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I would have to say majority of the time, the US government doesn't care.

Just like people who become US citizens but say the oath is "just words." If it's "just words" what does that say about you?

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Nope that's pretty much how it works.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1481

You need to read it all.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Process to renounce American citizenship, even after voluntarily acquiring another citizenship is not that easy, nor cheap - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2014/09/04/wanna-renounce-your-u-s-citizenship-its-gonna-cost-you-more/

Husband did what is described at point 2, without the intention of relinquishing is US nationality, so... still American. Maybe he'll renounce at retirement, we'll see how much of a hassle it is to deal with the IRS then.

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
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I did. Every word.

Begs the question how you came to that conclusion, anyway there are a lot of yanks who have moved to the UK and are now duals as well as I am sure many in Canada.

Just acquiring another citizenship will not lose your US one, a lot of bending over needed to do that.

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Begs the question how you came to that conclusion, anyway there are a lot of yanks who have moved to the UK and are now duals as well as I am sure many in Canada.

Just acquiring another citizenship will not lose your US one, a lot of bending over needed to do that

Okay I'll let you read it all too, and my posts and figure out yourself how I came to that conclusion and then that it doesn't matter because they don't care.

Well unless you're a spy.

Or a terrorist.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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I assume you misread it, easily done.

I assume you misread it, easily done.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Neither, when you are approved.

When you're approved after arriving and getting married?? That's what I was getting at but not a well-posed question.

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lol.. You might.. Just don't call bathroom "washroom", they will laugh.

Not always true. Depends where you are.

Same as pop, soda and coke!

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USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

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2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
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Not always true. Depends where you are.

Same as pop, soda and coke!

The one that always gets me is the cheque vs. bill. When you receive a cheque, it's usually money that is given to you. When you receive a bill, it's something that you have to pay (phone, utility, etc.). So the very fact that Americans ask for the cheque at a restaurants makes NO sense. Oh, and they spell it "check". Don't get me started on the imperial/metric. I mean, I love America, but goddamn, why you gotta be so weird!

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Im used to check vs bill. I only write cheque when i am writing a cheque.

But my hubs hates when I say pop instead of soda (he grew up with coke and figures he is already conpromising... lol) He also makes fun of me when I say toque. I refuse to call it a beanie.

Or a toboggan like he grew up with. Southerners... sigh...

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Im used to check vs bill. I only write cheque when i am writing a cheque.

But my hubs hates when I say pop instead of soda (he grew up with coke and figures he is already conpromising... lol) He also makes fun of me when I say toque. I refuse to call it a beanie.

Or a toboggan like he grew up with. Southerners... sigh...

A check is a check for paying and for receiving. A bill is something passed in Congress or a persons name.

As with the Soda/Coke/Pop debate, that's just state by state. Most of mid to north will say pop or coke, and soda is more east coast, Arizona/California and Missery (Missouri) while coke is more southern. I've always just said soda...

I'm just a wanderer in the desert winds...

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Oct - Job offer in US

Nov - Received my TN-1 to be authorized to work in the US

Nov - Moved to US

1998-2001

Recieved 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th TN

2002

May - Met future wife at arts fest

Nov - Recieved 6th TN

2003

Nov - Recieved 7th TN

Jul - Our Wedding

Aug - Filed for AOS

Sep - Recieved EAD

Sep - Recieved Advanced Parole

2004

Jan - Interview, accepted for Green Card

Feb - Green Card Arrived in mail

2005

Oct - I-751 sent off

2006

Jan - 10 year Green Card accepted

Mar - 10 year Green Card arrived

Oct - Filed N-400 for Naturalization

Nov - Biometrics done

Nov - Just recieved Naturalization Interview date for Jan.

2007

Jan - Naturalization Interview Completed

Feb - Oath Letter recieved

Feb - Oath Ceremony

Feb 21 - Finally a US CITIZEN (yay)

THE END

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Soda is common here in Colorado. Hubs is from Alabama which is why he grew up saying "coke." I grew up saying Pop in BC. I only write cheque when referring to a Canadian cheque anymore. Otherwise it's check. I was explaining toque to people today. They all looked at me like I had a 3rd eyeball. LMAO

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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It's Coke or Soda here in Arkansas ,more Soda then Coke though.

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