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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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So as some of you are planning on applying for EI after you move to the states on a K1 Visa let me just share with you my experience.

I haven't applied for EAD because I was going to do it all after I married. Sadly for me, in the state of Maine, you need an SSN to get married - so I had to wait 2 weeks, apply for SSN, wait another 2 weeks for that to come in the mail. Then I had to wait a week for the town office to be open and then wait another week for someone to officate the license. And now I am waiting 2 MORE weeks for my certificate before I can start sending in my AOS, EAD and AP...

In order to qualify for EI you need to prove you are eligible for employment and they want to see that you applied for EAD. If you did not, you will not get EI! I got a letter in the mail today stating just that. My claim has been denied because I do not possess a valid employment authorization. "Because of this you are not considered eligible to work"

But I wouldn't have gotten my SSN in time for the "4 week" deadline to apply for EI so I wouldn't've been able to get it anyway if I had applied for my EAD earlier. ...?

IDK.

Am I completely screwed or can I apply for EAD now and then reply to the EI office?

:(

I-129F Process:

 

05/03/2014 I-129F Sent
05/09/2014 NOA1

05/12/2014 Alien Registration Number Changed

09/17/2014 NOA2 (OMG!!!!) 

09/23/2014 Case forwarded to NVC
10/01/2014 NVC Received

10/06/2014 NVC forwarded case to Montreal Consulate 

10/07/2014 Montreal Consulate Received

10/08/2014 Sent Packet 3

10/09/2014 Received Packet 4

10/22/2014 Medical Appointment

11/12/2014 Interview  APPROVED 

11/24/2014 Visa in Hand!!!!

12/28/2014 POE - Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls
01/12/2015 Applied for SSN

01/31/2015 The day I married my best friend 

 

 AOS Process:

 

03/14/2015 Sent AOS Package

03/23/2015 Email confirmation, case accepted & routed to USCIS
04/15/2015 Biometrics taken
06/03/2015 75 days since receipt date on my EAD application, called USCIS for a service request  

06/09/2015 NOA2 for AP & EAD ^.^ (arrived in the mail on June 15th!!! finally!!!!)
06/17/2015 AP/EAD Combo card in hand!
06/22/2015 Notice of Potential Interview Waiver Case
09/27/2015 AOS  APPROVED
10/03/2015 Received Green Card in the mail!!!

 

ROC Process:
06/26/2017 Sent ROC Package

06/30/2017 NOA / 1 year extension 
08/04/2017 Biometrics taken

04/09/2018 Case was received at my local office

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I never heard of any State that requires a SSN to get married, sure it would have been mentioned, now they want ID and SSN is commonly used.

SSN does not give your work authorisation evidence for that you need EAD and realistically that takes at lest 90 days from filing.

Presumably the benefit is a Canadian one and something you can claim even if you have emigrated.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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No state requires you to have a social security number in order to obtain a marriage licence.

If you have one you must declare it (federal law), but that's all.

Apply for an EAD when you submit your AoS; it will take approximately 90 days to be approved, barring RFEs.

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Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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That was the plan. To apply for EAD when I submit my AoS.

The issue now is that I don't qualify for EI because I did not apply for EAD before 4 weeks after my last day of employment. And it would be really handy for a lot of people coming here on the K1 visa to be aware of that.

I-129F Process:

 

05/03/2014 I-129F Sent
05/09/2014 NOA1

05/12/2014 Alien Registration Number Changed

09/17/2014 NOA2 (OMG!!!!) 

09/23/2014 Case forwarded to NVC
10/01/2014 NVC Received

10/06/2014 NVC forwarded case to Montreal Consulate 

10/07/2014 Montreal Consulate Received

10/08/2014 Sent Packet 3

10/09/2014 Received Packet 4

10/22/2014 Medical Appointment

11/12/2014 Interview  APPROVED 

11/24/2014 Visa in Hand!!!!

12/28/2014 POE - Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls
01/12/2015 Applied for SSN

01/31/2015 The day I married my best friend 

 

 AOS Process:

 

03/14/2015 Sent AOS Package

03/23/2015 Email confirmation, case accepted & routed to USCIS
04/15/2015 Biometrics taken
06/03/2015 75 days since receipt date on my EAD application, called USCIS for a service request  

06/09/2015 NOA2 for AP & EAD ^.^ (arrived in the mail on June 15th!!! finally!!!!)
06/17/2015 AP/EAD Combo card in hand!
06/22/2015 Notice of Potential Interview Waiver Case
09/27/2015 AOS  APPROVED
10/03/2015 Received Green Card in the mail!!!

 

ROC Process:
06/26/2017 Sent ROC Package

06/30/2017 NOA / 1 year extension 
08/04/2017 Biometrics taken

04/09/2018 Case was received at my local office

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You could have applied based on your K1 status, a waste of time for most. But presumably you need documentation to support EAD.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Hi Soapies,

I came here on a K1 Visa in August and applied for EI within 4 weeks. I did not have Employment Authorization and was not going to apply until I was married and sending in my i-485 (Sent it in oct 7). I would suggest you call the Out of Canada line and ask them to call you back. I'm pretty sure my claim was denied at first as well, once i'd sent in my passport and stuff because they mailed me a paper form to fill out. Then I started getting paper claims and did my biweekly phone calls. A lady called me and went over what I had to do which was get my reports in and once I have my EAD to fax that into them. I got my EAD on January 2nd and it was good as of Dec 22. I thought I'd get backdated to august but a lady told me they go from the date on the EAD. So I finally got my first payment on feb 5th.

I think I read somewhere on here that you can just pick up your claim again when you get your ead, but i just did the phone calls because it was something to do and I wasn't working, driving, anything.

I don't get as much as someone who came over with the ability to work right away but really until visa journey I didn't know I could have even gotten anything!

Hope that helps, and I would call the Out of Canada EI line.

Adjustment of Status

Date Filed : 2014-10-07

NOA Date : 2014-10-14

Bio. Appt. : 2014-11-06

Interview Date : 2015-01-05 - APPROVED!

Green Card Received: 2015-01-13 *error on Green Card

i-90 mailed: 2015-01-16

EAD

Date Filed : 2014-10-07

NOA Date : 2014-10-14

Approved Date : 2014-12-22

Received Date: 2015-01-02

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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ty so much I will try that

I-129F Process:

 

05/03/2014 I-129F Sent
05/09/2014 NOA1

05/12/2014 Alien Registration Number Changed

09/17/2014 NOA2 (OMG!!!!) 

09/23/2014 Case forwarded to NVC
10/01/2014 NVC Received

10/06/2014 NVC forwarded case to Montreal Consulate 

10/07/2014 Montreal Consulate Received

10/08/2014 Sent Packet 3

10/09/2014 Received Packet 4

10/22/2014 Medical Appointment

11/12/2014 Interview  APPROVED 

11/24/2014 Visa in Hand!!!!

12/28/2014 POE - Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls
01/12/2015 Applied for SSN

01/31/2015 The day I married my best friend 

 

 AOS Process:

 

03/14/2015 Sent AOS Package

03/23/2015 Email confirmation, case accepted & routed to USCIS
04/15/2015 Biometrics taken
06/03/2015 75 days since receipt date on my EAD application, called USCIS for a service request  

06/09/2015 NOA2 for AP & EAD ^.^ (arrived in the mail on June 15th!!! finally!!!!)
06/17/2015 AP/EAD Combo card in hand!
06/22/2015 Notice of Potential Interview Waiver Case
09/27/2015 AOS  APPROVED
10/03/2015 Received Green Card in the mail!!!

 

ROC Process:
06/26/2017 Sent ROC Package

06/30/2017 NOA / 1 year extension 
08/04/2017 Biometrics taken

04/09/2018 Case was received at my local office

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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To get EI.. you have to be able to work--not just have applied for ur EAD..but to actually be in possession of it...

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I think it will get cleared up once you get your EAD. You were just too early applying.

And be sure to leave a message on that out of Canada line. I'm assuming it is still the same way. I was surprised that I ALWAYS had to leave a message but when I spoke to "Brad" he assured me that nobody ever actually answered the phone and that all messages were returned. They were always quick to get back to me. Good luck!

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USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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So as some of you are planning on applying for EI after you move to the states on a K1 Visa let me just share with you my experience.

I haven't applied for EAD because I was going to do it all after I married. Sadly for me, in the state of Maine, you need an SSN to get married - so I had to wait 2 weeks, apply for SSN, wait another 2 weeks for that to come in the mail. Then I had to wait a week for the town office to be open and then wait another week for someone to officate the license. And now I am waiting 2 MORE weeks for my certificate before I can start sending in my AOS, EAD and AP...

In order to qualify for EI you need to prove you are eligible for employment and they want to see that you applied for EAD. If you did not, you will not get EI! I got a letter in the mail today stating just that. My claim has been denied because I do not possess a valid employment authorization. "Because of this you are not considered eligible to work"

But I wouldn't have gotten my SSN in time for the "4 week" deadline to apply for EI so I wouldn't've been able to get it anyway if I had applied for my EAD earlier. ...?

IDK.

Am I completely screwed or can I apply for EAD now and then reply to the EI office?

:(

I never heard of any State that requires a SSN to get married, sure it would have been mentioned, now they want ID and SSN is commonly used.

SSN does not give your work authorisation evidence for that you need EAD and realistically that takes at lest 90 days from filing.

Presumably the benefit is a Canadian one and something you can claim even if you have emigrated.

Hi Soapies,

I came here on a K1 Visa in August and applied for EI within 4 weeks. I did not have Employment Authorization and was not going to apply until I was married and sending in my i-485 (Sent it in oct 7). I would suggest you call the Out of Canada line and ask them to call you back. I'm pretty sure my claim was denied at first as well, once i'd sent in my passport and stuff because they mailed me a paper form to fill out. Then I started getting paper claims and did my biweekly phone calls. A lady called me and went over what I had to do which was get my reports in and once I have my EAD to fax that into them. I got my EAD on January 2nd and it was good as of Dec 22. I thought I'd get backdated to august but a lady told me they go from the date on the EAD. So I finally got my first payment on feb 5th.

I think I read somewhere on here that you can just pick up your claim again when you get your ead, but i just did the phone calls because it was something to do and I wasn't working, driving, anything.

I don't get as much as someone who came over with the ability to work right away but really until visa journey I didn't know I could have even gotten anything!

Hope that helps, and I would call the Out of Canada EI line.

To get EI.. you have to be able to work--not just have applied for ur EAD..but to actually be in possession of it...

Okay, so someone correct me if I am wrong. Are you considered eligible for EI benefits if you have moved outside of Canada? That's what I don't quite understand. My aunt works in the EI office in Calgary and I asked her if she could look into whether I would qualify for EI and what the process would be to claim EI and she said that you can't if you have moved outside of Canada, have no job and you don't have the ability to work in the US (meaning you haven't yet received your Work Authorization). I sort of understand how that makes sense but then it doesn't at the same time either.

From everyone's comments above, it seems that people have been applying for EI but I haven't come across a thread yet where someone has confirmed that they have started receiving their EI benefits. Has anyone here spoke to anyone at EI to have them clarify this?

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I agree, you are applying too early. I did that too. You have to wait till you have your EAD to apply

♥ Our K-1 Journey ♥
11/24/2012 - I-129F submitted via UPS (Vermont Service Center)
11/27/2012 - NOA1

06/05/2013- NOA2

06/10/2013-NVC received our case

06/14/2013-MTL case number assigned

06/17/2013-Case sent to Montreal

06/19/2013-Logged at Montreal

06/21/2013-Packet 3 sent out

06/27/2013- Packet 4 sent out

08/30/2013- Interview Montreal
09/09/2013-POE- Grand Portage, MN.

09/10/2013-at home in Kentucky

10/12/2013- we are MARRIED!

♥ Our AOS Journey ♥

11/21/2013 - submitted via USPS

11/27/2013-NOA1

12/23/2013-Biometrics appt. Louisville

01/24/2014-EAD/AP approved (65 days)

01/30/2014-EAD/AP mailed out, USPS 2 day tracking number assigned

02/01/2014-EAD/AP combo card arrived in the mail

03/04/2014- Used Advance Parole document to re-enter after a visit to Canada (without any issues)!

03/09/2014- checked USCIS website and saw update saying "Card/Document production" for I-485

03/13/2014-AOS approved. Received Welcome Letter (i-797)

03/17/2014-Green Card arrived in the mail

♥ Our ROC Journey ♥

12/17/2015-Mailed pkg. via USPS
12/22/2015 -NOA1

1/21/2016-Biometrics appt. Louisville

9/8/2016- INFOPass appt for I-551 stamp

3/3/2017-Filed online service request

3/3/2017- ROC approved. (Online status never changed)

3/9/2017- Rec'd approval letter in mail. 

3/21/2017- Text and emails stating card was mailed out

3/24/2017- Rec'd Greencard in the mail

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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If you get any clarification from the EI office, be sure to post again. I had questions about this as well!

I have read that you need to apply within 4 weeks of your last day worked to qualify and that they won't approve it until you have EAD/Green card to show you are eligible for work.

That said, I have also seen on here people saying not to apply for EI until you are eligible for work, but for a K-1 that would be past the 4 week timeline.

there is a pinned thread on this and there are a number of K-1s there that noted they got EI approved, but the timelines on what to do when are very unclear (to me anyways)

--------------------------

K-1 Visa Timeline

--------------------------

04/21/2014: Submitted I-129F

05/29/2014: NOA2 via email

01/20/2015: Visa Received

03/15/2015: POE

04/01/2015: Married!! (L)

04/11/2015: Submitted AOS / EAD / AP

10/09/2015: Green Card Approved

07/20/2017: Submitted I-751 ROC

07/27/2017: NOA1 Received

10/14/2017: Biometrics Waived

10/27/2018: ROC Approved

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Okay, so someone correct me if I am wrong. Are you considered eligible for EI benefits if you have moved outside of Canada? That's what I don't quite understand. My aunt works in the EI office in Calgary and I asked her if she could look into whether I would qualify for EI and what the process would be to claim EI and she said that you can't if you have moved outside of Canada, have no job and you don't have the ability to work in the US (meaning you haven't yet received your Work Authorization). I sort of understand how that makes sense but then it doesn't at the same time either.

From everyone's comments above, it seems that people have been applying for EI but I haven't come across a thread yet where someone has confirmed that they have started receiving their EI benefits. Has anyone here spoke to anyone at EI to have them clarify this?

Lot of people of got EI.....You have to look and see what type of Visa people came in on....CR-1 and IR-1 can work right away when they enter the USA, so they are eligible for EI $$$ right away.......K1'ers are not work eligible right away...you still need to apply for EI right away....BUT your not going to get any EI money until you have the EAD in hand (not just apply for it) But remember..you (K1) still need to apply for it....Once u get the EAD, you will Scan/email/fax it into the EI office

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Okay, so someone correct me if I am wrong. Are you considered eligible for EI benefits if you have moved outside of Canada? That's what I don't quite understand. My aunt works in the EI office in Calgary and I asked her if she could look into whether I would qualify for EI and what the process would be to claim EI and she said that you can't if you have moved outside of Canada, have no job and you don't have the ability to work in the US (meaning you haven't yet received your Work Authorization). I sort of understand how that makes sense but then it doesn't at the same time either.

From everyone's comments above, it seems that people have been applying for EI but I haven't come across a thread yet where someone has confirmed that they have started receiving their EI benefits. Has anyone here spoke to anyone at EI to have them clarify this?

The eligibility to work part is what matters. As a CR1 holder I was able to get my EI almost immediately upon moving here. I had it for about 6 months. We are moving because of marriage. Your aunt is perhaps not properly explaining it to you. But if you have your work authorization here then you can qualify.

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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