Please Guide Me what can I do to provided proof of U.S. domicile In this situation.Please

[imranjenny 1]

Checklist for I-864 (filed by KARWAL, JEANNIE KAY)

NVC has reviewed the financial evidence submitted. However, additional information is

required to complete the financial evidence review. The checklist below indicates missing or

incomplete documents. In order to make corrections you will need to download a new form at

www.ImmigrantVisas.state.gov. You will need to complete and submit a new form with the

changes noted below. Please provide all requested documents and refer to page two for mailing

instructions.

[x] The (sponsor) has not provided proof of U.S. domicile.

[PAH 06/11/2012]

I am petitioner Jeannie (US citizen).Today I got an email from NVC written above.

1:- I am living with my husband in Pakistan since 4th June 2010, Two years two months now. My mailing address on papers that we applied for Petition I-130 and NVC is in Pakistan.

2:- We married in 21st July 2011, we applied for spouse IR1 visa and our priority date is 5th January 2012.

3:-I sent them AOS with joint sponsor and got this email.

Thing I have with me.

1:- I have driving license expired on 22nd February 2012 from North Carolina.

2:-Valid US passport till 2020.

3:-Social security card.

4:-Health insurance card from McDonalds (blue cross blue shield), I worked in McDonalds till 11th April 2010.Expired

5:-visa debit card good through 2/2010

6:- wood forest national bank debet master card valid through 06/12

7:- one of the check stub from McDonalds.

8:- Temporary family visa in Pakistan Valid till 12th September 2012

9:- Birth certificate.

Things I don’t have.

1:- No money in any bank in USA,

2:-Don’t know about my voting registration,

3:-no property, no house, no apartment, no car or any insurance in USA.

4:-No bank statement or any account.

Family in USA.

4 kids (girl 21 years old, boy 19 years old, boy 18 years old, girl 16 years old) living with my X husband.

My mom and my step dad, willing to send me anything I need .They have their own house in IOWA Atlantic. Step dad is retired from marine and mom is on disability.

2 good Friends in New York and Joint sponsor in new hemisphere.

Please Guide Me what can I do to provided proof of U.S. domicile In this situation.Please

[JNEKG 4]

This seems very strange to me. Seems like yore gave more than enough evidence to prove domicile. My husband (USC) has never lived in the US for more than 6 months and we were able to prove domicile.

What address did you put on I864?

Did you add a cover letter written by you explaining the situation?

We had to prove re-establishment of domicile but it appears you have enough ties to the US to prove your return. Where will you reside upon your return?

Perhaps it's best to get on the phone and speak to a supervisor at NVC. I am sure if they look at what you provided they will be able to tell you what else you need.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. All the best.

Edited June 12, 2012 by JNEKG

[jhm3 15]

It looks like most of the evidence of ties to the US that you submitted shows that you used to live there, but it doesn't establish that you are currently domiciled in the United States. Indeed, if you have been living in Pakistan for more than two years without maintaining a US residence, your current place of domicile would be Pakistan. Since you are not currently domiciled in the United States, what you need to show for the purposes of filing an immigration petition is show "that [you have] taken steps to establish a domicile in the United States" or "that [you have] either already taken up physical residence in the United States or will do so concurrently with the applicant." (This guidance is taken from the relevant section of the Foreign Affairs Manual (FAM), which provides guidance to State Department officers who deal with consular affairs.) It's that last bit that is likely to be most useful to you -- it means you don't actually have to be living in the United States now, but you do need to be able to show that you are taking steps towards establishing a residence and that you and your husband will be moving there together.

The FAM lists several kinds of evidence that would show that an applicant is taking steps to establish residence in the US. These include:

(1) Opening a bank account;

(2) Transferring funds to the United States;

(3) Making investments in the United States;

(4) Seeking employment in the United States;

(5) Registering children in U.S. schools;

(6) Applying for a Social Security number; and

(7) Voting in local, State, or Federal elections.

To see the relevant text from the FAM in full, go to http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86988.pdf, and scroll down to this section: "9 FAM 40.41 N6.1-2 Establishing U.S. Domicile"

[imranjenny 1]

Is it possible that they are asking about the sponser to prove us domicile or they are talking about me the petitioner or joint sponser.

[USAYemen 2]

My fiance handed in my voter registration card, bank account from 2 different banks and my tax return and they still wanted proof I was domiciled in the US. The officer requested he bring in a rental agreement. I live with my parents and we own our home. We cant provide the deed since it stays at the bank due to the fact we have a loan on it. We handed in some sort of paper that stated this person bought this home from this person for this amount....and so on. The embassy accepted it. Good luck!

[pushbrk 13,926]

Is it possible that they are asking about the sponser to prove us domicile or they are talking about me the petitioner or joint sponser.

It's possible they are asking about either or both. You can show you have taken steps to establish a new domicile in the USA. Nothing on your list shows that. It's all about how you used to live in the USA.

The joint sponsor should provide evidence of US Citizenship or LPR status AND must show evidence of CURRENT domicile in the USA. Something like a tax return with a US address or even a utility bill in their name would do that.

If the petitioner has not taken any steps to re-establish domicile, that can be accomplished as easily as with a letter from a relative indicating you intend to live in their home until you are more situated. Pretty simple stuff but not to be ignored.

Edited June 13, 2012 by pushbrk

[bsd058 296]

The US petitioner must prove US domicile. They have to show that they have a job lined up or something proving that they are moving back to the US. Otherwise, if the CR-1 visa is issued, then the immigrant can get the green card without the US spouse coming to the US without them. What kind of family is that? A fraudulent one most likely. Not passing judgement. Just think that this is how USCIS sees it. You must show that you have some tie to the US. Even something like a rental agreement or letter of intent from a new employer. Anything showing that you are intending to move back to the US.

[imranjenny 1]

How we can take steps to show ties?Is it possible that we can make a rental agreement while we are out side of the USA.Last night I called NVC they say that show that you have residence there and bank account.Is it possible that i can have rental agreement while i am in pakistan and can we open an account while we are outside usa.We been searching jobs but no good progress.Please guide according to my situation.Should i go back to usa and make a rental agreement and open an account and do any job.Or is it possible that i can manage without going back .Please give me an expert openion.I already mantioned that my driving licence expired.my bank account expired and no document to show.Please guide still we could not do any thing.

[pushbrk 13,926]

How we can take steps to show ties?Is it possible that we can make a rental agreement while we are out side of the USA.Last night I called NVC they say that show that you have residence there and bank account.Is it possible that i can have rental agreement while i am in pakistan and can we open an account while we are outside usa.We been searching jobs but no good progress.Please guide according to my situation.Should i go back to usa and make a rental agreement and open an account and do any job.Or is it possible that i can manage without going back .Please give me an expert openion.I already mantioned that my driving licence expired.my bank account expired and no document to show.Please guide still we could not do any thing.

I answered you completely in my post above with regard to your own domicile issue and that of the joint sponsor.

[JNEKG 4]

How we can take steps to show ties?Is it possible that we can make a rental agreement while we are out side of the USA.Last night I called NVC they say that show that you have residence there and bank account.Is it possible that i can have rental agreement while i am in pakistan and can we open an account while we are outside usa.We been searching jobs but no good progress.Please guide according to my situation.Should i go back to usa and make a rental agreement and open an account and do any job.Or is it possible that i can manage without going back .Please give me an expert openion.I already mantioned that my driving licence expired.my bank account expired and no document to show.Please guide still we could not do any thing.

Like pushbrk has said, you need to show you are trying to reestablish domicile. Here are some suggestions:

1. Get a family member or friend to write a letter stating you will reside with them upon your return until you find your own place

2. Register to vote (which you can do abroad)

3. Open a bank account (or at least attempt to) from OS. Or better still, if you still have a bank account but no card attached to it, transfer USD funds to that account.

Failing these things, you may need to return prior to your husband. Then this domicile issue will be closed.

Best of luck.

[pushbrk 13,926]

Like pushbrk has said, you need to show you are trying to reestablish domicile. Here are some suggestions:

1. Get a family member or friend to write a letter stating you will reside with them upon your return until you find your own place

2. Register to vote (which you can do abroad)

3. Open a bank account (or at least attempt to) from OS. Or better still, if you still have a bank account but no card attached to it, transfer USD funds to that account.

Failing these things, you may need to return prior to your husband. Then this domicile issue will be closed.

Best of luck.

I'll add that open bank accounts don't expire, even if the debit cards associated with them do. If there's money in the account, you can print a statement from the bank's website as evidence the account is still open. It would be helpful if there was more than a token amount of money in the account.

[imranjenny 1]

Do i need to send real driving licence or photocopy

[pushbrk 13,926]

Do i need to send real driving licence or photocopy

A photocopy of an unexpired driver license would be one form of evidence to send but not enough on its own. Do not send original documents as evidence of domicile.

[imranjenny 1]

Thanks Alot Thanks Alot For kindness and guidence.May you live long.

[bsd058 296]

How we can take steps to show ties?Is it possible that we can make a rental agreement while we are out side of the USA.Last night I called NVC they say that show that you have residence there and bank account.Is it possible that i can have rental agreement while i am in pakistan and can we open an account while we are outside usa.We been searching jobs but no good progress.Please guide according to my situation.Should i go back to usa and make a rental agreement and open an account and do any job.Or is it possible that i can manage without going back .Please give me an expert openion.I already mantioned that my driving licence expired.my bank account expired and no document to show.Please guide still we could not do any thing.

Hi.

Yes it is possible to sign a rental agreement while outside of the US. My wife and I are doing it right now from Canada. We're looking into setting a bank account up, but I don't know if we can. We might catch a lucky break and be able to use her checking account. She forgot to close it and there was no monthly fee, so she just kept it open in the US. But you should be anle to get a rental agreement. Just call a realtor in the US and ask them to send you rental listings via email. They can get you in touch with the listing agent and you can work out the financials from your home country. You might be able to pay the deposit and first month's rent via US money order or by wiring the money to them.

I would call a bank in the UIS to see if you can open one up. If you are an American citizen and have an SSN, it might be possible. However, due to AML laws some banks might be required to see you in person. Check with your consulate about how people do this, too. They might be able to give you advice.

Good luck!