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DREAM Act: An Amnesty Nightmare

by Roger Hedgecock

11/27/2010

Just in time to avoid the traditional Thanksgiving turkey dinner, students at the University of Texas, Austin, staged a hunger strike to support Congressional approval of the DREAM Act. Student activists want you to believe that they are taking a stand for "fairness" and "justice" But the DREAM Act is a turkey designed to amnesty most illegals and force you to subsidize their U.S. college education.

The DREAM Act is Harry Reid's payoff to open border advocates who rounded up the illegal alien vote to help Harry in his squeaker win in Nevada. The DREAM Act was introduced in the lame duck session and is pending congressional votes next week.

Unable to get congressional approval for "comprehensive immigration reform" (general amnesty), Obama and Reid proposed the DREAM Act (Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act) to transform "undocumented Democrats" into legal voters.

Under the DREAM Act, any person under the age of 35 illegally present in the U.S. (90% of all illegals?), could apply for lawful permanent resident (LPR) status if they have graduated from high school or earned a GED and have been admitted to an "institution of higher education". The illegal is required to complete at least 2 years of a bachelor's degree within 8 years regardless of whether or not any degree has been earned.

An "institution of higher education" can include a community college or a vocational college which "provides not less than a one year program of training to prepare students for gainful employment".

This process does not affect "anchor babies" who are deemed citizens even though born to parents illegally in the U.S. "Anchor baby" students already get all the benefits of U.S. citizenship. The DREAM Act only covers those who are themselves illegally present in the U.S. and grants full citizenship to LPR status students when they fulfill the 2 year requirement.

For illegal alien students unable to complete the 2 year requirement within the 8 years, the feds can waive the requirement altogether if the alien demonstrates that their deportation would work a hardship to themselves, or their LPR spouse, child, or parent.

If an application under the DREAM Act is denied for any reason, the bill prohibits federal immigration authorities from using the information gained in the application process to deport the illegal alien.

Once LPR status is granted, the illegal qualifies for "in state" tuition in the state of their residence, and federal student assistance under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965 including student loans, federal work-study programs, and tutoring and counseling.

Advocates of the DREAM Act say that these students were brought here illegally as young children, that their parents' actions should not be held against them, and that in the long run, it would be better to see these young people who were brought up as Americans educated in America.

Opponents of the DREAM Act counter that a legal "path to citizenship" is already open to these "students" (35 years old?), that DREAM Act legalization rewards their illegal presence in the country while applicants to legal entry wait in line, and that "in state" tuition puts the illegal student ahead of American citizen students from out of state.

With every college and university in the country strapped for money and raising fees and tuition, is now the time to add millions of new students to American campuses with the additional strain on scholarship and federal loans and assistance programs already running out of money ?

The more you read the DREAM Act, the worse it gets.

Current federal immigration law gives the right to naturalized citizens to immigrate relatives ("family reunion") without regard to numerical caps. Those who receive amnesty under the DREAM Act could legalize family members--including their illegal alien parents and siblings--setting off a chain reaction of immigration.

Astoundingly, the DREAM Act specifically allows criminal aliens to apply for this "student" amnesty. Aliens who have engaged in voter fraud, have ignored deportation orders, have falsely claimed U.S. citizenship, have committed marriage fraud, have overstayed their student visas, even those who pose a public health risk--all are eligible for the "student" amnesty of the DREAM Act.

Even the act of applying for the DREAM Act amnesty gives you immediate amnesty. Applicants cannot be deported while an application is pending no matter how frivolous the application is. Criminal aliens will learn quickly enough that this application is yet another way to delay deportation.

DREAM Act supporters also point to provisions which allow illegals, as an alternative to the college requirements, to earn U.S. citizenship by serving in the U.S. military. Not quite. The Act does not require enlistment in the armed forces, only in the "uniformed services", and only for 2 years. This broader term includes the Public Health Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

The "U.S. military" argument for enacting the DREAM Act is bogus for another reason. Illegals are already allowed to enlist in the military and earn citizenship. Many do and are a credit to themselves and to the country. They don't need the DREAM Act.

Once again, as in health care "reform" and financial services "reform", the Obama regime seeks to mislead the public by masking the reality the public opposes (amnesty for illegals) with soothing lies about helping poor "students".

Allowing voted-out congress members to enact this travesty in the lame duck session adds insult to injury. Defeat the DREAM Act nightmare.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40220

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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SO the "M" in dream is for Minors right? How does someone who is 35 qualify as a minor?

that's some real strong apron strings!

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

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Filed: Country: Belarus
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DREAM Act: An Amnesty Nightmare

...the Obama regime seeks to mislead the public by masking the reality the public opposes (amnesty for illegals) with soothing lies about helping poor "students".

SO the "M" in dream is for Minors right? How does someone who is 35 qualify as a minor?

The above line from the article should answer your question.

It's another deceptive open ended mass blanket illegal alien amnesty with no quotas or numerical caps. More open borders, ethnic pandering lunacy from the usual assclowns.

Edited by peejay

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: Country: Belarus
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The Dream ACT died November 2. About 8:22 pm.

According to some in the media, Reid & Pelosi have plans to resurrect it in the lame duck session to appease the ethnic pimping / illegal alien cheerleading groups that habitually support the Left. I realize it has a slim to none chance of passing after the umpteenth attempt, but even sleazier bills have been sneaked through in the dead of night.

Yes...the people spoke on November 2, but that won't stop the lunatic fringe from getting their licks in while they can. It is important for the public to be educated and informed. Otherwise yet another amnesty is shoved up our arses under the radar and in the dark of night.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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DREAM Act is a joke and it is not going to pass, America is sick of illegal aliens breaking our immigration laws, we need to do away with citizenship granted to anyone born in USA, they must have legal US parents as citizens or one parent as legal US citizen, otherwise they are out of status and up for deportation. I think you will see that law changed or an amendment to the US Constitution soon, should have been done long ago. Curious though, why is it all these hispanic or latino or mexican congressmen or women are always the ones pushing for amnesty or promoting illegal immigration? Why is it if they are US citizens and patriotic they do nothing but try to tear apart the USA or destroy and all immigration laws that pertain to them? Do we see a pattern here anyone? :whistle:

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Another form of illegal alien amnesty that has gotten under the radar of the American public is the granting of Temporary Protective Status (TPS) to illegal aliens of designated countries that have undergone natural disasters, civil strife, etc.

These authorizations are far from being temporary and have become a backdoor illegal alien amnesty in and of themselves. El Salvador has benefited from TPS since 2001, after experiencing an earthquake that killed more than 1,000 people, and Honduras and Nicaragua received TPS after Hurricane Mitch in 1998. Nine and twelve years after the fact is far from being "temporary".

Now, Guatemala is lobbying for TPS for its 1.7 million citizens residing in the USA. Of which, an estimated 60% are illegal aliens. Meaning that most Guatemalans living in the USA are illegal aliens. I'm sure the stats are probably similar for other TPS countries as well.

The DREAM Act and "comprehensive immigration reform" are examples of the many forms of amnesty that continue to feed and encourage illegal immigration into the USA. But what about TPS? Is it amnesty or not?

http://www.speroforum.com/a/39168/Do-Guatemalans-in-the-US-deserve-Temporary-Protected-Status

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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According to some in the media, Reid & Pelosi have plans to resurrect it in the lame duck session to appease the ethnic pimping / illegal alien cheerleading groups that habitually support the Left. I realize it has a slim to none chance of passing after the umpteenth attempt, but even sleazier bills have been sneaked through in the dead of night.

Yes...the people spoke on November 2, but that won't stop the lunatic fringe from getting their licks in while they can. It is important for the public to be educated and informed. Otherwise yet another amnesty is shoved up our arses under the radar and in the dark of night.

Won't happen. The DEMS do not have the votes they would need in the Senate. The DEMs were unable to even hold onto Obama's seat in the Senate. Since it was filling a vacancy the new Senator-elect was seated immediately. That makes 41 Republicans. Add in a few Blue Dog DEMS and the chances of it passing are NILL. The Dem agenda train hit a brick wall on November 2.

The DEMS complete incompetence in governing has lost them both Kennedy's seat and Obama's for a clean sweep of any hope of passing anything in the lame duck session. This will be one of the lamest lame duck sessions ever.

VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

Gary And Alla

Filed: Country: Belarus
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Another form of illegal alien amnesty that has gotten under the radar of the American public is the granting of Temporary Protective Status (TPS) to illegal aliens of designated countries that have undergone natural disasters, civil strife, etc.

These authorizations are far from being temporary and have become a backdoor illegal alien amnesty in and of themselves. El Salvador has benefited from TPS since 2001, after experiencing an earthquake that killed more than 1,000 people, and Honduras and Nicaragua received TPS after Hurricane Mitch in 1998. Nine and twelve years after the fact is far from being "temporary".

Now, Guatemala is lobbying for TPS for its 1.7 million citizens residing in the USA. Of which, an estimated 60% are illegal aliens. Meaning that most Guatemalans living in the USA are illegal aliens. I'm sure the stats are probably similar for other TPS countries as well.

The DREAM Act and "comprehensive immigration reform" are examples of the many forms of amnesty that continue to feed and encourage illegal immigration into the USA. But what about TPS? Is it amnesty or not?

http://www.speroforum.com/a/39168/Do-Guatemalans-in-the-US-deserve-Temporary-Protected-Status

So...is it amnesty or not? After an illegal alien from a TPS country lives here for up to a decade, makes US citizen babies, etc., etc. Does anyone really think this is "temporary"?

Should roughly one million Guatemalan illegal aliens be given TPS as proposed? With millions of Americans currently unemployed or underemployed should these people be rewarded with legal work authorization after illegally immigrating?

http://www.speroforum.com/a/39168/Do-Guatemalans-in-the-US-deserve-Temporary-Protected-Status

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: Country: Belarus
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I take it that you have no comment. I also take it that my post irritates you.

Have a Merry Christmas! And an equally enjoyable New Year. ;)

And thanks for coming to the party. I appreciate the nice gift. I'm not too hip on Bert Weedon though.

Edited by peejay

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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So...is it amnesty or not? After an illegal alien from a TPS country lives here for up to a decade, makes US citizen babies, etc., etc. Does anyone really think this is "temporary"?

Should roughly one million Guatemalan illegal aliens be given TPS as proposed? With millions of Americans currently unemployed or underemployed should these people be rewarded with legal work authorization after illegally immigrating?

http://www.speroforum.com/a/39168/Do-Guatemalans-in-the-US-deserve-Temporary-Protected-Status

If they are already here and working illegally I am sure their illegal employers will just be overjoyed to hear of their recent change to legal status. Then the illegal employer can begin paying payroll tax, give them benfits, cover them with workmen's comp insurance...you know, all the stuff they avoided by hiring illegals. Most of the illegals that become legals will be laid off and replaced with more illegals. They didn't hire them because Guatemalans are the best roofers in the world, contrary to popular belief.

Again, the illegal alien problem has nothing to do with temporary assylum. You want the illegals out? Then demand your congressman put a stop to the illegal employment that brings them here to begin with by severely punishing their AMERICAN employers! Illegals are just doing the best they can for their families, it is the AMERICANS that give them illegal jobs that are betraying their fellow Americans.

VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

Gary And Alla

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I take it that you have no comment.

No, not really.

I also take it that my post irritates you.

No, not in the slightest! I was merely amused at how there seemed to be no "debate" in here -- just like minded opinions agreeing with each other.

Have a Merry Christmas! And an equally enjoyable New Year. ;)

Thank You! To you and yours as well. Happy Hanukkah, first candle is tomorrow night, in fact. :D

And thanks for coming to the party. I appreciate the nice gift.

You're quite welcome.

I'm not too hip on Bert Weedon though.

Me neither. But I do like vintage nostalgia, and I thought you might too.

 

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