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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I wonder if there are some people who pay a friend to be a joint sponsor of their fiance(e) or spouse. I've been exploring that option with a friend of mine, since my income and assets fall short of the threshold. He was saying he might sign the I-864 it if I make it worth his while.

The way I look at, it seems similar to insurance. You pay someone else a premium because you're not able or willing to take on the risk if something goes wrong. The premium is whatever amount will be enough to compensate the insurer for the risk of a claim being filed. (A "claim" in this case would be a lawsuit for support.)

I'm a little surprised no one has tried to make a business out of this. If someone had deep enough pockets, he could be a joint sponsor for many immigrants, and charge a fee based on the estimated level of risk. For example, there aren't any reported cases (that I know of) of a Mexico national suing a financial sponsor for support, so there might be good reason to charge Mexico nationals a lower fee for joint sponsorship.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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A friend would not charge.

To answer your question it seems that it does happen. From a business perspective I can see that the risknis low but your prospective customers are by definition are poor.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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A friend would not charge.

To answer your question it seems that it does happen. From a business perspective I can see that the risknis low but your prospective customers are by definition are poor.

Theoretically, a friend wouldn't charge. But I've been getting a lot of responses of "What's in it for me?" or "It's your responsibility."

It's true, it is my responsibility. But that's why people get insurance. I also can't afford the cost of paying for someone's loss if I crash my car into them, and yet it's my responsibility to pay it. Still, I have to drive, so I meet my responsibility by getting liability insurance. I can't afford to support my spouse if she decides to leave me and sue me, so I look to insure for that risk too.

People who are rich, but prefer not to bear the risk if their spouse leaves them and sues them, might also be interested in this kind of insurance.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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People who are rich, but prefer not to bear the risk if their spouse leaves them and sues them, might also be interested in this kind of insurance.

That opens the market significantly.

From an underwriting perspective I can see a number off issues. Morale hazard, an unquantifiable exposure and a long term. You would have to charge an up front premium.

And certainly just looking at the immigration aspect a tiny market.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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The only problem with that kind of business is that each person you sponsor would increase your household size, correct?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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It would you would hope some would drop off through naturalisation.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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The only problem with that kind of business is that each person you sponsor would increase your household size, correct?

Yes. So, the number of customers that the business could have would depend on the business owner's income and assets.

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Moved from General Immigration-Related Discussion to Off Topic; topic is mainly about a business idea.

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