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My fiance and I use whatsapp voice calls since it is free as long as you are connected to wifi. Has anyone been successful in obtaining a k1 visa with "whatsapp calling" as your prime means of communication evidence? Not sure if Lagos requires actual phone bill records that document your calls to each other. Each whatsapp call record shows my fiance's number, the name I have saved for him, the date, time and duration of call. I screenshoted each record. Thanks!

Ryan H Grand Master

Ryan H   3,812

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Moved from Process & Procedures to Progress Reports.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

baron555 Veteran

baron555   934

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My fiance and I use whatsapp voice calls since it is free as long as you are connected to wifi. Has anyone been successful in obtaining a k1 visa with "whatsapp calling" as your prime means of communication evidence? Not sure if Lagos requires actual phone bill records that document your calls to each other. Each whatsapp call record shows my fiance's number, the name I have saved for him, the date, time and duration of call. I screenshoted each record. Thanks!

OK, so you have records that you two had a conversation. Can you print out exactly what you talked about? I think not.

You have to prove to a total stranger, the Embassy CO, that you have a legitimate relationship and are not trying to circumvent immigration laws or commit visa fraud.

How can you prove this without showing evidence of what you talked about?

Most relationships follow a normal evolution, IMO, there is the getting to know you stage, talk of more serious nature, more intimate or lovey-dovey talk (couples planning to get married to each other do that), talk about the visa process, talk about marriage, talk about life in the US, talk of the move to the US, planning for life in the US, etc.

All your evidences, when viewed together, should show snippets of each stage and should tell the story.

Your Embassy is very hard on K-1s and front-loading with relationship evidence should be done.

Start using other mediums for communication where you can show what you talk about. Emails are great.

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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Hi Baron555:

I was referring to the whatsapp call logs as "evidence of talking" component of communication. In addition to that, I also provided snippets of 1 year worth of chat conversations, a few emails and handwritten letters, chats between my mom and fiance, engagement ring receipt, pictures of my 1st visit (including pics with each other's family), and images of gifts we exchanged. Does this sound sufficient? Thanks!

OK, so you have records that you two had a conversation. Can you print out exactly what you talked about? I think not.

You have to prove to a total stranger, the Embassy CO, that you have a legitimate relationship and are not trying to circumvent immigration laws or commit visa fraud.

How can you prove this without showing evidence of what you talked about?

Most relationships follow a normal evolution, IMO, there is the getting to know you stage, talk of more serious nature, more intimate or lovey-dovey talk (couples planning to get married to each other do that), talk about the visa process, talk about marriage, talk about life in the US, talk of the move to the US, planning for life in the US, etc.

All your evidences, when viewed together, should show snippets of each stage and should tell the story.

Your Embassy is very hard on K-1s and front-loading with relationship evidence should be done.

Start using other mediums for communication where you can show what you talk about. Emails are great.

baron555 Veteran

baron555   934

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Hi Baron555:

I was referring to the whatsapp call logs as "evidence of talking" component of communication. In addition to that, I also provided snippets of 1 year worth of chat conversations, a few emails and handwritten letters, chats between my mom and fiance, engagement ring receipt, pictures of my 1st visit (including pics with each other's family), and images of gifts we exchanged. Does this sound sufficient? Thanks!

Then yes. We video Skyped all the time and I sent in logs for those chats. So about the same but what I did also include was screenshots of the video screen, especially showing the little one playing in the background.

Do read up on the regional forum for your Embassy since it is a hard one for K-1s.

Make sure your emails and letters detail some of the evolution of your relationship as I suggested. I believe it helps.

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Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

baron555 Veteran

baron555   934

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Ok, thanks! So back to my original question :) . Does whatsapp call logs suffice as a substitute for phone bill logs?

Yes I'd say so.

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

LionessDeon Experienced

LionessDeon   2,060

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Ok, thanks! So back to my original question :) . Does whatsapp call logs suffice as a substitute for phone bill logs?

Well if that's all u got then that's what u got right? Can't produce anything different now so go with it. Be sure to send in other evidences as well FB, other chats, Skype, etc

Good Luck!

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Thanks. I did that but the transcript turned out to be over 400 pages. So instead I just did screenshots of daily convos from the whatsapp platform. About one per week. Each screenshot shows the date (but not the year; not sure why whatsapp on I-phone doesn't show year) Hoping that works.

Go to your messages, click on their name at the top, go to 'email chat'

You can email the entire chat history (if you actually message) and print it out for the interview :)

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I used whatsapp screen shots as a PART of my evidence package. I also used actual photos of us together on several occasions. I also used facebook screen shots, we have tagged each other multiple times saying "miss you" etc. I also used skype screen shots between us. After all that we were approved. Maybe I went overboard, but I wanted to make sure they knew we were legit.

blessing247 Contributor

blessing247   0

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Hi! What else do you suggest in addition to whatsapp call logs? Like I stated earlier,I also included screenshots of our skype video call logs.

once u screen grabbed it, and its clear at print out. then it will be a good evidence as well.. but it cannot be your only evidence of communication on voice calls.. its not convincing enough... good luck

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My fiance and I use whatsapp voice calls since it is free as long as you are connected to wifi. Has anyone been successful in obtaining a k1 visa with "whatsapp calling" as your prime means of communication evidence? Not sure if Lagos requires actual phone bill records that document your calls to each other. Each whatsapp call record shows my fiance's number, the name I have saved for him, the date, time and duration of call. I screenshoted each record. Thanks!

Are you able to save the whatsapp call log ?? if so how are you doing it

blessing247 Contributor

blessing247   0

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Yes, you go to recent calls and it shows the last 3 months of call history. You can click on each individual item and it will show the call details. Since they disappear every 3 months, I screenshot each call daily and save it to my phone. In my phone's photo gallery I've created an album for each month of call history.

Are you able to save the whatsapp call log ?? if so how are you doing it

 
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