Arizona Official Threatens to Cut Off Los Angeles Power as Payback for Boycott

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i'm glad you finally admit that in bold and will now cease with trying to hijack it.

and thanks for dismissing my thoughts about those wranglings so easily.

Thanks for continuing to miss my point. I don't care really but it makes you look rather foolish.

Is it your intent to appear foolish?

Smoke conceded that the constitutional amendments are constantly being tested out of perceived ambiguity in the wording, why won't you? I don't see why you are taking umbrage at it, It's simply a fact.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i don't bring gun control into threads - unless it's a thread advocating a good two handed grip

I didn't bring gun control into it either. All I said was that the second amendment is ambiguous. If it weren't, we wouldn't have umpteen cases being adjudicated by the courts.

It is a fact.

Why are you in denial of the facts?

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

Thanks for continuing to miss my point. I don't care really but it makes you look rather foolish.

Is it your intent to appear foolish?

Smoke conceded that the constitutional amendments are constantly being tested out of perceived ambiguity in the wording, why won't you? I don't see why you are taking umbrage at it, It's simply a fact.

and thanks for missing my point. to me, the 2nd amendment isn't ambiguous at all. that's a fact.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No Charles, that is your "opinion", it is not fact.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

No Charles, that is your "opinion", it is not fact.

i didn't say my opinion was a fact, just that it was a fact that i believe the 2nd amendment isn't ambiguous.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ok, is this the "how inane can you possibly be" game?

If so, you are clearly winning.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

Ok, is this the "how inane can you possibly be" game?

If so, you are clearly winning.

why thank you for the compliment!

[Pooky 3,348]

I presented to you scenarios of how someone who is here legally may carry with them an expired GC, even though they are on extension while they wait for the lifting of conditions. Most here have read or know of someone here who came over on a K-1 visa, but waited beyond the 90 day limit to adjust status. So your reckless assumption has no merit in real world scenarios like the ones I gave you.

How does not following the rules laid out equate to calling me reckless? If someone on a K1 Visa can't count to 90, then maybe they need to stay in school a bit longer. Regardless of the excuse, if you don't follow the rules, then don't complain when it comes back to bit you on the a$$.

But then again, this whole AZ situation is because illegal immigrants don't follow rules, so it's no surprise that you'd single out a circumstance like this.

When will you understand that your POV represents around 30% of the American people and that almost 70% support Arizona's stand? And as AZ is only looking to allow state and local law enforcement to enforce Federal legislation, the solution should be pretty obvious. The Federal authorities need to resource their enforcement and do the their job. And saying the funding isn't there doesn't wash. The money is there. It's the political inclination and/or will that's lacking.

[sjr09 155]

you really are delusional....

Delusional is just the tip of the iceburg!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

How does not following the rules laid out equate to calling me reckless? If someone on a K1 Visa can't count to 90, then maybe they need to stay in school a bit longer. Regardless of the excuse, if you don't follow the rules, then don't complain when it comes back to bit you on the a$$.

But then again, this whole AZ situation is because illegal immigrants don't follow rules, so it's no surprise that you'd single out a circumstance like this.

When will you understand that your POV represents around 30% of the American people and that almost 70% support Arizona's stand? And as AZ is only looking to allow state and local law enforcement to enforce Federal legislation, the solution should be pretty obvious. The Federal authorities need to resource their enforcement and do the their job. And saying the funding isn't there doesn't wash. The money is there. It's the political inclination and/or will that's lacking.

If the polls revealed ethnicity, I'm sure it would be an eye opener.

[Pooky 3,348]

If the polls revealed ethnicity, I'm sure it would be an eye opener.

And now who is guilty of attempted racial profiling?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

And now who is guilty of attempted racial profiling?

Um okay. I'm not law enforcement so that really doesn't apply.

Racial profiling refers to the "use by law enforcement personnel of an individual’s race or ethnicity as a factor in articulating reasonable suspicion to stop, question or arrest an individual, unless race or ethnicity is part of an identifying description of a specific suspect for a specific crime."

Anyway, what I am saying is that minorities have more to fear then lets say a WASP and may be more likely to oppose it.

Edited May 19, 2010 by Sousuke

[peejay 327]

If the polls revealed ethnicity, I'm sure it would be an eye opener.

I don't have any comment about ethnicity, but the overall polls are in favor of AZ in all fronts. Here are the results of the MSN poll as to whether AZ should pull the electrical plug on the illegal alien haven of L.A. When I put my 2 cents into the poll 60,624 (86%) were in favor of AZ retaliating against LA. A measly 8,937 (13%) were against. And MSN is usually to the Left of Center.:

http://world-news.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/19/4309119-should-arizona-have-the-right-to-pull-the-plug-on-la-if-the-city-goes-through-its-boycott?GT1=43001

[one...two...tree 2,762]

How does not following the rules laid out equate to calling me reckless? If someone on a K1 Visa can't count to 90, then maybe they need to stay in school a bit longer. Regardless of the excuse, if you don't follow the rules, then don't complain when it comes back to bit you on the a$.

But then again, this whole AZ situation is because illegal immigrants don't follow rules, so it's no surprise that you'd single out a circumstance like this.

When will you understand that your POV represents around 30% of the American people and that almost 70% support Arizona's stand? And as AZ is only looking to allow state and local law enforcement to enforce Federal legislation, the solution should be pretty obvious. The Federal authorities need to resource their enforcement and do the their job. And saying the funding isn't there doesn't wash. The money is there. It's the political inclination and/or will that's lacking.

Our constitutional rights and protections aren't measured by mob rule. Thankfully, the Founders of this country understood the importance of protecting the rights of the minority.

As for someone who is out of status with a K-1, perhaps you should spend a little time in the upper forums to learn first just how common this happens, and secondly, you'd understand that is not grounds for deportation, let alone detainment.

Considering you yourself are an immigrant, I find it odd that you don't seem to understand the legal nuances of our immigration system, not to mention a lack of empathy for others going through the process.

[peejay 327]

Our constitutional rights and protections aren't measured by mob rule. Thankfully, the Founders of this country understood the importance of protecting the rights of the minority.

As for someone who is out of status with a K-1, perhaps you should spend a little time in the upper forums to learn first just how common this happens, and secondly, you'd understand that is not grounds for deportation, let alone detainment.

Considering you yourself are an immigrant, I find it odd that you don't seem to understand the legal nuances of our immigration system, not to mention a lack of empathy for others going through the process.

The problem is that illegal aliens are not going through the process. They do not have a constitutional right to illegally immigrate. You use lies and scare tactics to cheerlead for illegal aliens by insinuating that legal immigrants and US citizens should be fearful.

You are against any kind of immigration or workplace enforcement whether it comes from the state or federal level. All of your posting history reflects this. Who are you trying to kid? The writing is on the wall for all to see.