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Has anyone ever heard of the immigrant signing an affidavit more or less swearing to never take the sponsor to court demanding payment? Definitely not something to be sent in with the AOS packet, just for the sponsor to have for some peace of mind. I realize that the government seeking reimbursement for government aid paid to the immigrant is one thing, but I'd think the immigrant can at least personally swear to not go after the sponsor's money. I'm thinking the extreme cases, after a divorce, of the immigrant quitting their job and then demanding to be maintained financially, etc.

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The I-864 is a contract between the government and the sponsor, not the sponsor and the beneficiary, so such an affadavit would be irrelevant.

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Has anyone ever heard of the immigrant signing an affidavit more or less swearing to never take the sponsor to court demanding payment? Definitely not something to be sent in with the AOS packet, just for the sponsor to have for some peace of mind. I realize that the government seeking reimbursement for government aid paid to the immigrant is one thing, but I'd think the immigrant can at least personally swear to not go after the sponsor's money. I'm thinking the extreme cases, after a divorce, of the immigrant quitting their job and then demanding to be maintained financially, etc.

The I-864 is a contract between the government and the sponsor, not the sponsor and the beneficiary, so such an affadavit would be irrelevant.

I agree with Penguin - the document assures that the sponsor will pay the government back for any government benefits that the beneficiary receives. The beneficiary has no right at all to demand any sort of payment from the sponsor, so an affidavit would be completely unnecessary.

On the other hand, if the beneficiary does receive government benefits, then the sponsor is ultimately responsible, regardless of any agreement between sponsor and beneficiary.

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Here is some reading if you think the sponsor can only be "sued" by the government.

http://www.pugetsoundlegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/i-864_ssrn_version.pdf

http://i-864.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/I-864_Update_BIB.pdf

http://www.floridabar.org/divcom/jn/jnjournal01.nsf/c0d731e03de9828d852574580042ae7a/2cbe6a52e76636f28525763b00661a63!OpenDocument&Highlight=0,*

http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/demanding-support-payments-under-the-i-864-affidavit-of-support

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Immigration+form+I-864+(affidavit+of+support)+and+efforts+to+collect...-a0216412343

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http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864.pdf(page 7 bottom)

What If I Do Not Fulfill My Obligations?

If you do not provide sufficient support to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, that person may sue you for this support.

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JimmyHou   610

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http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864.pdf(page 7 bottom)

What If I Do Not Fulfill My Obligations?

If you do not provide sufficient support to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, that person may sue you for this support.

I agree with Penguin - the document assures that the sponsor will pay the government back for any government benefits that the beneficiary receives. The beneficiary has no right at all to demand any sort of payment from the sponsor, so an affidavit would be completely unnecessary.

On the other hand, if the beneficiary does receive government benefits, then the sponsor is ultimately responsible, regardless of any agreement between sponsor and beneficiary.

Thank you for correcting me!

My comment above was clearly wrong.

I'll try to do a little more research before posting next time.

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For a review of each step of my N-400 naturalization process, from application to oath ceremony, please click here.

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ABDyJLSO   9

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Thanks for the input all! As I suspected, the I-864 seems to be bullet-proof.

09/24/14 Marriage

USCIS

10/23/14 Mailed I-130 from Spain

11/05/14 NOA 1, routed to CSC

12/04/14 NOA 2

NVC

12/17/14 Case received

01/22/15 Case number assigned

01/23/15 DS-261 completed

01/26/15 AOS bill invoiced and paid

02/09/15 Mailed both packages from Spain

02/17/15 Scan date AOS & IV packages

02/17/15 IV bill invoiced

02/18/15 IV bill paid

02/20/15 DS-260 completed

03/24/15 Case Complete

04/16/15 P4 email

Madrid Embassy

05/26/15 Medical

05/28/15 Interview- Approved

07/29/15 POE

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