American death

[IndigoSkies 168]

There are valid reasons and arguements against illegal immigration. But to make that an issue in such mundane (humor me for a second) case of criminal homocide is irrelevent. There are plently of legal immigrants who commit violent crime. There are plenty of born-to-an-Irish-mother Americans who commit violent crime. The problem in this specific case is dangerous roads that are shared by motorists and cyclists. Do you think the immigrant offender, just before the unfortunate deed, thought to himself, "Hey! I'm an illegal immigrant. Let me kill that American cyclist."?

[IndigoSkies 168]

There are valid reasons and arguements against illegal immigration. But to make that an issue in such mundane (humor me for a second) case of criminal homocide is irrelevent. There are plently of legal immigrants who commit violent crime. There are plenty of born-to-an-Irish-mother Americans who commit violent crime. The problem in this specific case is dangerous roads that are shared by motorists and cyclists. Do you think the immigrant offender, just before the unfortunate deed, thought to himself, "Hey! I'm an illegal immigrant. Let me kill that American cyclist."?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Being killed by someone that shouldnt be here is just fine after all there are people killed everyday. :bonk:

[DoneWaiting 15]

The illegal status of the individual who perhaps, accidentally run over the USC has nothing to do with the event.. I beat all the below statistics are not all illegal immigrants.. and plenty of all the below are from under age citizens.. Crime is Crime and should be punished by the law of the land.

The table below shows alcohol-impaired** motor vehicle fatalities in the US for 2008.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

Additional Facts.. http://www.cdc.gov/M..._factsheet.html

Edited July 19, 2010 by DoneWaiting

[Obama 2012 1,714]

The illegal status of the individual who perhaps, accidentally run over the USC has nothing to do with the event.. I beat all the below statistics are not all illegal immigrants.. and plenty of all the below are from under age citizens.. Crime is Crime and should be punished by the law of the land.

The table below shows alcohol-impaired** motor vehicle fatalities in the US for 2008.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

Additional Facts.. http://www.cdc.gov/M..._factsheet.html

Actually it has everything to do with the event.

Yes, we have crimes committed by citizens all the time, however that does not need to be added to by those who are here illegally. If they weren't here to begin with, then those such crimes would not happen. Cause/effect. If that person was not here, it's not like some random other person is going to take their place to commit that crime..

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Sure about these claims?

My understanding is that most serve jail time before deportation. The only really red flag issue that I see with an illegal is that if they are released on bond, they rarely show up for the court appearance.

Edited July 19, 2010 by Sousuke

[Captain Oates 911]

That is one of my biggest issues with illegals in USA. The court system and law enforcement doesn't know how to deal with them or they don't want to.

Be an Illegal in USA and commit a crime and they ship you back to Mexico as your punishment. If it was an American who did a crime they would have a police record, probation, or jail time.

Same scenario if you kill a cop in Texas, you get death sentence. But if your an Illegal you can get sent back to Mexico to serve out a short jail sentence.

Who told you that amigo ?

Would you like to buy some Enron shares ?

[Captain Oates 911]

My understanding is that most serve jail time before deportation. The only really red flag issue that I see with an illegal is that if they are released on bond, they rarely show up for the court appearance.

Si absolutamente

I don't believe anyone gets bail for killing a police officer in the US.

I don't believe an illegal gets bail for that or is deported before a dashed good beating followed by execution or a life sentence

Prove me wrong

Is it true Mexican illegals are 95% al qaeda operatives ?

What % of Americans believe in UFO's ? - remind me...

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Si absolutamente

I don't believe anyone gets bail for killing a police officer in the US.

I don't believe an illegal gets bail for that or is deported before a dashed good beating followed by execution or a life sentence

Prove me wrong

Is it true Mexican illegals are 95% al qaeda operatives ?

What % of Americans believe in UFO's ? - remind me...

That would be something like 1/3 I think.

Personally I would like to see no bail for illegal aliens no matter what the charge, but its a constitutional right.

[HAL 9000 96]

My understanding is that most serve jail time before deportation. The only really red flag issue that I see with an illegal is that if they are released on bond, they rarely show up for the court appearance.

Exactly. Some people excel at blowing feces out their mouth.

[Peikko 1,575]

I love the 'what if' threads, if only there were no illegal immigrants, life in the US would be fabulous :thumbs:

People and their outrage, must do wonders for their health.

[HAL 9000 96]

That would be something like 1/3 I think.

Personally I would like to see no bail for illegal aliens no matter what the charge, but its a constitutional right.

Unless the criminal charges in question eliminate the possibility of bail.

Petty crime and lesser offenses usually result in detention pending deportation for illegals once confirmed. I see no concern to allow the minority of cases that are hyperventilated here to set a hysterical pace in ignoring actual context, but this is nothing new.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

The bicyclist's family would now receive a stately sum of money from the at fault driver's insurance company. It might help the wife to get by or secure the child's education and upbringing.

Unfortunately, the driver was not able to purchase insurance. He wasn't able to purchase insurance, because he couldn't get a driver license. Thus, he was FORCED to drive without both.

Therefore, the real tragedy is that US laws prevented the victim of the accident, and I think we all can agree that it was an accident, to get compensation. If people want to make sure Americans are not suffering in cases like this, allow anybody to get a US driver license, but take away the DL's status as primary identification and issue a Federal ID instead.

Illegal immigrants drive anyway; why preventing them from getting insurance?

[Peikko 1,575]

Not all Americans bother with insurance either - I presume, like in Europe there is a fund for uninsured driver compensation for victims of accidents, paid for of course by all the people who do buy insurance? If not, that would be scandalous.

Edited July 19, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Ban Hammer 14,273]

Unfortunately, the driver was not able to purchase insurance. He wasn't able to purchase insurance, because he couldn't get a driver license. Thus, he was FORCED to drive without both.

that poor illegal, being forced to do something against his will! i'm certain he'd be more than happy to spend the money to be able to legally drive, given his track record towards obeying the law!