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Forgot to post - NOA1 received, processed on 06/28/2010.

Married: 08/05/2007

I-130 sent CSC: 08/09/2007

NOA 1: 09/05/2007

NOA 2: 02/19/2008

NVC case number assigned: 03/04/2008

Case complete at NVC: 05/12/2008

Case sent to Consulate: 05/28/2008

Consulate received: 06/03/2008

Interview & Approval: 07/07/2008

Passport with Visa received: 07/11/2008

POE San Francisco: 09/15/2008

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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Forgot to post - NOA1 received, processed on 06/28/2010.

Updating kelzm's NOA date :)

California Service Center (24 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

EXTRACARE..........05/29/10..........06/07/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

TRI_GEAR...........06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SKYKATE............06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

GCHAN100...........06/01/10..........06/07/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KAFFY..............06/02/10..........06/07/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10....

AANDLKC............06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/16/10........--/--/10....

CELLARLILY.........06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

C AND J............06/04/10..........06/14/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10....

TRUFFLES...........06/04/10..........06/14/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

WEATHERMAN.........06/08/10..........06/10/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/08)

BLUEGREEN..........06/09/10..........06/16/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/09)

ALWAYSWAITING......06/12/10..........06/14/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10....

CHINTAN............06/15/10..........06/21/10.......07/26/10........--/--/10....

YGANDMAT...........06/15/10..........06/21/10.......07/15/10........--/--/10....

MCFEI..............06/18/10..........06/21/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SHEL444............06/18/10..........06/21/10.......07/21/10........--/--/10....

THANH..............06/18/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MEOWGIRL...........06/22/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

WELLYWENCH.........06/22/10..........06/23/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

FOULTE.............06/22/10..........06/24/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KAYLEIGH+KYLE......06/23/10..........06/25/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KELZM..............06/24/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SHE_HIM............06/25/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

EM79SUGAR..........06/28/10..........06/29/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Vermont Service Center (25 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

EM&ED..............05/28/10..........06/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MRS W..............05/28/10..........06/02/10.......07/26/10........--/--/10....

OLD DOMINION.......06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

CIVIRAM_HCL........06/01/10..........06/08/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

HONDO1Z............06/01/10..........06/04/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

DHSPLEASE..........06/01/10..........06/11/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

LIZARED78..........06/03/10..........06/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

ELMIRA.............06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

SSAH...............06/04/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

L640...............06/06/10..........06/09/10.......07/21/10........--/--/10....

EARMUFFS.......... 06/06/10..........06/12/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10....

LINDSEY Y KOKI.....06/07/10..........06/10/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

LADYAMALTHEA.......06/10/10..........06/14/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

ALETHEIA...........06/10/10..........06/14/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

DOMINICANGIRL3.....06/10/10..........06/16/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

JMK................06/11/10..........06/16/10.......07/29/10........--/--/10....

MDTOVA.............06/15/10..........06/17/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/08)

TRAZOM.............06/15/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

LA VIDA ES BELLA...06/16/10..........06/19/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MALLA..............06/17/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KJW................06/21/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

RANDOM NONSENSE....06/22/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MARCUS AND LAURA...06/22/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

ALL4KWEKU..........06/22/10..........06/25/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KITEEGIRL..........06/29/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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No Biometrics appt. at all. No touches since 6/03, what gives? Are we really not able to call anyone or see what the progress is on our case? I mean reallyyyyyy we are at the mercy of the USCIS and we're just supposed to sit here and hope our case isn't at the bottom of a landfill or anything??

Grrrrrrr :devil:

Feb 14, 2010 - Engaged :-)
Apr 17, 2010 - Married
May 24, 2010 - I-130 Sent to USCIS
Oct 20, 2010 - : I-130 NOA2 APPROVED..GOD IS GOOD!!!!! smile.png
Oct 26, 2010 : NVC Received
Dec 06, 2010 - Case Complete at NVC
Jan 24, 2011 - Medical exam
Feb 24, 2011 - Passed, welcome to USA
Mar 04, 2011 - POE - Detroit, MI
Mar 14, 2011 - SSN# Rec'd
Mar 24, 2011 - smile.png GC and Welcome Letter
Sept 19, 2011- Filed I-130 for my son (his step son)
June 14, 2013-APPROVED, 10 YR GC IN THE MAIL

Mar 3, 2014- N-400

May 12, 2014 Interview for Citizenship- PASSED!

June 12th, USA citizen - Oath Ceremony...all done here!!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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No Biometrics appt. at all. No touches since 6/03, what gives? Are we really not able to call anyone or see what the progress is on our case? I mean reallyyyyyy we are at the mercy of the USCIS and we're just supposed to sit here and hope our case isn't at the bottom of a landfill or anything??

Grrrrrrr :devil:

Read recent May Filers thread. They are struggling to get Bio letter. You are close to May, so maybe you are in same boat...?

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Germany
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We mailed the package on June 29th, hence why I put us in the June filers.. our NOA1 is dated July 6th.. so I guess I don't know where we belong!

KitEEgirl - congrats for completing one more step.

Should she not be shifted to July filers ?

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Frankfurt, Germany

01-04-2008 - I-129F Sent

01-09-2008 - I-129F NOA1

03-05-2008 - I-129F NOA2

04-08-2008 - Medical Exam

04-17-2008 - Interview!!!

04-22-2008 - VISA IN HAND!

05-02-2008 - U.S. Entrance

06-14-2008 - MARRIAGE!

Phase 2....

06-19-2008 - Sent AOS/EAD/AP

06-26-2008 - AOS/EAD/AP NOA1

07-19-2008 - Biometrics

07-22-2008 - Transferred to CSC!

07-28-2008 - Email from CRIS confirming CSC received case

08-25-2008 - Received AP in the mail (NO STATUS CHANGE OR CRIS EMAIL)

08-29-2008 - Received EAD card in the mail (NO STATUS CHANGE OR CRIS EMAIL)

09-22-2008 - Received Email from CRIS for I-485 "CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!"

09-27-2008 - Received Green Card in the mail!

Phase 3....

06-29-2010 - Sent I-751 and package to Remove Conditions

07-06-2010 - NOA1

08-24-2010 - Biometrics

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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We mailed the package on June 29th, hence why I put us in the June filers.. our NOA1 is dated July 6th.. so I guess I don't know where we belong!

Since your NOA date is 7/6, I think you belong to July filers...

And top of July VSC filer's dates are...

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

MAK3VELI...........06/28/10..........07/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

S-M-F..............06/30/10..........07/06/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

You should be in between them :)

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We mailed the package on June 29th, hence why I put us in the June filers.. our NOA1 is dated July 6th.. so I guess I don't know where we belong!

Since your NOA date is 7/6, I think you belong to July filers...

And top of July VSC filer's dates are...

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

MAK3VELI...........06/28/10..........07/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

S-M-F..............06/30/10..........07/06/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

You should be in between them :)

I think so

Removing Conditions

07/02/10 I-751 Packet mailed to VSC

07/06/10 Packet received

07/07/10 NOA1 received on 07/14/10

07/09/10 Check cleared

08/12/10 Bio appointment; received on 07/23/10

08/04/10 Early Bio

08/19/10 Card production ordered; email and text

08/24/10 Approved I751; email and text

08/26/10 Approval Notice received from Local Office by mail

08/28/10 GC received by mail

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jamaica
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We mailed the package on June 29th, hence why I put us in the June filers.. our NOA1 is dated July 6th.. so I guess I don't know where we belong!

Based on your NOA1 date I'd say July. Would you like me to add you to the list?

NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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The NOA1 Receipt date is 6/8/2010...However still haven't received a bio appt....Getting kind of nervous, is there anyone we can contact?

TIME LINE

10/1/2007 - Sent I-129f Visa Petition to VSC via FedEx

10/4/2007 - Petition Delivered to VSC signed for by A. Scot

10/16/2007 - Check Cashed - Receipt Number on Check - NOA1 online (no hardcopy)

10/22/2007 - Received NOA1 Hardcopy (received date reflected October 4th)

10/23/2007 - Touch

10/24/2007 - Touch

1/28/2008 - NOA2 APPROVED!

2/05/2008 - NVC RECEIVED PETITION FROM VSC

2/6 or 2/7 - NVC Shipped Documents to Consulate in London

2/11/2008 - Consulate in London received documents - signed by Koko

2/23/2008 - Received Packet 3 From Embassy

2/25/2008 - Packet 3 Returned.

3/25/2008 - Medical Interview - Bond Street

5/3/2008 - Religious Wedding Ceremony

5/13/2008 - Embassy Interview for K-1

5/18/2008 - Entered US on K-1 - Cleveland POE

5/21/2008 - Legal Marriage

5/30/2008 - Doctor's appt. transfer of Vaccination record to US i-693

AOS/EAD

6/04/2008 - File AOS and EAD with Chicago Office

6/16/2008 - Receive AOS/EAD

7/11/2008 - Biometrics Appt. - Raleigh, NC

7/30/2008- Transfer Date to CSC

8/15/2008 - EAD Approved

8/23/2008 - EAD Received

9/5/2008 - APPROVAL DATE

9/10/2008 - Green Card Received in Mail

Removal Of Conditions:

6/03/2010 - Filed I751

6/08/2010 - Received NOA

8/13/2010 - Bio Appt. - Durham, NC

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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The NOA1 Receipt date is 6/8/2010...However still haven't received a bio appt....Getting kind of nervous, is there anyone we can contact?

Read recent May Filers thread. They are struggling to get Bio letter. You are close to May, so maybe you are in same boat...?

As I mentioned earlier today, read recent May Filers thread Here.

You can find helpful information about not getting biometrics, like "how to contact" etc... :)

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went and walked in for my biometrics today.. wasnt anyone in there.. walked from the counter right to the back..

now I dont have to worry about getting off work to drive 4 hours home to get it done.

California Service Center (24 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

EXTRACARE..........05/29/10..........06/07/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

TRI_GEAR...........06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SKYKATE............06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

GCHAN100...........06/01/10..........06/07/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KAFFY..............06/02/10..........06/07/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10....

AANDLKC............06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/16/10........--/--/10....

CELLARLILY.........06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

C AND J............06/04/10..........06/14/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10....

TRUFFLES...........06/04/10..........06/14/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

WEATHERMAN.........06/08/10..........06/10/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/08)

BLUEGREEN..........06/09/10..........06/16/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/09)

ALWAYSWAITING......06/12/10..........06/14/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10....

CHINTAN............06/15/10..........06/21/10.......07/26/10........--/--/10....

YGANDMAT...........06/15/10..........06/21/10.......07/15/10........--/--/10....

MCFEI..............06/18/10..........06/21/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SHEL444............06/18/10..........06/21/10.......07/21/10........--/--/10....

THANH..............06/18/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MEOWGIRL...........06/22/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

WELLYWENCH.........06/22/10..........06/23/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

FOULTE.............06/22/10..........06/24/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KAYLEIGH+KYLE......06/23/10..........06/25/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KELZM..............06/24/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SHE_HIM............06/25/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

EM79SUGAR..........06/28/10..........06/29/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Vermont Service Center (25 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

EM&ED..............05/28/10..........06/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MRS W..............05/28/10..........06/02/10.......07/26/10........--/--/10....

OLD DOMINION.......06/01/10..........06/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

CIVIRAM_HCL........06/01/10..........06/08/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

HONDO1Z............06/01/10..........06/04/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

DHSPLEASE..........06/01/10..........06/11/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

LIZARED78..........06/03/10..........06/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

ELMIRA.............06/04/10..........06/07/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

SSAH...............06/04/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

L640...............06/06/10..........06/09/10.......07/21/10........--/--/10....

EARMUFFS.......... 06/06/10..........06/12/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/14)

ALWAYSWAITING......06/12/10..........06/14/10.......07/23/10........--/--/10....

LINDSEY Y KOKI.....06/07/10..........06/10/10.......07/20/10........--/--/10....

LADYAMALTHEA.......06/10/10..........06/14/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

ALETHEIA...........06/10/10..........06/14/10.......07/22/10........--/--/10....

DOMINICANGIRL3.....06/10/10..........06/16/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

JMK................06/11/10..........06/16/10.......07/29/10........--/--/10....

MDTOVA.............06/15/10..........06/17/10.......07/27/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 7/08)

TRAZOM.............06/15/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

LA VIDA ES BELLA...06/16/10..........06/19/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MALLA..............06/17/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KJW................06/21/10..........06/28/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

RANDOM NONSENSE....06/22/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

MARCUS AND LAURA...06/22/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

ALL4KWEKU..........06/22/10..........06/25/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KITEEGIRL..........06/29/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
Timeline

Just received the NOA1, dated 6/24!! Just wish they had cashed the check sooner.

N400 Timeline

June 05/20 - Applied Online

March 19/21 - Interview/Oath Ceremony

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline

Hubby spoke with a real live person at the USCIS. Not everyone has to have a biometrics done is what they told him. Is this the case with some? :unsure:

Feb 14, 2010 - Engaged :-)
Apr 17, 2010 - Married
May 24, 2010 - I-130 Sent to USCIS
Oct 20, 2010 - : I-130 NOA2 APPROVED..GOD IS GOOD!!!!! smile.png
Oct 26, 2010 : NVC Received
Dec 06, 2010 - Case Complete at NVC
Jan 24, 2011 - Medical exam
Feb 24, 2011 - Passed, welcome to USA
Mar 04, 2011 - POE - Detroit, MI
Mar 14, 2011 - SSN# Rec'd
Mar 24, 2011 - smile.png GC and Welcome Letter
Sept 19, 2011- Filed I-130 for my son (his step son)
June 14, 2013-APPROVED, 10 YR GC IN THE MAIL

Mar 3, 2014- N-400

May 12, 2014 Interview for Citizenship- PASSED!

June 12th, USA citizen - Oath Ceremony...all done here!!

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Hi there

I am still waiting for my biometrics letter to come, it seems liek USCIS is stopped sending them.

I will going on vacation in Sept for 22 days, and am worried that I will miss the biometrics appointment, what if they sent the letter when I go on the trip, and appointment is within the date I was travelling too. What should I do if I really missed it?

Please advice.

K1 Timeline:
I129 sent: 18th Apr 2007
NOA1 receipt date: 24th Apr 2007
Touched: 24th Apr 2007, 14/15th Aug 2007
NOA2: 17th Aug 2007
Received NVC letter: 7th Sept 2007
Received Packet 3: 2nd Oct 2007
Sent Packet 3: 4th Oct 2007; Called USE Malaysia: 12th Oct 2007
Received Packet 4: 23rd Oct 2007
Medical Appointment: 29th Oct 2007
Interview date: 15th Nov 2007; Visa Pick Up Date: 19th Nov 2007
USA Entry: 1st Dec 2007
Married: 5th of Dec 2007
AOS
7th Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD Filing (sent by Fedex)
17th Jan 2008 : NOA1s of AOS, AP & EAD (Cheque cashed)
22nd Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD touched
22nd Jan 2008 : Apply SSN
12th Feb 2008 : Biometrics Appt date (letter received: 28th of Jan)
Received SSN : 28th Jan 2008
13th Feb 2008 : I-485 & I-765 touched
27th Feb 2008 : I-765 Card sent from CRIS Email. I-765 & I-131 touched
4th Mar 2008 : I-765 touched
5th Mar 2008 : I-131 Received in Mail; I-765 touched
7th Mar 2008 : I-765 received in Mail
22nd Mar 2008: Passed driving written test
8th Apr 2008: Passed Driving test on road
6th May 2008: Received Driving license card
17th Sept 2008: Received Greencard (expired: 9/17/2010)
I-751
18th June 2010: Sent out I-751 package (By USPS)
21st June 2010: NOA1
23rd June 2010: Cashed check
19th July 2010: Received Biometrics letter, and schedule date: 8/12/10
23rd July 2010: Early Biometrics, touched. 7/26: Touched again
16th/23rd Sept 2010: Touched
27th Sept 2010: Received Greencard

N-400

2nd June 2015: Sent out N-400 application package (By Fedex, delivered: June 4); June 8, check cashed

5th June 2015: Received NOA

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Hubby spoke with a real live person at the USCIS. Not everyone has to have a biometrics done is what they told him. Is this the case with some? :unsure:

I don't think this right, a lot of times wrong information is given to the callers. I would try calling again or just wait for your biometrics appoinment letter.

Everyone removing conditions must have their fingerprints taken, that is why you also pay a fee.

4.28.07 - Married in Jalisco Mexico - Cozumel Honeymoon for 2 weeks

***I-130***

5.24.07 - I-130 Received in CSC

7.14.07 - Received NOA1 (WOW after 6 weeks, I was worried...called INS and told me CSC had a computer "glitch" causing delays on printing Receipt notices and approvals)

10.30.07 - APPROVED No email, the NOA2 came in the mail...hard copy.

***1-129F***

7.23.07 - I-129F received in Chicago

7.30.07 - Received NOA1

11.21.07 - APPROVED!!!! APPROVED. GOT AN E-MAIL ON THANKSGIVING!

03.03.08- INTERVIEW IN CIUDAD JUAREZ. VISA GRANTED ON 03.03.2008

***AOS & EAD***

3.10.08 - Case Received at Chicago Lockbox, check cashed 3.14.08

3.17.08 - Received both NOA's in the mail

3.21.08 - Received Biometrics appointment letter in the mail, biometrics Appt. 4.02.08

5.05.08 - EAD Card Production ordered GOT EMAIL (we received the same email on 5.09.08)

5.13.08 - Approval Email for EAD (so the card was ordered first, and then we were approved...hum)

5.15.08 - EAD Card Received in mail.

8.08.08 - WE GOT OUR INTERVIEW APPOINTMENT YAY...9/12/08 - INTERVIEW APPROVED

9.24.08 - Received Green Card in the mail YEAH!

***I-751***

6.15.10 - Mailed I-751 Docs to CSC, check cashed 6.24.10

6.26.10 - Received NOA in mail dated 6.21.10

6.29.10 - Received Biometrics appointment for 7.15.10

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