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My GC resident since is same day i had interview. on

16-2-2014

what is meaing " triage "?

triage = ?

Thanks for posting your date. That means you can apply for citizenship after November 17th, 2016, provided you meet all the requirements on the date you choose to apply.

Triage: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/triage

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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I know this link , but problem is {{ what day is my "permanent resident "}}

because i came by visa "K-!"

also i did marry on time too.

Everything was right and lawful . Then in normal way . after marry and sending or 1-485 form and other documents they need. I should be "permanent resident" without card

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in that link you sent me

page 1 / question 2

2. I am a Permanent Resident of the United States, and I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

Then question is now, If "Permanent Resident" is meaning someone has a GC . then why they put "And" between two sentences

on question 3 same page.

They ask : 3. I have been a Permanent Resident for: .... ...... . .......

if they meaing by question (3) "to have Permanent Resident Card" why they didn't put CARD on end the question 3.

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These things make me confused.

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My GC resident since is same day i had interview. on

16-2-2014

what is meaing " triage "?

triage = ?

Triage is not important. The resident since date is. You can file for citizenship about November 16, 2016, 90 days before your 3-year anniversary date as a Permanent Resident on February 16, 2017.

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I know this link , but problem is {{ what day is my "permanent resident "}}

because i came by visa "K-!"

also i did marry on time too.

Everything was right and lawful . Then in normal way . after marry and sending or 1-485 form and other documents they need. I should be "permanent resident" without card

---------

in that link you sent me

page 1 / question 2

2. I am a Permanent Resident of the United States, and I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

Then question is now, If "Permanent Resident" is meaning someone has a GC . then why they put "And" between two sentences

on question 3 same page.

They ask : 3. I have been a Permanent Resident for: .... ...... . .......

if they meaing by question (3) "to have Permanent Resident Card" why they didn't put CARD on end the question 3.

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These things make me confused.

It makes no matter what visa you came on, or when you got married, or anything.

It does look like your application for adjustment of status took abnormally long. Why that is, we do not know, but in the end, the "resident since" date on your green card is all that matters.

If you wish to challenge the date on which you did become a permanent resident and argue with USCIS that that was back in 2011, then you can take it up with them.

To answer your question about the "and" -- you need to submit a copy of your green card when applying for citizenship, so it not typically enough to be a permanent resident, you have to have the card so you can submit the photocopy of the front and back of the card along with your application for naturalization. In some situations that can be avoided, but I don't know such situations apply to you.

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Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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I know this link , but problem is {{ what day is my "permanent resident "}}

because i came by visa "K-!"

also i did marry on time too.

Everything was right and lawful . Then in normal way . after marry and sending or 1-485 form and other documents they need. I should be "permanent resident" without card

---------

in that link you sent me

page 1 / question 2

2. I am a Permanent Resident of the United States, and I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

Then question is now, If "Permanent Resident" is meaning someone has a GC . then why they put "And" between two sentences

on question 3 same page.

They ask : 3. I have been a Permanent Resident for: .... ...... . .......

if they meaing by question (3) "to have Permanent Resident Card" why they didn't put CARD on end the question 3.

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These things make me confused.

Not only do you have to physically reside in the US (the first part) you have to have the Permanent Resident Card (the second part). Both conditions have to be met.

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Not only do you have to physically reside in the US (the first part) you have to have the Permanent Resident Card (the second part). Both conditions have to be met.

I think same you.

I am a Permanent Resident of the United States, and I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

you have to physically reside in the US (the first part) = I am a Permanent Resident of the United States,

you have to have the Permanent Resident Card (the second part).= I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

Both conditions have to be met = and

Then

on question 3 :

I have been a Permanent Resident for: ..... ...... ...... = you have to physically reside in the US (the first part)

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Then

on question 3 :

I have been a Permanent Resident for: ..... ...... ...... = you have to physically reside in the US (the first part)

Since you have been granted permanent resident status, and you have a permanent resident card, the answer to question 3 is the "resident since" date on your card -- keeping in mind you have to meet physical presence, continuous residence and other requirements at the time you apply for citizenship. So as a dumb example, if you took a trip abroad over 6 months in the next 3 years, that may reset your counter so that you would have to wait 3 years from the date you came back to the US after your 6+ month trip.

My point is you need to be mindful of all the requirements.

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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Dear Shub ,

If you know some way I can fix the problem, please tell me.

How i can send a request to find out or fix the problem about it .

Also I didn't have travel out of USA after I arrive to USA on 1 sep/2011. Even I didn t travel out of our state.

I want to know if some thing i should to do before sending N-400 forms to USCIS ,

I will send my all document on the Dec 15 . 2014 in USCIS.

The day is = 3 years + about 1 month from my married.

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Dear Shub ,

If you know some way I can fix the problem, please tell me.

How i can send a request to find out or fix the problem about it .

Also I didn't have travel out of USA after I arrive to USA on 1 sep/2011. Even I didn t travel out of our state.

I want to know if some thing i should to do before sending N-400 forms to USCIS ,

I will send my all document on the Dec 15 . 2014 in USCIS.

The day is = 3 years + about 1 month from my married.

Please don't misunderstand me. I didn't say there is a problem, I said your application for adjustment of status looks like it took a long time. It happens and is not indicative of something you or USCIS did wrong.

If you think something is wrong based on the information at your disposal, then you should talk to USCIS about it as we don't have all the elements in hand to help you. For example, if you believe your adjustment of status was approved in 2011 and you became a permanent resident at that time but never received a green card, then the green card you received last month should reflect that and say you have been a resident since December 2011, but apparently it does not say that. Whether it is correct or a USCIS error, I do not and cannot know.

Per my understanding so far, there is no problem, and like I said, getting your green card just took longer than usual. Therefore, as it is, and based on the information at my disposal so far, if you apply for citizenship in December 2014, you will be denied because you have not been a permanent resident for three years.

Let me restate again that the date on which you got married has zero bearing on your eligibility to apply for naturalization, so you should put that out of your mind. The ONLY thing that matters is when you became a permanent resident.

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Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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Dear Shub ,

If you know some way I can fix the problem, please tell me.

How i can send a request to find out or fix the problem about it .

Also I didn't have travel out of USA after I arrive to USA on 1 sep/2011. Even I didn t travel out of our state.

I want to know if some thing i should to do before sending N-400 forms to USCIS ,

I will send my all document on the Dec 15 . 2014 in USCIS.

The day is = 3 years + about 1 month from my married.

Sure you can do that, but you're going to get it send back. There is absolutely nothing you can do other than wait until 2016. If you don't believe people here, give it a try, you'll be couple of hundred $ lighter.

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Dear Shub ,

If you know some way I can fix the problem, please tell me.

How i can send a request to find out or fix the problem about it .

Also I didn't have travel out of USA after I arrive to USA on 1 sep/2011. Even I didn t travel out of our state.

I want to know if some thing i should to do before sending N-400 forms to USCIS ,

I will send my all document on the Dec 15 . 2014 in USCIS.

The day is = 3 years + about 1 month from my married.

If you send your N-400 on Dec 2014, you will be denied and waste your fee.

You did not become a permanent resident until the date on your card says you did. Living here, being married to a USC, does not make you a permanent resident. You only reach that status when your green card is issued, because that is when USCIS gives you the legal status of permanent resident. Yes, USCIS appears to have screwed up and not processed your card. My wife arrived around the same time as you did, her card was issued on June 27th, 2012. We applied for her green card in November 2011, after being married in October of 2011. She can apply for citizenship 90 days before june 27, 2015. It matters not when she arrived, or when we got married, the only thing that matters is when the card was issued. USCIS got really backed up on processing green cards for K-1s back in 2012. We only got her's when we did because we kept on them, and got a congressman involved as soon as we fell behind their published timeline for processing. Many who just waited, got their cards more than a year after applying. You're an even exceptionally longer case to get your green card. But again it does not matter. There's no fixing this, USCIS did not issue you the status of permanent resident until the date stated on your card. You really should have gotten your congressman involved back in the summer of 2012, and not waited until this year. But now there is nothing you can do about this, unless you want to hire a lawyer to appeal the N-400 petition once its denied. If you're lucky, you'll finish in court about the time you're actually eligible to file for citizenship based on the date on your green card.

K1 from the Philippines
Arrival : 2011-09-08
Married : 2011-10-15
AOS
Date Card Received : 2012-07-13
EAD
Date Card Received : 2012-02-04

Sent ROC : 4-1-2014
Noa1 : 4-2-2014
Bio Complete : 4-18-2014
Approved : 6-24-2014

N-400 sent 2-13-2016
Bio Complete 3-14-2016
Interview
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Let me restate again that the date on which you got married has zero bearing on your eligibility to apply for naturalization, so you should put that out of your mind. The ONLY thing that matters is when you became a permanent resident.

It can not be like that ( marrage day is zero by k-1 visa)
The k-1 visa is not travel visa or student visa or else, I took those kind visa and I came in USA, and fall in love with someone got marriage with him/her, Then it got zero because of the wrong visa for marry. because I had not no kind eligible to marry in USCIS law.
K-1 visa mean , I had eligible to marry also I have a someone to marry , came by intent for marry. also i did. without marry i could even stay in U.S.
Then I do n't think marrige date is ZERO.
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I agree with Shrub. From filing for AOS in 2011 until your interview date you were NOT a legal permanent resident. Your status was 'AOS pending'. If you file the N-400 in 2014, it will be denied and you will be out of the filing fee. Wait until 3 years ( minus 90 days ) AFTER the resident since date on your Green Card. That is the date when you became a legal permanent resident.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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It can not be like that ( marrage day is zero by k-1 visa)

The k-1 visa is not travel visa or student visa or else, I took those kind visa and I came in USA, and fall in love with someone got marriage with him/her, Then it got zero because of the wrong visa for marry. because I had not no kind eligible to marry in USCIS law.

K-1 visa mean , I had eligible to marry also I have a someone to marry , came by intent for marry. also i did. without marry i could even stay in U.S.

Then I do n't think marrige date is ZERO.

Believe me, I also came to this country on a K-1, I know how it works.

A K-1 visa allows you to enter the USA with the intent to marry someone and apply for adjustment of status. You did all those things according to the rules, which is fine. Unfortunately it is meaningless when it comes to an application for naturalization, and the date of your marriage has no bearing.

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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Please see this link, in end this link (23)

They wrote ,for some people this happen to have 10 years green card without conditional permanent residency. Then I am not first one or strange case in this kind visa, this happen to me.

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1flow

I was hoping someone have same experince as me , tell me about his/her what i should to do.

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