Cold Feet and Second Thoughts

[Elle&Kev 120]

What difference does it make????? The entire family lives together in one big house. 8 familt members.

Here is the difference. I'll post it once again for you. Read up on the law in Egypt and then put two and two together with his story he told you. I'll help you, based on the law there, it doesn't add up. That alone would have me taking a step back to see what might be going on. Right now you can't see the forest for the trees.

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The right of guardianship and custody for children (Egypt family law)

The law stipulates different criteria that determine who will care about the child. The law determines, taking into account the child’s age, which parent has the priority over others to provide their children with suitable care. Egyptian Family law takes these rules from Islam’s Sharia, recognizing that children have special needs in their lives starting from the very first day, and they have to be together with the parent who can deal with these needs

The Egyptian Family law also determines the age of guardianship and custody according to whether the child is male or female, because their needs are obviously different. According to that, the parent who can provide with the child’s needs is the one who acquires priority in doing that.

The female childcare period:

The law considers that in the first years the child must be with a woman (or women) that take care about it, because women are more able than men to do that.

The act number 25 decreed in 1929 categorizes women according to their priority of taking care of children:

“The mother, then the grandmother from the mother’s side; then the grandmother from the father’s side, then sisters, then sisters from the mother only; then sisters from the father’s side, etc. Only then will the right come to the men side”

We will talk about the ‘keeper’ as a mother, because she is the first one who takes care for babies. It must be noted, however, that the same rules which control mother’s right to care about and keep a child apply to all keepers.

The legal conditions for childcare rights :

The law requires that the keeper abides to some conditions that ensure that she or he is able to provide the child with proper care.

1. Must be with good health in mind and body.

2. Must be mentally sane and have reached the age of legal responsibility (adult).

3. Must be with good manners.

4. Must not be married to anyone who can marry the child ( Unmehram).

5. To be in the same religion not condition.

The period of childcare:

The act amending in 7 march 2005 to provisions number 25 in 1920 article number 20 says that the period of childcare starts from the first day until the age of 15. After that the judge asks the child if they want to stay with the same parent or go to the other one until 21 for males or until time of marriage for females.

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[terri_blake 10]

Basim is NOT a bad guy and I sure as heck am no angel. He has a big heart and patience. Im the scatterbrain of the relationship. Furthermore, I dont need to BUY a visa to go to Egypt. The plan ticket is paid for....

By Basim.

I am leaving on Friday and will take three days from work next week. Ive got it covered. I work for my family's business. What else would you like to know?

Lets see...

Im wearing purple drawers

I ate cereal for dinner

I went to Walmart today to buy toothpaste and tampons

My neighbor cut my grass for $20

Anything else?

I'll wait.....

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Understood. Thank you.

Here is the difference. I'll post it once again for you. Read up on the law in Egypt and then put two and two together with his story he told you. I'll help you, based on the law there, it doesn't add up. That alone would have me taking a step back to see what might be going on. Right now you can't see the forest for the trees.

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The right of guardianship and custody for children (Egypt family law)

The law stipulates different criteria that determine who will care about the child. The law determines, taking into account the childs age, which parent has the priority over others to provide their children with suitable care. Egyptian Family law takes these rules from Islams Sharia, recognizing that children have special needs in their lives starting from the very first day, and they have to be together with the parent who can deal with these needs

The Egyptian Family law also determines the age of guardianship and custody according to whether the child is male or female, because their needs are obviously different. According to that, the parent who can provide with the childs needs is the one who acquires priority in doing that.

The female childcare period:

The law considers that in the first years the child must be with a woman (or women) that take care about it, because women are more able than men to do that.

The act number 25 decreed in 1929 categorizes women according to their priority of taking care of children:

The mother, then the grandmother from the mothers side; then the grandmother from the fathers side, then sisters, then sisters from the mother only; then sisters from the fathers side, etc. Only then will the right come to the men side

We will talk about the keeper as a mother, because she is the first one who takes care for babies. It must be noted, however, that the same rules which control mothers right to care about and keep a child apply to all keepers.

The legal conditions for childcare rights :

The law requires that the keeper abides to some conditions that ensure that she or he is able to provide the child with proper care.

1. Must be with good health in mind and body.

2. Must be mentally sane and have reached the age of legal responsibility (adult).

3. Must be with good manners.

4. Must not be married to anyone who can marry the child ( Unmehram).

5. To be in the same religion not condition.

The period of childcare:

The act amending in 7 march 2005 to provisions number 25 in 1920 article number 20 says that the period of childcare starts from the first day until the age of 15. After that the judge asks the child if they want to stay with the same parent or go to the other one until 21 for males or until time of marriage for females.

wow thank you for this!

[terri_blake 10]

Okay so the girl, Halah is with the whole family but he is the one that spends most time with her. She even speaks English

Edited April 28, 2015 by terri_blake

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Edited April 28, 2015 by TBoneTX

[terri_blake 10]

I admit it. This whole thing sounds crazy but Im afraid its all true. I really feel dumb at times for letting it get to this point. I wish my life wasn't like tHis. But I chose to get involved. This is all my own doing. It is what is, I suppose.

Good night, all. Sweet dreams.

Edited April 28, 2015 by terri_blake

[Elle&Kev 120]

Okay so the girl, Halah is with the whole family but he is the one that spends most time with her. She even speaks English

You've just established that he has no legal right to take the child out of the country with this statement if he is indeed the uncle and not the real father. The question that blinks in red now is... Why would he try to get you to petition for this child unless it was his own child?

[Unidentified 2,930]

Check out the posting names on this forum, eg just on this page... you're "BrittWitt", I'm "Limey". People use nicknames, not real names, even though we don't have these embarrassing stories to tell of falling in love with someone and meeting them 2 stories apart on a hotel balcony LOL it sounded like a sketch from a comedy show. Yet OP has used a name that is supposed to appear real... that is classic trolling.

I didn't find any of it convincing, but after reading the bit where OP says "who says he's a muslim" when she'd previously said "he's a muslim" - I'm surprised anyone took any more bait from her/him (real OP could be either but my money is on a him). There is also the bit where she/he claimed to be a pentacostal christian, and then exclaimed "Jesus Christ" at the beginning of one of the posts. As a troll I'd have to give a 3 out of ten (and that is mainly for effort)

Wow, me and so many others here must be trolls then since we're using our real names lol.

[Limey 550]

Wow, me and so many others here must be trolls then since we're using our real names lol.

What surname too? Is Maria or Seve your surname?

A lot of us use our (real) first names. Don't know many who are using firstname and surname.

Of course if I was, I could always later claim it was just part of my name, to keep the trolling going a little longer.

In all honesty I find threads like this do us all a disservice - the make it look like the US visa system is open to blatant fraud, which among other things makes the public less upset when they read about us having to wait months and months at Texas Service Center to be with our real loved ones.

Doesn't anyone else find this fishy?

1) turns up to forum with ridiculous story about a meeting 2 storeys apart on a balcony.

2) introduces other obvious red flags

3) has registered on forum to seek advice about a situation that obviously looks like fraud (why else raise it on here)

4) having asked for advice, attacks anyone who gives it

Why do that - unless you're either trying to get a rise from people (trolling) or attempting to cast the US immigration system in a bad light (some kind of anti-immigrant political motive).

I can't wait for the next installment, I'm expecting the story to go up a notch or two. Does anyone else expect the proposed trip to go swimmingly and it all to end happily ever after?

Edited April 28, 2015 by Limey

[Unidentified 2,930]

What surname too? Is Maria or Seve your surname?

I think my name and my signature makes it pretty clear neither is a surname. What would it matter if she had used both her first and surname? I do on parts of the internet. As long as you don't provide a bunch of personal info so that people can still your identity there's nothing wrong with it. It makes neither of us a troll.

[Limey 550]

I think my name and my signature makes it pretty clear neither is a surname. What would it matter if she had used both her first and surname? I do on parts of the internet. As long as you don't provide a bunch of personal info so that people can still your identity there's nothing wrong with it. It makes neither of us a troll.

Yes I use my full name on other parts of the internet too.

But not on an immigration forum, and especially not if I was parading my supposed naivety and gullibility in public and talking about personal relationships. I've looked through many posts on here, and this poster is the only one who registered with firstname + surname (though when challenged now says its just a partial name).

I wonder what happens when Basim comes across this thread? Might have been better to use a completely made up name, considering the content of the posts, the doubts raised about the relationship etc.

The clues are there. And the story is ridiculous. This isn't even a good troll, or particularly amusing, other than the balcony thing of course which I have to admit was pretty good (I lived in the middle east for quite a while).

Edited April 28, 2015 by Limey

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