Oregon allowing 15-year-olds to get state-subsidized sex-change operations

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

So tell me.

Let's say we have a 15 year old girl with bipolar. Her parents are scientologists and do not believe in psychiatric medicines.

Should her parents have the right to prevent her from seeking treatment?

Speaking as someone who has several disorders (faulty connective tissue) that required a great deal of treatment in my teenage years and some of which was denied me due to my parents' decisions, it's impossible to afford the time off work, even with 'free' treatment, in adulthood to have those things dealt with. Sexual reassignment takes months of recovery time. When is an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, 21 year old supposed to find money, in today's economy, to take the time off?

Good point.. I think most people would be on board for ignoring a parents demand to not give treatment for someone who say has cancer - so the parents right to decide is not 100%.

Everybody says "little girls" I think the bulk of these are actually going to be "little boys" - I know exactly one man that used to be a woman, I've met many women who used to be men.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Good point.. I think most people would be on board for ignoring a parents demand to not give treatment for someone who say has cancer - so the parents right to decide is not 100%.

Everybody says "little girls" I think the bulk of these are actually going to be "little boys" - I know exactly one man that used to be a woman, I've met many women who used to be men.

I need to get out more.

[Jacque67 7,328]

I need to get out more.

Don't bother. Btdt;)

[VOL 425]

Speaking as someone who has several disorders (

Do you have any mental Disorders? Or they all physical?

[Jacque67 7,328]

Do you have any mental Disorders? Or they all physical?

Lol. You never fail!

[VOL 425]

[Teddy B 17,251]

I need to get out more.

Well, if you'd back away from the sheep for just one minute, you'd be able to see that there's a whole other world out there.

[Jacque67 7,328]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETN9eNOA6vw

No idea what that's about but after a bottle of wine, it rocks;)

[Jacque67 7,328]

Wonderful for a child who is navigating puberty (which is messy for transgendered children and can be seriously traumatic) and dating and would like to be healed from a surgery that takes weeks or even months to recover from before college.

How many people have you known who have gone through a sex change? Because I've known several, all over the world, and not a single doctor--even the weird Serbian doctors one of my friends ended up going to for financial reasons--let a person go through it without extensive screening to make sure this was what the person wanted. Sometimes months of it. All of them needed to be signed off on by their own psychologist AND a psychologist of the doctor's choosing.

It's not a choice anyone takes lightly, not the doctors and not the patients. It may not 'fix' dysphoria, but it normalizes social function. That's honestly what nearly all of the people I've known have been going for, not a fix of their dysphoria. Dysphoria is a lifelong battle, but normalizing social function takes away some of the triggers for dysphoric episodes, which makes a huge difference in quality of life.

Umm. The doctors are for the most part only concerned about lawsuits-hence the "extensive questioning ."

No way should a 15 year old get state sub-subsidized sex change ops.

(Won't bother giving my credentials)

[CarlosAndSveta 808]

No idea what that's about but after a bottle of wine, it rocks;)

Here you go.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Here you go.

Cheers. Edited July 10, 2015 by Jacque67

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Do you have any mental Disorders? Or they all physical?

All physical, my friend. All physical. I'm actually written up in medical texts for some of them due to my age of onset (for one of the tendon specific problems that I have, I am one of two people in recorded medical history to have that problem happen in that lifestage--the other is my mother) and everything else about my case. My wife calls me a medically special snowflake. She's very proud.

[GaryC 7]

Decisions like this should be reserved for when the child is an adult. This way they can solely make this decision on their own and it won't be mom and dad's fault when they decide later on they didn't like the decision they made.

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Gender identity is a real thing but it requires an adult mind to choose what to do since it is not easly reversed. I feel bad for a child going through this but to let a 15 year old make this decision is very wrong. I would support them exploring dressing and identifying with the gender they feel like they are but to make the step of surgury should be delayed until adulthood.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I'd agree if it were something a person would decide upon casually, but I don't think this is the case here. One can't have SRS without consulting a psychologist and other qualified professionals. I don't think it's something a 15-yo can do alone either, which means one needs the support of a family to undergo what I believe is something at once traumatic and freeing.

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Gender identity is a real thing but it requires an adult mind to choose what to do since it is not easly reversed. I feel bad for a child going through this but to let a 15 year old make this decision is very wrong. I would support them exploring dressing and identifying with the gender they feel like they are but to make the step of surgury should be delayed until adulthood.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

OMG I agree with GaryC! I can't believe juveniles would be given the option without either parental consent or simply made to wait until they become adults. This is not a decision that juveniles should be free to make while they are growing up. There's a lot of consequences which juveniles are not ready to grasp. It is enough to allow them to self identify and explore the gender they are not but identify with during adolescence.