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I couldn't be bothered to find the original interview thread... :lol:

I didn't succeed in getting that job....the interview was very pleasant tho' and I thought I did ok....the only gripe I had with the whole interview, and I don't think this was the reason I didn't get offered the job, was they asked me directly if I had children and what my 'childcare provisions' were if I was offered the position. It isn't the first time I have faced with this question and it isn't the first time I changelled the question....and I was polite but I can never ignore it y'know :lol: I mean, if I didn't have my childcare in place I wouldn't be applying for the job, and if I was a man would they even ask?? ( I didn't say about the 'man' thing :D )

Anyway....I dust myself down and carry on.... :D

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Denmark
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that's the crappy thing about finding the right job when you have kids. (and you're a woman) It's like they don't think that you would have child care lined up already.

my boss is my brother.. and at one point he yelled at me saying that "most women" who had kids took them to a babysitter when the kids were sick. I politely asked him for the name and number of a babysitter that will take sick kids.


March 4, 2004 NOA 1

June 29, 2004 NOA 2

August 26th -- interview date - we need to complete a I-601 waiver so it's back to waiting again

January 6, 2005 i-601 waiver approved!!!!

January 21, 2005 VISA IN HAND

February 12, 2005 WEDDING!!!!!

March 10, 2005 mailed AOS and EAD applications to Chicago

April 18, 2005 EAD and AOS receipt dates for NOA

June 30, 2005 AOS RFE evidence submitted (translated birth certificate)

August 10, 2005 ---EAD approved via infopass appointment

October 18, 2005 - AOS interview in St. Louis - received an RFE for vaccination supplement

February 9, 2006 - denial for AOS letter due to the wrong form being submitted from the doctor. PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!!

February 16, 2006 - USCIS accepts the motion to reopen without an additional fee - finally something goes right! We should hear from USCIS St. Louis office within 2 weeks.

April 3, 2006 - Received welcome to America letter in the mail!

April 8, 2006 - Received GC in the mail - done for 2 years!!!!

March 1, 2008 - mailed off I-751

March 3, 2008 NSC delivery confirmation

March 10, 2008 NOA 1

March 28, 2008 Biometrics appointment

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welshie... well in my humble opinion... THEY are missing out! you will find a better job! grrrrrrrrrr, that irritates me too when they ask those questions... i can see both sides... but like you, if i didn't have the child care in place... i wouldn't have been there!

Wishing you alllllllllllllllll the best! You deserve it! Good luck! *still gonna send you MOJO for other job opportunities*

*hugs*

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i came back to add *hugs* sorry you didn't get it!!! better luck next time!


March 4, 2004 NOA 1

June 29, 2004 NOA 2

August 26th -- interview date - we need to complete a I-601 waiver so it's back to waiting again

January 6, 2005 i-601 waiver approved!!!!

January 21, 2005 VISA IN HAND

February 12, 2005 WEDDING!!!!!

March 10, 2005 mailed AOS and EAD applications to Chicago

April 18, 2005 EAD and AOS receipt dates for NOA

June 30, 2005 AOS RFE evidence submitted (translated birth certificate)

August 10, 2005 ---EAD approved via infopass appointment

October 18, 2005 - AOS interview in St. Louis - received an RFE for vaccination supplement

February 9, 2006 - denial for AOS letter due to the wrong form being submitted from the doctor. PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!!

February 16, 2006 - USCIS accepts the motion to reopen without an additional fee - finally something goes right! We should hear from USCIS St. Louis office within 2 weeks.

April 3, 2006 - Received welcome to America letter in the mail!

April 8, 2006 - Received GC in the mail - done for 2 years!!!!

March 1, 2008 - mailed off I-751

March 3, 2008 NSC delivery confirmation

March 10, 2008 NOA 1

March 28, 2008 Biometrics appointment

Legal Permanent Resident - just waiting for time to pass for him to have eligibility for citizenship.

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If that's their attitude then you don't want to work for them anyway. They know as well as you do that they're not allowed to ask those questions and good for you for not answering them.

There'll be a better job :)

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Sorry to hear that it did not work out. I know you will find a good job in time. Keep looking and you will be blessed in time.

Mary


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Sorry you didn't get the job Welshy...

But the reason alot of places can ask this, and as far as I know it's not "wrong" or illegal to ask them, as long as they don't discriminate against all women who has kids... is because there's mother's out there that take advantage of this alot.

I've seen it in action, so I know they do. Yes, being a single parent, I understand that it's hard some times to find someone to watch a sick kid. That's a fact of life. But I know some women will not even try to find alternating child care, just so they can get a day off from work.. or worse, lie about the whole thing to begin with.

And why don't they ask the men? There's not many father's in a normal family (husband/wife/kid) that would be the one staying home with a sick kid. And then there's not many single parent father's out there, like me. The couple of single fathers out there that I know of have never had to take off from work due to a sick child. Could be a number of factors, and I'm sure that there ARE some that do call off of work.

As with most things, companies are doing this because of their past experiences. It's unfortunate, but it happens.


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It is illegal here to ask if you have children in an interview.


*January 24 2006 - mailed in I129-F petition

*January 25 2006 - I129-F received at CSC

*January 30 2006 - packet returned.....arggggggggg we forgot one signature!!

*January 31 2006 - sent I129-F back to the CSC, hope we did not forget anything else

*February 1 2006 - I129-F received at CSC again

*February 3 2006 - NOA1

*April 20 2006 - NOA2!!!!!

*April 24 2006 - Touched!

*May 15 2006 - NVC received petition today!

*May 17 2006 - Case left NVC today!!

*May 30 2006 - Received Packet 3 from Vancouver!

*May 30 2006 - Faxed back Packet 3!!

*June 6 2006 - Received packet 4!

*June 20 2006 - Medical in Saskatoon

*June 28 2006 - Interview in Vancouver!!

*June 28 2006 - GOT THE VISA!!!*June 30 2006 - Moving day!

*July 3 2006 - Home at last!!

*July 28 2006 - married!

*September 13 2006 - Mailed AOS/EAD package

*September 25 2006 - Received NOA for AOS/EAD

*October 6 2006 - Biometrics appointments

*October 10 2006 - Touched!

*October 19 2006 - Transferred to CSC!

*October 26 2006 - Received by CSC

*October 27 2006 - Touched

*October 28 2006 - Touched again

*October 31 2006 - Touched again

*November 2 2006 - Touched again

*November 3 2006- and another touch

*November 7 2006- touched

*November 7 2006 - My case approved, still waiting for kids!

*November 8 2006 - Touched my case again

*November 13 2006 - Greencard arrived...yeah I can work!

*November 14 2006 - Touched my case again

*January 2007 - RFE for kids Greencard.

*February 2007 - kids medical and sent in RFE

*February 2007 - Received kids greencards

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I cannot say one way or the other the reason why I didn't get the job. I do however know they shouldn't have been asking me if I had children and then enquire about my childcare provision. Regardless of their expericences of hiring single/ mothers etc the truth is they would not ask a man the same questions therefore they demonstrated discrimination. I certainly don't think the way I responded cost me the job as I thought I was very diplomatic in voicing my objection... :whistle: I certainly will again cos as far as I am concerned it is just as bad as being back in the 50's and being asked if your husband thinks it's ok for you to have a job ;)

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....the only gripe I had with the whole interview, and I don't think this was the reason I didn't get offered the job, was they asked me directly if I had children and what my 'childcare provisions' were if I was offered the position.

That's a question I wouldn't dare ask in an interview. It doesn't in any way, shape or form pertain to the job in question. All the interviewer is entitled to quiz you on is your ability to meet the attendance requirements. Period.

Don't answer that kind of stuff. If asked such nonsense again, tell an interviewer politely: "I will pretend that you didn't ask this question. However, if there is a concern about my ability to meet the company's attendance requirements, let me assure you that I will report to work as scheduled as I have done in previous positions. There has never been an attendance problem with any previous employer and I intent to keep it that way.

Truth be told, the fact that you even have kids has no place in the interview either. :no:

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Never mind sweetie - always another, better job right around the corner

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Met online 2001 - just aquaintances

Sept 2002 - 1st US visit - everything goes perfectly.

Dec 20th - Forms recev'd at CSC

Dec 27th - NOA1 received by snail mail!

Dec 29th - 'Touched'

March 10 2006 - NOA2!

March 23 - recv'd at NVC

March 24 - petition sent to London

April 9th - Pkt 3 rec'd!

May 17th - Pkt 3 signed for at London Embassy

May 24th - Medical

May24th - Pkt 4

June 14th - Interview 10am - APPROVED 1pm!!

June 16th - Visas received in my hot little hands 1pm :)

July 19th - flying to US!

July 27th - Married!! :-)

Aug 7th - Applied for SSN in married name

Aug 9th - SSN received

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Awww...so sorry you didnt get the job. My fingers are crossed for you next time :) HUGS!

I know how it feels to be discriminated. I also think that it is not fair to ask these questions to women. Inface once a women is pregnant they decide she is not worth hiring. That is not fair. As it is in USA they give on 6 weeks off legally to new moms. I think companies should see the person's abilities and not the sex or her status (maried or single) as a criteria. If women get lazy and tend to take the day off when a child is sick then men fall sick more often and also they are more lazier than women.

Anyway it is the company's loss and not yours.

good luck

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Sorry you didnt get the job.

Keep trying, you will land one :yes:


PEGGY & ROGER

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Still waiting for our cards...Had to file I-90 as they sent them to the wrong address.

March 9th, 2010, Received GC that has been lost in the mail for 10 months. Still waiting for my son's that is lost as well.

Filed Waiver for my son's 10 year GC and it was approved. He finally received his GC after its been missing for 2 years.

Thanking God this is over for 10 years.

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