Guns in America: For every criminal killed in self-defense, 34 innocent people die

[GaryC 7]

The endless threads on guns in America do no good at all. What is being forgotten is that the bill of rights gives all Americans the right to own firearms. The SCOTUS has upheld that right and it is the law of the land. Everyone just needs to face that fact. It is one of the facets of living in the USA. I really doubt that the Constitution will ever be changed so if someone wants to live in the USA they need to deal with it and stop b!tching. You are just wasting your time and energy.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Did you vote for Obama? (2nd time I have asked you this question).

I just don't understand how a male in the USA could have your mentality regarding guns.

I grew up hunting and fishing, I was given a 12 gauge shotgun as my birthday present, it was a big deal for me, It was like becoming a man and going from hunting with a BB gun hunting with a real gun.

I don't think my voting record is important to this discussion but I did indeed vote for Obama twice. Had the Republicans put up a half decent alternative I would have considered a vote for him or her. But alas they did not.

Back to topic. I fail to understand what makes gun owners so sensitive when it comes to dispensing with their fantasies that they and their peacemaker are all that stands between a world of danger and the world of the good. That having a gun in the home is the only responsible thing to do.

That occasionally a gun owner does thwart a bad actor only feeds the fantasy. The problem being far more harm than good happens daily and that is an inconvenient fact.

I don't want the government to go forth and take those precious guns away. I just don't want the gun lobby fantasy to encourage more proliferation of guns based on the false premise that guns make people safer. It appears that gun owners aren't satisfied with merely owning and possessing their guns, but they also have a strange need to buy into the delusion guns make them safer, but worse a complete compulsion to insist that everyone believe that.

Own a gun. It doesn't make you safer. You are free to do it. 'Merka!

The endless threads on guns in America do no good at all. What is being forgotten is that the bill of rights gives all Americans the right to own firearms. The SCOTUS has upheld that right and it is the law of the land. Everyone just needs to face that fact. It is one of the facets of living in the USA. I really doubt that the Constitution will ever be changed so if someone wants to live in the USA they need to deal with it and stop b!tching. You are just wasting your time and energy.

'Merka!

[GaryC 7]

'Merka!

Yes it is. Deal with it.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Why on earth would I need to know his circumstances? Increased risk is simply that, increased risk.

Read this slowly:

You might be happy to take the risk having a gun in the home poses. But the reality is that a home with a gun is less safe. Quite frankly it's a simple thing to understand.

If you are taking the risk don't do so because you believe that you are likely to find yourself in a John Wayne situation where you and your trusty peacemaker will be saving the day. That's fantasy.

My gun my choice

[VOL 425]

I don't want the government to go forth and take those precious guns away. I just don't want the gun lobby fantasy to encourage more proliferation of guns based on the false premise that guns make people safer. It appears that gun owners aren't satisfied with merely owning and possessing their guns, but they also have a strange need to buy into the delusion guns make them safer, but worse a complete compulsion to insist that everyone believe that.

Own a gun. It doesn't make you safer. You are free to do it. 'Merka!

'Merka!

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."

George Washington

First President of the United States

[Boiler 43,464]

Some people prefer guns, some prefer whistles, everybody should be free to make their own choice.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."

George Washington

First President of the United States

Problem is, Washington never said these words.

In conclusion, QI hypothesizes that the quotation originated in an issue of “Hunter-Trader-Trapper” in 1926. The passage was composed by C. S. Wheatley and not by George Washington. Unfortunately, the text was misread, and the words were incorrectly attributed to Washington. The faulty ascription was widely propagated in newspapers by the 1970s and 1980s.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/02/26/firearm/

Nice try but as usual: FAIL!

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Yes it is. Deal with it.

Another upstanding member of the reading and reality challenged? I have already made very clear that I don't support taking away your precious guns. But'feeling' safer and being actually safer are not the same thing. Deal with it.

[GaryC 7]

Another upstanding member of the reading and reality challenged? I have already made very clear that I don't support taking away your precious guns. But'feeling' safer and being actually safer are not the same thing. Deal with it.

I didn't express a opinion either way. I just pointed out that it is a moot point to begin with. I think your reading comprehention (sp?) needs some work.

[Boiler 43,464]

Abandon all logic those who enter CEHST.

Remember it is all about making some people feel good, nothing more.

[GaryC 7]

Abandon all logic those who enter CEHST.

Remember it is all about making some people feel good, nothing more.

Isn't that the truth. It is why I haven't posted in so long, it is an exersize in futility. I guess this is what I get for being bored. However, I feel good about myself and my life without the need for validation from the interwebs, so all is good.

[Boiler 43,464]

On the other hand a quick dabble in here makes you realise why things are why they are, explains all those ####### moments.

[GaryC 7]

On the other hand a quick dabble in here makes you realise why things are why they are, explains all those ####### moments.

This is true. I have gotten cynical over the last few years and I realize that all the time and energy spent on rants do no good at all. It is entertaining watching some people get worked up over something that can't be changed. It's a little like being pissed because the sky is blue and taking to the net to b!tch about it.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Ban ballet, I don't like it.

[Sousuke 1,214]

I think every car owner should have a breathalyzer in it.

I agree. (I also think we agree that what we are discussing shouldn't be a mandatory regulation btw.)