat and my father is not. do you get the difference ?

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this is irrelevant to my question. it is like you are a criminal because your father or child was . my case was completely different. i am canadian expat and my father is not. do you get the difference ?

Not trying to judge you but your being a Canadian expat does not preclude you in anyway from the the scrutiny of AOSing under a B1/B2 visa (Not that it's a bad thing..There are a lot of genuine reasons for doing that and you may have a valid reason for it). A VO will however not care about whatever reasons you had to adjust under a B1/B2 and will most likely assume (and rightly so) that your dad is intending to do same.

You talk you teach, you listen you learn

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... i will sponsor my father for a GC in any case if does not get a B2.

I've seen this in some posts in different forums, primarily geared towards Indians.

Oftentimes someone's parent(s) don't get a B2 visa; after multiple denials, they end up petitioning them for a GC. After one or two visits, parents realize they prefer living in their home country.. and try for reentry permits or give up green cards. The responsibilities that come with obtaining and maintaining a GC are far greater than merely holding a B2.

As you posted earlier.. do YOU get the difference?

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I've seen this in some posts in different forums, primarily geared towards Indians.

Oftentimes someone's parent(s) don't get a B2 visa; after multiple denials, they end up petitioning them for a GC. After one or two visits, parents realize they prefer living in their home country.. and try for reentry permits or give up green cards. The responsibilities that come with obtaining and maintaining a GC are far greater than merely holding a B2.

As you posted earlier.. do YOU get the difference?

i am aware of this

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