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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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My grandfather naturalized in the US around 1948. He later moved to Canada, naturalized there, and had five children. They automatically gained Canadian citizenship. My aunt is now interested in exploring whether she can obtain US citizenship by dint of my grandfather's status. Is this possible, and what would she need to do to "activate" that status, if so?

1. She was born in 1957.

2. She was born in Canada, to a Canadian citizen and a US/Canadian/British citizen.

3. She has not claimed any USC status or residency in the US.

4. Her father returned to the US every year for approximately 4-5 months and maintained a domicile there until 2004.

Any other factors needed to be known?

26 January 2005 - Entered US as visitor from Canada.
16 May 2005 - Assembled health package, W2s.
27 June 2005 - Sent package off to Chicago lockbox.
28 June 2005 - Package received at Chicago lockbox.
11 July 2005 - RFE: cheques inappropriately placed.
18 July 2005 - NOA 1: I-485, I-131, I-765 received!
19 July 2005 - NOA 1: I-130 received!
24 August 2005 - Biometrics appointment (Naperville, IL).
25 August 2005 - AOS touched.
29 August 2005 - AP, EAD, I-485 touched.
15 September 2005 - AP and EAD approved!
03 February 2006 - SSN arrives (150 days later)
27 February 2006 - NOA 2: Interview for 27 April!!
27 April 2006 - AOS Interview, approved after 10 minutes!
19 May 2006 - 2 year conditional green card.
01 May 2008 - 10 year green card arrives.
09 December 2012 - Assembled N-400 package.
15 January 2013 - Sent package off to Phoenix.
28 January 2013 - RFE: signature missing.
06 February 2013 - NOA 1: N-400 received!
27 February 2013 - Biometrics appointment (Detroit, MI).
01 April 2013 - NOA 2: Interview assigned.

15 May 2013 - Naturalization Interview, approved after 15 minutes.

10 June 2013 - Naturalized.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Is her Father looking to Sponsor her?

Trying to remember who is the Maven on such matters, I remember it is a Lawyer in CA.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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My grandfather naturalized in the US around 1948. He later moved to Canada, naturalized there, and had five children. They automatically gained Canadian citizenship. My aunt is now interested in exploring whether she can obtain US citizenship by dint of my grandfather's status. Is this possible, and what would she need to do to "activate" that status, if so?

1. She was born in 1957.

2. She was born in Canada, to a Canadian citizen and a US/Canadian/British citizen.

3. She has not claimed any USC status or residency in the US.

4. Her father returned to the US every year for approximately 4-5 months and maintained a domicile there until 2004.

Any other factors needed to be known?

First, she wouldn't technically be "getting" or "activating" citizenship. She either had U.S. citizenship since birth (and didn't know about it), or she didn't. If she has U.S. citizenship, she would simply apply for a U.S. passport (for short term proof), and/or a Certificate of Citizenship (not strictly required, but some people like to have it for permanent proof; you apply for it using N-600).

I am assuming that the aunt's parents were married to each other when she was born? The rules for transmission of U.S. citizenship at birth at that time seems to require that the grandfather had been physically present in the U.S (any time in his life before the aunt was born, in any status, not necessarily continuously) for a total of at least 10 years, including 5 after the age of 14. So you need to figure out whether this (10 years of physical presence) was satisfied. It's hard to tell from the information that you have given. Remember that he must have been present in the U.S. for a number of years as a permanent resident (and possibly other statuses) before he naturalized, so a few more years (that he stayed in the U.S. before he moved to Canada, or when he returned to the U.S. for visits before the aunt was born) are needed to fill up 10 years.

Even if she does satisfy the conditions, the proof of her father's physical presence in the U.S. is probably going to be the hardest part. This was so long ago, so records are probably not easy to get. Plus, even for people proving their child's citizenship now right after they're born, they often have problems from very strict consulate officials on the evidence of the parent's physical presence. For example, for school records, they only count the school year, minus the breaks, as proven physical presence. And other records count for much less. So someone on here said that you should preferably have two years of evidence for every year that is required. Your grandfather's physical presence in the U.S. before your aunt was born is probably cutting close to the 10 years, so it may be difficult.

But, it varies from officer to officer, so if she qualifies, she should go ahead and try her luck. Department of State (where she applies for a passport) and USCIS (where she applies for a Certificate of Citizenship) are two separate agencies, so that increases the chances she will succeed in at least one.

You can check the requirements for Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA).

You can't get CRBA after the child is 18.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration to US Citizenship Discussion.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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