Non-immigrant visa for pending immigrants

[Boiler 43,622]

Lots of things in the US make no sense. It is the way the system works.

Somebody I know trained to be an AC Navigator. So he printed the documents off, 8000 pages.

He said you could see how it started off and how it had been amended to suit the needs of special interest groups.

Still not quite sure what you are seeking to achieve. Faster processing? Obviously if all this took a month then all the other issues go away.

[HFM181818 748]

Faster processing can only happen if the number of rubber-stamping 'adjudicators' (within USCIS) is quintupled...and that would, not surprisingly, quintuple the cost of filing said petition.

As to the 'give me a new visa because I messed up the last one [or privilege]..without penalty?

And I am afraid I don't buy the one month 'accidental' overstay....anyone with even an average intellect can remember for how long they were admitted...and a month doesn't just drift by unnoticed....but then, as I have so often heard or read, it's never the fault of the overstayer, but somehow connected to our broken immigration system....huh?

[gryphon 20]

Lots of things in the US make no sense. It is the way the system works.

Somebody I know trained to be an AC Navigator. So he printed the documents off, 8000 pages.

He said you could see how it started off and how it had been amended to suit the needs of special interest groups.

Still not quite sure what you are seeking to achieve. Faster processing? Obviously if all this took a month then all the other issues go away.

So let's not try to fix anything because that's the way it's done now?

Directly from the petition: " I'm not asking for anyone's permanent residence to be fast tracked,"

"I created this petition to call upon President Obama to issue an Executive Order to the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Patrol, allowing temporary reprieve, in the form of non-immigrant visitor visas, to the immediate family members of US Citizens who are currently petitioning to become permanent residents. These visas should be similar to those allowed under the Visa Waiver Plan, which do not allow for a change of status during the visit."

Which additional elements should be clarified?

Faster processing can only happen if the number of rubber-stamping 'adjudicators' (within USCIS) is quintupled...and that would, not surprisingly, quintuple the cost of filing said petition.

As to the 'give me a new visa because I messed up the last one [or privilege]..without penalty?

And I am afraid I don't buy the one month 'accidental' overstay....anyone with even an average intellect can remember for how long they were admitted...and a month doesn't just drift by unnoticed....but then, as I have so often heard or read, it's never the fault of the overstayer, but somehow connected to our broken immigration system....huh?

Wow, uhm, nevermind I guess. Please close this thread. It appears that even when I say things, people aren't reading them and I'm encountering more resistance from people who are going/have gone through the immigration process than from USCIS.

My mistake.

Edited December 23, 2015 by gryphon

[TBoneTX 43,290]

The poster was continuing part of the discussion and was adding items for thought.

He's a retired consular officer who spent considerable time in NIV work.

Edited December 23, 2015 by TBoneTX

[HFM181818 748]

...who has heard the stories by the carload. Especially why a new visa (or privilege) should be given to someone who could not manage to live up to the terms of the first one, and all without any penalty? Even an overdue library book generates a fine.

The NIVs that are subject to 214b are not designed for the holder to live and work in the US (students can do a bit of both - we are talking specifically about tourist visas).

Section 214b is not going to be suspended anytime soon, and currently, that is the bar that an applicant for a B2 visa must get over....convincing a CO that he or she will depart the US when they said and not engage in activities that would require a different visa class.

Just because somebody is unhappy with the current wait times is not a reason to suspend that law....because if it did, imagine how many marriages would take place the day after, with all of the those foreign spouses champing at the bit to enter the US on some 'new and improved' visa waiver program, only to disappear into the sunset....our military doesn't have enough C-5 Galaxy transport planes to carry all of those folks....

Some foreign spouses who already have a valid B2 visa sometimes manage to visit; of those who do, about 97% of them have the ever popular mind change while collecting their luggage....which then leads to an erosion of trust for those applying for a B2 visa while the CR1 paper processing is underway. For people who have had a traveling to the US privilege, then violated that trust, it should not come as a great surprise that they have their next tourist visa application denied, because they would have lost their credibility - which is the most important asset an applicant can have.

Finally, the idea that a month rolled by without anyone paying attention to the authorized admission time is 'just one of those things that happen' (or some equally dismissive opinion) is just not believable. In today's age of calendar apps or just sticky notes on a frig, it is more than difficult to accept that particular excuse, so that some sympathetic CO (who I hope does not exist) will dole out a new privilege just to watch it get abused (statistically).

Trust ..... hard to earn....nearly impossible to regain once lost.

[Ontarkie 13,925]

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