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Filed: Country: South Africa
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Hi

My visitor visa was declined yesterday. I think it was based on the fact that I'm divorced, visiting a friend I met online 4 years ago. My friend, a guy, in the States has provided a letter of support, and this is meant to be a legitimate holiday. I have a job, home and kids here at home, but the officer didn't give me the chance to highlight those factors...

The officer didn't ask any questions relating to my ties here: the D160 didn't provide much opportunity to capture that info. He also didn't look at any documents. I couldn't indicate I have 2 kids, renting a home since 2012, have been at my job since 2008...

I hope to highlight my ties here with the next interview - they'll see that I've been declined, so I will mention I was and reapplied because I felt I have circumstances which wasn't asked about during initial interview, and wish to have it considered.

I reapplied again, captured same information but put down my best friend as paying for my trip (flight was my birthday gift from her, and she's drafting a letter to confirm as well as provide evidence of payment for the flight) previously I had indicated I was paying, because at the time of application I didn't know she was gifting me with the trip!

My daughter's father and I have a parenting plan drawn up by a lawyer in 2012, stating we have joint, shared responsibility for her. He is also getting an affidavit to prove that he is her father etc and to state this holidays is his turn to have her.

I have a letter from my work, as well as unabridged certificates for both children. Also my lease agreement showing my lease period is till August 2015.

I plan to draw up an itinerary of places to visit within the state I'll be visiting. My flights are booked for 27/12/2014, return 20/01/2015.

Do you think I stand a chance of being approved? Anything I should do/not do/say/not say? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Honestly, I think your chances of getting it this time- with only a week or two between the applications, and no change in your circumstances- are very slim.

Waiting a few months, and maybe traveling abroad to other places that need visas and returning, to show that you DO return, is more likely to yield a positive result.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Country: South Africa
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Honestly, I think your chances of getting it this time- with only a week or two between the applications, and no change in your circumstances- are very slim.

Waiting a few months, and maybe traveling abroad to other places that need visas and returning, to show that you DO return, is more likely to yield a positive result.

Thank you for your response.

Denied under Section 214 b - I have been deemed a possible immigrant, hence being denied. I will advise the officer that I have further information which was not discussed during my first interview. Not at any time did the officer even allude to my ties here, so I couldn't tell him I have 2 kids. The visa denial was based on the fact that I don't have strong ties, or not a good candidate for this visa.

My hope is to try again, acknowledge I've being declined, advise there were some points not discussed at first interview and that I have further evidence to support the fact that I must return - return ticket, lease agreement, Parent Plan plus affidavit from father, letter from employer, my kids unabridged birth certificates.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Well,if you have the money, go for it, all they can say is no,and a tourist visa denial will not hinder future visa apps.

Good luck!

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Country: South Africa
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Well,if you have the money, go for it, all they can say is no,and a tourist visa denial will not hinder future visa apps.

Good luck!

I was really looking forward to this holiday, first trip overseas since 2005 (went to UK to visit friends/fam) so I'm giving it another go.

Thank you!!

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Thailand
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Thank you for your response.

Denied under Section 214 b - I have been deemed a possible immigrant, hence being denied. I will advise the officer that I have further information which was not discussed during my first interview. Not at any time did the officer even allude to my ties here, so I couldn't tell him I have 2 kids. The visa denial was based on the fact that I don't have strong ties, or not a good candidate for this visa.

My hope is to try again, acknowledge I've being declined, advise there were some points not discussed at first interview and that I have further evidence to support the fact that I must return - return ticket, lease agreement, Parent Plan plus affidavit from father, letter from employer, my kids unabridged birth certificates.

I agree with Penguin. You will be denied again but nothing wrong with trying.

I am afraid you will find that a return ticket and the lease are worthless because they can be changed so easily and its done all the time.

Filed: Country: Philippines
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Hi

My visitor visa was declined yesterday. I think it was based on the fact that I'm divorced, visiting a friend I met online 4 years ago. My friend, a guy, in the States has provided a letter of support, and this is meant to be a legitimate holiday. I have a job, home and kids here at home, but the officer didn't give me the chance to highlight those factors...

The officer didn't ask any questions relating to my ties here: the D160 didn't provide much opportunity to capture that info. He also didn't look at any documents. I couldn't indicate I have 2 kids, renting a home since 2012, have been at my job since 2008...

I hope to highlight my ties here with the next interview - they'll see that I've been declined, so I will mention I was and reapplied because I felt I have circumstances which wasn't asked about during initial interview, and wish to have it considered.

I reapplied again, captured same information but put down my best friend as paying for my trip (flight was my birthday gift from her, and she's drafting a letter to confirm as well as provide evidence of payment for the flight) previously I had indicated I was paying, because at the time of application I didn't know she was gifting me with the trip!

My daughter's father and I have a parenting plan drawn up by a lawyer in 2012, stating we have joint, shared responsibility for her. He is also getting an affidavit to prove that he is her father etc and to state this holidays is his turn to have her.

I have a letter from my work, as well as unabridged certificates for both children. Also my lease agreement showing my lease period is till August 2015.

I plan to draw up an itinerary of places to visit within the state I'll be visiting. My flights are booked for 27/12/2014, return 20/01/2015.

Do you think I stand a chance of being approved? Anything I should do/not do/say/not say? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you

You've booked AND paid for your flights already before being approved or disapproved? What you're proposing seems reasonable, but like another has pointed out, it may be too soon between applications.

Filed: Country: South Africa
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You've booked AND paid for your flights already before being approved or disapproved? What you're proposing seems reasonable, but like another has pointed out, it may be too soon between applications.

There's an option for getting monies return should visa be declined. I ticked that option :)

Yes, it may seem too soon, but my first visit didn't give me the opportunity to highlight other factors regarding my case, so I'd rather reapply soonest. I can only try again and hope for the best. My ties to my kids as well as my job should count for something.... Let's see.

Filed: Country: South Africa
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I agree with Penguin. You will be denied again but nothing wrong with trying.

I am afraid you will find that a return ticket and the lease are worthless because they can be changed so easily and its done all the time.

I was denied once, if it's twice based on the second tries info, then there goes my US holiday. The return ticket/lease aren't the main things for my reapplication, but couple that with my kids and my job....?
Filed: Country: Philippines
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There's an option for getting monies return should visa be declined. I ticked that option :)

Yes, it may seem too soon, but my first visit didn't give me the opportunity to highlight other factors regarding my case, so I'd rather reapply soonest. I can only try again and hope for the best. My ties to my kids as well as my job should count for something.... Let's see.

Good, covered your base on that one.

Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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There's an option for getting monies return should visa be declined. I ticked that option :)

Yes, it may seem too soon, but my first visit didn't give me the opportunity to highlight other factors regarding my case, so I'd rather reapply soonest. I can only try again and hope for the best. My ties to my kids as well as my job should count for something.... Let's see.

They're not obliged to consider any additional information. The majority of the decision is based upon the information in the application.

It's not a particularly fair system but there's very little chance of it changing any time soon.

But if the time and expense for the application aren't a problem then you can apply as often as you like.

But consider this, the 'friend' you're going to see. Is there any romantic involvement there?

You wouldn't be the first person to 'visit' the States to see a friend, leaving kids, property and jobs back home. Only to suddenly fall in love and stay.

Jobs can be quit, property abandoned and kids can be sent for at a later date.

That's not saying that this is your intentions at all, but that's the angle that the consular officers look at it.

But it's your time and money to make the application, and thousands of people are approved every day so you may get a better chance with a different CO.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

Filed: Country: South Africa
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They're not obliged to consider any additional information. The majority of the decision is based upon the information in the application.

It's not a particularly fair system but there's very little chance of it changing any time soon.

But if the time and expense for the application aren't a problem then you can apply as often as you like.

But consider this, the 'friend' you're going to see. Is there any romantic involvement there?

You wouldn't be the first person to 'visit' the States to see a friend, leaving kids, property and jobs back home. Only to suddenly fall in love and stay.

Jobs can be quit, property abandoned and kids can be sent for at a later date.

That's not saying that this is your intentions at all, but that's the angle that the consular officers look at it.

But it's your time and money to make the application, and thousands of people are approved every day so you may get a better chance with a different CO.

No romantic involvement at all. He's someone I befriended online and have been corresponding with for 4 years. Since I've always wanted to visit the US, and he is the only contact I have there, he has offered me accommodation and will take me around to see a few places. If all goes well for him re getting off from work, he will visit my country and I will do the same for him. I definitely have no plans to move to the USA. Love my country and it's beauty too much, and all my family are here!

Thank you for your response - gives me something to think about!! :)

OP,

When is your interview? Come back and let us know the results? Good luck.

Next week!! Will do, and thank you. I'm leaving it in God's hands at this point.

Filed: Country: Philippines
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OP,

Thanks for agreeing to let us know the results.

As you correctly pointed out, "The officer didn't ask any questions relating to my ties here: the D160 didn't provide much opportunity to capture that info." You're right, sadly it doesn't.

Agree with MacUK, perhaps you'll get a different CO and have a better chance. $160 to find out as far as I'm concerned and it doesn't seem a consideration for you either.

Regards.

 
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