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IF someone is coming to the U.S for the first time on an immigrant based visa, can their POE be in London? The flight we are looking at is from Karachi to London and than to Raleigh, NC. I don't think you can have a POE in Raleigh? Can the POE be done in London?

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Poe is point of entry (as in... point of entry into the u.s.) london does not do us customs/poe/boarder patrol... the poe would be in raleigh. I think the only plaace that i know of that clears u.s. customs outside us territory is ireland (shannon and dublin airports do a pre clearance) that may be wrong.. others MIGHT do it too but im 100% that london does not. Any international airpot to the u.s. does their own poe though so im not sure who said tha raleigh doesnt but any airport with a flight from london would have a customs/poe/border patrol clearance to get into the u.s.


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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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IF someone is coming to the U.S for the first time on an immigrant based visa, can their POE be in London? The flight we are looking at is from Karachi to London and than to Raleigh, NC. I don't think you can have a POE in Raleigh? Can the POE be done in London?

I am pretty sure Raleigh will be your POE. http://www.visajourney.com/reviews/poereviews.php?poe=Raleigh-Durham&dfilter=0

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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Poe is point of entry (as in... point of entry into the u.s.) london does not do us customs/poe/boarder patrol... the poe would be in raleigh. I think the only plaace that i know of that clears u.s. customs outside us territory is ireland (shannon and dublin airports do a pre clearance) that may be wrong.. others MIGHT do it too but im 100% that london does not. Any international airpot to the u.s. does their own poe though so im not sure who said tha raleigh doesnt but any airport with a flight from london would have a customs/poe/border patrol clearance to get into the u.s.

Not just Shannon and Dublin. Someone recently had a Bahamas POE. My POE will be Toronto. There are other ports too.

Oh, and POE is port of entry. London, as far as I know, wouldn't be a POE though.


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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Can the POE be done in London?

No

The POE will be the first airport that you arrive at in the US. If Raleigh is the first airport you arrive at in the US, POE procedures will be conducted there.

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No

The POE will be the first airport that you arrive at in the US. If Raleigh is the first airport you arrive at in the US, POE procedures will be conducted there.

Moving from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

This isn't correct. Certain international airports outside of the U.S. pre-screen you before the flight, so the POE would be in that facility (some airports in Canada, Bahamas, and Ireland). But not London as far as I know.

IF someone is coming to the U.S for the first time on an immigrant based visa, can their POE be in London? The flight we are looking at is from Karachi to London and than to Raleigh, NC. I don't think you can have a POE in Raleigh? Can the POE be done in London?

RDU is an international airport so why do you think POE can't be there?

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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This isn't correct. Certain international airports outside of the U.S. pre-screen you before the flight, so the POE would be in that facility (some airports in Canada, Bahamas, and Ireland). But not London as far as I know.

I am well aware of CBP preclearance facilities in Canada, the Bahamas, and Ireland. My response to the OP was specific to the question about London (which does not have a CBP preclearance facility) so I stand by my response.

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Not just Shannon and Dublin. Someone recently had a Bahamas POE. My POE will be Toronto. There are other ports too.

Oh, and POE is port of entry. London, as far as I know, wouldn't be a POE though.

Right Port, sorry, it was late when I was writing.. and I did say that some other places besides Shannon and Dublin might do it but I wasn't sure.

However, I know for sure that London DOES NOT do pre-clearance as my husband lives near London and travels through varies London airports to the U.S. to visit often, and he never goes through customs until landing in the U.S. -- he doesn't have the option to go through early screening.

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Met in Manchester, England: October 20, 2010 to Oct 25, 2010

"Officially" became a couple: November 25, 2010

New Years together in England: Dec 26, 2010 to Jan 2, 2011

Visit to meet my family: February 19, 2011 to February 26, 2011

Visit to spend Easter/Spring Break together: April 16, 2011 to April 30, 2011

Spent the summer together in New York: June 23, 2011 to August 1, 2011

Came to visit just after my birthday: October 13, 2011 to October 23, 2011

Officially Announced Our Engagement: November 30, 2011

Trip to NY for New Years: December 27, 2011 to January 9, 2012

Wedding Day: January 4th, 2012

Trip to England & Italy for Valentine's Day: February 10, 2012 to February 20, 2012

Visit to NY for our 2 year dating anniversary: June 20th, 2012 to July 4th, 2012

Timeline

USCIS

01/08/2012: I-130 Sent from NY

01/11/2012: USPS Delivery Confirmation

01/12/2012: NOA1 E-mail & Text

XX/XX/2012: NOA2 E-mail & Text(STILL waitinggg... Ahhh!)

NVC

XX/XX/2012: NVC received

XX/XX/2012: Case number/IIN

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 sent

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 accepted

XX/XX/2012: AOS Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: AOS Package sent

XX/XX/2012: IV Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: IV Package sent

XX/XX/2012: Case complete at NVC

XX/XX/2012: Interview scheduled (Interview Date: XX/XX/2012)

US Embassy London

XX/XX/2012: Embassy received

XX/XX/2012: Medical

XX/XX/2012: Interview

XX/XX/2012: Visa

XX/XX/2012: POE Boston

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Filed: Other Country: China
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RDU is an international airport so why do you think POE can't be there?

RDU "can be" the POE but will not be unless it is the first place the plane lands in the USA. POE is first place the plane lands in USA, unless pre-screened outside the USA. London is not a POE.


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RDU "can be" the POE but will not be unless it is the first place the plane lands in the USA. POE is first place the plane lands in USA, unless pre-screened outside the USA. London is not a POE.

Why are you correcting me--OP indicated that the plane is going from London to Raleigh, so RDU will be the first place the plane lands in the U.S. I was simply asking why OP had stated that RDU could not be a POE.

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Why are you correcting me--OP indicated that the plane is going from London to Raleigh, so RDU will be the first place the plane lands in the U.S. I was simply asking why OP had stated that RDU could not be a POE.

Not really correcting you, just adding an important concept to the discussion. I don't always assume people know what they are talking about, so did not assume RDU was definitely the first US airport, though it certainly CAN be and WILL be if it's a non-stop flight from London.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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American Airlines flies direct.


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Filed: Other Country: China
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American Airlines flies direct.

They also fly non-stop. "Direct" means same plane but may or may not be non-stop. Changing planes is a "connection". Either way, the OP was not absolutely clear the flight was non-stop London to RDU.


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They also fly non-stop. "Direct" means same plane but may or may not be non-stop. Changing planes is a "connection". Either way, the OP was not absolutely clear the flight was non-stop London to RDU.

You're right. I think it was clear that the OP was referring to a non-stop flight, but I suppose it's possible that he wasn't. In any case, everyone gets the gist and no need to split any more hairs.

The American route is non-stop, which is somewhat surprising I guess. They will also send you via JFK and LGA. It would be terrible to have to POE in JFK only to have get in a car or bus to catch a flight at LGA, so I hope that's not what OP is doing.

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Correcting the corrections.

Dublin doesn't do pre-clearance. It's full stop customs and immigration.


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