Where to file fraud report and annulment info

[duped 0]

Hello all. I tried a search but could not find a topic on where to file the fraud report. I exposed my wife's scam a few weeks ago. I filed for annulment based on fraud. Prior to filing for annulment, I went to the local USCIS office, which showed little interest and reluctantly took a copy of my detailed fraud report. The local USCIS officer walked me upstairs to the ICE office where two officers said the same thing echoed in these threads: ICE does not investigate individual cases of fraud and that the "wife" will file a VAWA petition (according to them 70% successful). When I mentioned that I would file for an annulment based on fraud in the inducement, they were surprised apparently not knowing what it was.

The Embassy abroad started a criminal investigation. However, I do not know where to submit the evidence and Petition for annulment so it will be read. US Attorney's office? National Service Center?

Edited February 9, 2013 by duped

[Newbie608 103]

Would you mind sharing details of the fraud? How are you just finding out? I'm just curious.

[Boiler 45,659]

Just glance down below for ICE contact info, but sounds like you have.

The Consulate can not conduct a criminal case in a foreign country, that would be down to local law enforcement.

Also interested in the evidence you have.

[duped 0]

Any thoughts regarding getting the information to be meaningfully reviewed would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[TBoneTX 45,498]

Have you consulted the immigration liaison in your U.S. Congressman or Senator's office? They might be able to guide you.

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

Send one copy to ICE (name the people you talked to on the envelope if you took names), and one copy to the local embassy if the beneficiary has gone home/ you think they may go home. Do the same if you actually get the annulment. Honestly, since they alreayd have a copy of your file, and I doubt there is much more since you gave it to them, I doubt there is much point sending in evidence of the annulment filing now. BUT if you are granted one on the basis of fraud, that would mean US judge agrees it is fraud and that should make ICE pay attention.

[duped 0]

Send one copy to ICE (name the people you talked to on the envelope if you took names), and one copy to the local embassy if the beneficiary has gone home/ you think they may go home. Do the same if you actually get the annulment. Honestly, since they alreayd have a copy of your file, and I doubt there is much more since you gave it to them, I doubt there is much point sending in evidence of the annulment filing now. BUT if you are granted one on the basis of fraud, that would mean US judge agrees it is fraud and that should make ICE pay attention.

Thank you Penguin.

Have you consulted the immigration liaison in your U.S. Congressman or Senator's office? They might be able to guide you.

Thank you.

Edited February 9, 2013 by duped

[Villanelle 4,122]

Im really confused about this whole thing.

Im not really sure how the embassy would fit into a potential VAWA claim? Who you would contact would depend on what happened or hasnt happened yet.

VAWA is a way for an alien to adjust status with out the support of the USC because the alien is a victim of abuse. (or claims to be)

So if they advised you your wife will most likely file a VAWA claim, it means your wife is probably in the US. She either came on a K1 or a student/work visa, but most likely the K1.

When you actually have the annulment you can bring it in to the service center along with a letter and whatever other evidence you want added to her case file in case she attempts a VAWA claim. A petition for an annulment is worthless. It just means you petitioned for it. You can petition for anything you want. Doesnt mean it has any basis.

If you dont want to bring the letter in in person you can mail it in, as long as it gets attached to her A# is all that matters.

Since you already have a contact with ICE (the people you already spoke to) when you have the annulment, send them a copy as well. But like youve been advised. They do not investigate individual cases of fraud, so theyre not going to do much with it, even if the annulment states it was granted on the basis of fraud. SO you make sure it gets attached to her A# with USCIS yourself.

[Brian1967## 119]

Capri I got to ask what good would all of this mans efforts according to most folks ICE does not take anything a USC has to say seriously. They just push usurp the side I guess looking for the big fish or the smuggling rings what makes this mans claim less important than any other? I just thinking outloud that he should send all evidence. I think a American spouse should have this right especially for a VAWA claim. There sectors of sites that women coach other women on how to stick to a USC(www.russian finance.com) has many members that talk in the open about this, they even brag about what they screwed the USC out of and laugh there is nothing funny. Depending on where this guy lives he cannot file a annulment maybe the laws are to narrow for this so it might be impossible. But really ice should care, I mean do they service the us tax payer or cater to abusive advantage taking spouse that want to bleed an American dry. The whole immigration system is broken including ice...btw each USCIS office has fraud officers assigned Thucydides near my house has 10 of them. Fraud claims are not criminal but civil so there are shades of grey and all I ever read

[Brian1967## 119]

Hear is how ice looks for a email that says " I am committing fraud" modern day women from any country would never write this or say, they have been cashed really very well by the collector have done it already. Btw Capri your insights are great:)

[Brian1967## 119]

man I hate virtual keyboards sorry for the typos

[Boiler 45,659]

Congress makes the rules.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Congress makes the rules.

Yep. The benefit of the doubt goes to the victim. OP is screwed, protect what you can. It doesn't look good.

[Brian1967## 119]

Nope file for divorce first bro. Then you get totally your story first. Get out fast luck your wounds and try to move on. This situation is sad

[Villanelle 4,122]

ruth-

ICE is basically the police of Immigration. And just like any police department, different people have different jobs. Some people do clerical work, some people are just the muscle, and some people do investigative work. The people that do investigative work do not investigate individual cases of fraud. Why? as Boiler so simply put it "Congress makes the rules."

In this case, I agree with Congress. Now you can disagree and contact Congress and ask for it to be changed. But Ive thought about this as Im sure Congress has. While it might be in the single taxpayers interest (the one who is the victim of the fraud) to have ICE investigate, it is not in the interest of taxpayers as a whole to have ICE investigators investigate single cases of fraud. (esp when there is another agency that can investigate it- the USCIS)

Now follow me here- Congress changes the law. They allow ICE to investigate single cases of fraud. They go so far to create a dept to handle single cases of fraud. What do you think is going to happen? Every single time a USC divorces a LPR the first words out of their mouth is- I want them deported!!! Outrage! Fraud! Im contacting ICE! The dept is going to be flooded with FALSE claims of fraud by disgruntled USC spouses. That is going to put a huge unfair burden on the taxpayers.

Currently USCIS will discover individual cases of fraud. Either through their own investigation or because it was reported to them. When USCIS makes a ruling of fraud, they alert their 'muscle' ICE. ICE will then step in because USCIS found you guilty.

So for the OPs situation in this thread. ICE are not the 'detectives' USCIS are the 'detectives'. He wants his evidence to go to USCIS. If they decide its actionable they will take action on it. Their action will be- this is fraud, we want so and so arrested/deported/brought in to immigration court and have ICE do so. (it would be an extremely rare case for ICE to act as detectives-not saying it cant happen, just that it would be extremely rare.)