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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Armenia
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Hi,

My fiance arrived on 1/26/2006 on I-129F and she's only 17 and a half years old. When we went to the county registrars office here in Los Angeles to apply for a marriage license and get married. Now, they're giving us a hard time by asking for a court permission to get married.

They handed us a package with requirements that we have to satisfy before getting an appointment with the court. Some of these includes asking for a signed and notarized affidavit from each of her parents giving her the permission to marry as well as asking them to be present at the court.

Obviously, it's imossible for their parents to be present since they don't have any relatives here, and even if they did, it would take them months to get here!!! I told this to the lady at the registrars office, but they don't have a clue what I'm talking about!!! I called the court and to see if the would waive the requirements for her parents to be present due to the above mentioned reason and someone there said yes it's OK.

Also, I sent the blank affidavits to her parents to have them complete and notarized, but their notary will not notarize these because they're in English. Will we be able to gain court permission without having these forms?

Her parents have already written and signed a statement saying that they do give their permission for her to marry me, and it's translated in English. Will this be sufficient?

Why was her fiance visa granted by the US embassy if they knew it might be impossible for her to get married here? What is this bunch of bullshit? What does it take for two people from different corners of the world to be happy in this "civilized society" of ours?

Has anyone had to or is going through this? If so, please give me your input.

Thanks a mil!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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I was not aware of the fact that anyone over 16 needed parental consent to get married. I would return to the county registrars office with the papers that you have and see what they say.

If you will be unable to obtain a marriage licence, do you know what the age is in California to be able to marry without parental consent? Even if the age were 18, you mention that your fiance is only 17 1/2, so in 6 months time, it would be past the 90 days required to get married on the K-1 Visa.

I suppose you probably should have looked into the legal age to marry in California before you applied for the K-1 Visa and held off until your fiance was going to be that legal age.

Good luck to you both.

"THE SHORT STORY"

KURT & RAYMA (K-1 Visa)

Oct. 9/03... I-129F sent to NSC

June 10/04... K-1 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

July 31/04... Entered U.S.

Aug. 28/04... WEDDING DAY!!!!

Aug. 30/04... I-485, I-765 & I-131 sent to Seattle

Dec. 10/04... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport stamped)

Sept. 9/06... I-751 sent to NSC

May 15/07... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Sept. 13/07... N-400 sent to NSC

Aug. 21/08... Interview - PASSED!!!!

Sept. 2/08... Oath Ceremony

Sept. 5/08... Sent in Voter Registration Card

Sept. 9/08... SSA office to change status to "U.S. citizen"

Oct. 8/08... Applied in person for U.S. Passport

Oct. 22/08... U.S. Passport received

DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!!

KAELY (K-2 Visa)

Apr. 6/05... DS-230, Part I faxed to Vancouver Consulate

May 26/05... K-2 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

Sept. 5/05... Entered U.S.

Sept. 7/05... I-485 & I-131 sent to CLB

Feb. 22/06... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport NOT stamped)

Dec. 4/07... I-751 sent to NSC

May 23/08... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Mar. 22/11.... N-400 sent to AZ

June 27/11..... Interview - PASSED!!!

July 12/11..... Oath Ceremony

We're NOT lawyers.... just your average folks who had to find their own way!!!!! Anything we post here is simply our own opinions/suggestions/experiences and should not be taken as LAW!!!!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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It's hard to say what the court would accept or what they would not. You may want to consult with a knowledgeable person.

In the United States, all but two states require a couple be age 18 in order to marry without parental consent. Nebraska sets the age at 19 and Mississippi at 21 at the time of this writing (May 2003). More here: http://www.coolnurse.com/marriage_laws.htm

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09-02-2005 Applications for AOS, EAD, and AP received by MSC

10-21-2005 AOS fingerprint notice for 12-08-2005

11-07-2005 AP approved

12-05-2005 Infopass appt at San Jose office for interim EAD -- Refused, because it is already approved by MSC on 11-07-2005

12-07-2005 Attempt at interim EAD at San Francisco office -- no go. Back to San Jose, where CSO (chief station officer) tells they will contact MSC via email to request permission to issue interim EAD

12-08-2005 Biometrics for AOS and EAD. Having no EAD appt letter was no problem (used EAD NOA)

12-15-2005 EAD arrived in the mail

12-24-2005 Received interview letter; interview scheduled 03-01-2006

01-28-2006 Received replacement SSN card in married name (5 wks since application)

03-01-2006 AOS interview -- approved; received stamp in the passport

03-13-2006 Green card arrived in the mail

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Filing for removal of conditions

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Here is an overview of California's marriage laws.

http://www.sfgov.org/site/countyclerk_page.asp?id=5565

If one spouse is under 18, she needs written consent from at least one parent or guardian and permission to marry from a juvenile court judge.

You are in a tough bind. Most US states require parental/guardian consent for a spouse under 18. Georgia allows marriage without parental consent if the spouse is pregnant.

It's best to obtain consent from both parents. And if you can't get a notary to sign off, try using the one at the US embassy. Those notaries will surely notarize english documents.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Armenia
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The legal age to get married in her country is 17, and we had a traditional wedding party there. However, I didn't bother to get married there because it's a daunting beaurocratic process and would take time which I could not afford.

I was thinking, would my wedding photos help? I've got a ton of 'em!

And will a physicians certificate veryfing pregnancy work without the parental consent?

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I'm not a lawyer but here are your choices:

1. Get parental consent and get married in California.

2. Get pregnant and with that proof get married in a state that allows marriage for minors who are pregnant. Georgia comes to mind, but you should ask Georgia about its laws.

3. Go back to Armenia and get married there and file for K-3/CR-1. Your wife will have to stay in Armenia to wait for a new visa.

4. Wait until she is 18 years old then get married in California. She will accumulate overstay and is technically in the US illegally. File for AOS based on her marriage to a US citizen. Most likely the overstay will be forgiven at the interview but you should consult a lawyer.

Your wedding photos mean nothing since it wasn't a legally binding ceremony. Out of all those options, number 1 will cost the least amount of money and time.

Good luck.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Brazil
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when i was abroad and applying for the k1, the only place i could get something notarized in english was the US embassy/consulate. her parents could probably get it notarized there. your profile says that your fiancee is from armenia. if that's where here parents live, look at this link for notary services at that consulate: http://www.usa.am/consular.html#ns

(even if a non-consulate foreign notary would notarize it in english, it is likely that the US gov wouldn't accept it. that's what i was told anyway.)

good luck!

K-1 Timeline:

07-12-05 I-129 Sent to Vermont

07-19-05 NOA 1

08-31-05 NOA 2

09-08-05 Rec'd at NVC

09-12-05 Left NVC

09-28-05 Packet 3 from embassy

09-30-05 Packet 3 sent back

10-24-05 Packet 4

11-09-05 Interview - Approved!!

11-14-05 Visa rec'd

11-15-05 Arrive USA (JFK POE, employment stamp rec'd)

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AOS Timeline:

12-02-05 Wedding in San Diego

01-16-06 Sent out AOS, (I-485, I-765 - didn't apply for AP)

01-25-06 Rec'd NOAs for AOS, EAD

01-27-06 Notice for Biometrics Appointment

02-15-06 Biometrics Appointment for AOS and EAD

02-16-06 Case status FINALLY available online!

02-18-06 Letter for Interview on March 28th Received!!!

03-28-06 AOS Interview....APPROVED!!! stamp in passport. After we get the Green Card, no more USCIS...at least not for 2 more years!

04-03-06 Rec'd Welcome to America Letter!

04-06-06 RECEIVED GREEN CARD!!!! IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Iran
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I am not being funny here, but if you are having difficulty getting married in CA, maybe try Las Vegas... I am pretty sure laws are much more laxed over there.

01-01-2004 Married my wife in Iran 1-1-2004

01-14-2004 Filled out I-130 and sent to INS

01-21-2004 Sent I-129F with copy of NOA for I-130 for K3 visa

10-15-2004 My wife had a successful interview and received her K3 visa in Abu Dhabi, UAE

01-05-2005 My wife came to U.S. via Tennessee

01-14-2005 Approval NOA for I-130

02-25-2005 Sent I-485, EAD and I765 to Chicago Lockbox

04-01-2005 EAD andI-485 NOA for FPs arrived

04-20-2005 EAD and I-485 FPs done

06-01-2005 Received EAD card

01-07-2006 Received NOA for "Initial Interview Process" for adjustment for Permanent Residency

02-07-2006 Went for the I485 interview in Charlotte, NC.

03-25-2008 Received an email about production of Green Card

04-03-2008 My wife finally received her Green Card

12-20-2011 Applied for Naturalization N-400

05-10-2011 Naturalization Interview and Oath Ceremony (Yeah my wife is a citizen)

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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Sorry, it's 18 and above only, no matter how loose the morals. :-)

Applicants must be a Male and a Female, at least 18 years of age, and not nearer of kin than second cousins or cousins of half blood, and not having a husband or wife living.

http://www.co.clark.nv.us/clerk/marriage_information.htm

09-02-2005 Applications for AOS, EAD, and AP received by MSC

10-21-2005 AOS fingerprint notice for 12-08-2005

11-07-2005 AP approved

12-05-2005 Infopass appt at San Jose office for interim EAD -- Refused, because it is already approved by MSC on 11-07-2005

12-07-2005 Attempt at interim EAD at San Francisco office -- no go. Back to San Jose, where CSO (chief station officer) tells they will contact MSC via email to request permission to issue interim EAD

12-08-2005 Biometrics for AOS and EAD. Having no EAD appt letter was no problem (used EAD NOA)

12-15-2005 EAD arrived in the mail

12-24-2005 Received interview letter; interview scheduled 03-01-2006

01-28-2006 Received replacement SSN card in married name (5 wks since application)

03-01-2006 AOS interview -- approved; received stamp in the passport

03-13-2006 Green card arrived in the mail

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Filing for removal of conditions

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Iran
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Looks like it is just like what others have posted. Take a look at the list below:

This is off of http://usmarriagelaws.com/html/las_vegas.shtml

Marriage Laws » United States » Nevada » Marriage in Las Vegas

The Marriage license bureau is at 200 South 3rd St.,

1st floor, Las Vegas, NV 89155-1601

Phone: 702-455-4415, FAX: 702-455-4929.

Hours of operation are Monday through Sunday,

8 AM to Midnight. Holidays open 24 hours.

Note: There is now also a Marriage License Bureau in Laughlin, NV. and Mesquite NV.

101 Civic Way #2

Laughlin, NV

(702) 298-4622

500 Hillside Drive

Mesquite, NV

(702) 346-5262

Requirements are the same for US citizens and non citizens, but non citizens should check with their countries to see if they require more. Also see Apostille

Marriage is only between male and female.

The following may be used for identification: Drivers license or State-issued ID Card, Original or Certified copy of Birth Certificate, Passport, military identification or resident alien card.

All foreign language documents, must be translated into English.

Have enough money on you to cover the $35.00 - $42.00 (depends on County) fee.

Minors (not yet 18) must have consent of one parent who shows on the birth certificate and is present when getting this license.

Divorced applicants are required to know month, day, year and state of the divorce.

A marriage ceremony must be performed in the state of Nevada within one year of the date of issue by a person licensed to perform such a service.

It clearly states that minors must have the consent of one parent and that parent must be present.

01-01-2004 Married my wife in Iran 1-1-2004

01-14-2004 Filled out I-130 and sent to INS

01-21-2004 Sent I-129F with copy of NOA for I-130 for K3 visa

10-15-2004 My wife had a successful interview and received her K3 visa in Abu Dhabi, UAE

01-05-2005 My wife came to U.S. via Tennessee

01-14-2005 Approval NOA for I-130

02-25-2005 Sent I-485, EAD and I765 to Chicago Lockbox

04-01-2005 EAD andI-485 NOA for FPs arrived

04-20-2005 EAD and I-485 FPs done

06-01-2005 Received EAD card

01-07-2006 Received NOA for "Initial Interview Process" for adjustment for Permanent Residency

02-07-2006 Went for the I485 interview in Charlotte, NC.

03-25-2008 Received an email about production of Green Card

04-03-2008 My wife finally received her Green Card

12-20-2011 Applied for Naturalization N-400

05-10-2011 Naturalization Interview and Oath Ceremony (Yeah my wife is a citizen)

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Let me see if I have this story straight. You now require parental consent to be married?

Did you not have to provide this same kind of proof when you submitted your I-129F?

Doesn't the instructions state that if either of you are of an age that requires parental consent that you need to supply such proof? If so, what did you do with that documentation?

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