birth certificate translation question

[ILvRaceHorses 4]

i have my and my spouse's original birth certificate along with english translation. the birth certificate translation was done in pakistan. here is the question: will nvc accept that birth certificate translation or i do need a new birth certificate translated here in the u.s.? i remember someone on this site stating birth certificate needs to be translated here in the u.s. but i did not pay much attention to it since i had just filed my i130 and did not want to be overwhelmed :-)

[Ning 619]

i have my and my spouse's original birth certificate along with english translation. the birth certificate translation was done in pakistan. here is the question: will nvc accept that birth certificate translation or i do need a new birth certificate translated here in the u.s.? i remember someone on this site stating birth certificate needs to be translated here in the u.s. but i did not pay much attention to it since i had just filed my i130 and did not want to be overwhelmed :-)

Translations can be done by anyone anywhere that is competent in both languages. They simply add a statement on the doc indication they are such. That simple statement becomes the " certification " . Use the search block here on V J to find other info.

[U and A 0]

It is suggested that translation should be done from a country of birth and should also be attested by their ministry of foreign affair plus from the attority who issues it

In case of pakistan it should be done by Nadra ( who issue computerizes Birth cert these days)

[Ning 619]

It is suggested that translation should be done from a country of birth and should also be attested by their ministry of foreign affair plus from the attority who issues it

In case of pakistan it should be done by Nadra ( who issue computerizes Birth cert these days)

Where did you get that info? Never heard of this.

[pushbrk 12,969]

The foreign beneficiary's birth certificate is not sent to USCIS, so never needs any translation unless it's not in the local language of the Embassy where the interview will take place. If the petitioner was born abroad and is now a US citizen, their birth certificate is never required at all for a spouse visa process. Petitioners use birth certificates as evidence of US Citizenship. If this petitioner was born abroad, they'll use other documentation, like a Naturalization Certificate or US passport as evidence of US Citizenship.

It is true that for certain countries, like China, the civil documents must be translated by the correct government office in the country of origin. Whether this applies to Pakistan, I couldn't tell you but I don't see a reason to translate a birth certificate for a Pakistani applying for a visa from Pakistan.

[snowjoe 0]

I recently had a RFE because my translations were not certified properly. It delayed my visa application at least 60 days and counting. From the USCIS website:

http://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-and-fees/general-tips-assembling-applications-mailing

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.
  
  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:
  
  Certification by Translator
  
  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.
  
  Signature_________________________________
  Date Typed Name
  Address

Halfway down the page. I wish I had know this before.

[pushbrk 12,969]

I recently had a RFE because my translations were not certified properly. It delayed my visa application at least 60 days and counting. From the USCIS website:

http://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-and-fees/general-tips-assembling-applications-mailing

• Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

  The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

  Certification by Translator

  I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

  Signature_________________________________

  Date Typed Name

  Address

Halfway down the page. I wish I had know this before.

Be that as it may, no birth certificate will be submitted to USCIS in the case in question here, not for the petitioner or the beneficiary. Since no birth certificate will be submitted, neither will any translation of a birth certificate be needed in this case. The beneficiary/visa applicant/foreigner intending to immigrate will not need a translation of their Pakistan birth certificate at the NVC or Consulate stage either because they'll be interviewing in Pakistan. Maybe read the tag line in my signature.

[mrs adnan 8]

Now in Pakistan if u go to nadara office they give a computierz birth certificate which is already in English u don't to be translate them anymore.

[snowjoe 0]

Well this is interesting pushbrk! I submitted birth certificates for my wife and my stepson for several reasons. First reason is that I had them and the translations. Second reason was that I felt that proving parental relationship and custody would be helpful. I guess the third reason would be that I felt more would always be better than less. If I read your post correctly I did not need to provide birth certificates, possibly should not have provided them, and therefore I created my own problems. Now I feel worse than I did before. Yikes! Wow.

[pushbrk 12,969]

Well this is interesting pushbrk! I submitted birth certificates for my wife and my stepson for several reasons. First reason is that I had them and the translations. Second reason was that I felt that proving parental relationship and custody would be helpful. I guess the third reason would be that I felt more would always be better than less. If I read your post correctly I did not need to provide birth certificates, possibly should not have provided them, and therefore I created my own problems. Now I feel worse than I did before. Yikes! Wow.

This discussion is about a specific case. Your case is different. You WOULD be required to submit a birth certificate for the child AND a translation to USCIS. Your wife's birth certificate would go to NVC but would need no translation if she's interviewing in Cuba. There is no child in the case we're discussing. Check out that soft blue tag line in my signature. We are NOT discussing YOUR case. We're discussing a Pakistan case with no child and a petitioner not born in the USA.

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[Sal1234 0]

I agreed with Mrs Adnan; if it's from Nadira or already have a seal, stamp and autograph of the agency then you should be fine. Attesting from the foreign affairs is mandatory only if you got it translated from the court office. Now days, Nadra issues Birth Certificates in original local language and English. I have seen attestation from the foreign affairs on the Marriage Certificate as they are always in Local Language.

NVC usually does not require Birth Certificate; it's one of the list of document for the consulate.

[pushbrk 12,969]

NVC usually does not require Birth Certificate; it's one of the list of document for the consulate.

This is not correct. NVC does require the foreigner's birth certificate. However, for a Pakistani interviewing in Islamabad, no translation is needed for a Pakistan birth certificate. No translation of French documents when interviewing in France. German in Germany, Russian in Russia and so on.

NVC is not USCIS. Translations are needed for all documents submitted to USCIS. You would only translate a foreign spuse's birth certificate if, say, they were born in Pakistan and interviewing in Paris.