A Must-Read: Rush Limbaugh Supports LEGAL Immigration

[TBoneTX 45,537]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042810/content/01125109.guest.html

Too long to reproduce all the text, but read it to see what you agree and disagree with.

(In case the above is unclear to anyone: "Read" comes before "agree or disagree.")

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Most people are pro-legal-immigration. The left likes to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

" How is it fair to legal immigrants that have taken all the necessary steps to become legal citizens for years to grant everybody legal benefits even if they aren't legal and have cheated the system? What is fair? If we're going to use fairness let's throw it right back in their face." -Rush

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Most people are pro-legal-immigration. The left likes to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

" How is it fair to legal immigrants that have taken all the necessary steps to become legal citizens for years to grant everybody legal benefits even if they aren't legal and have cheated the system? What is fair? If we're going to use fairness let's throw it right back in their face." -Rush

BLUR! Thats putting it lightly.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who cares what that drug addict has to say. Rush is like putting mayonnaise on french fries, or bacon in a chocolate shake.

[alienlovechild 75]

Most people are pro-legal-immigration. The left likes to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

Blur? There's no distinction at all. They are all largely potential Democratic voters and that is the real bottom line.

[TBoneTX 45,537]

Who cares what that drug addict has to say. Rush is like putting mayonnaise on french fries, or bacon in a chocolate shake.

Perhaps you're afraid that he'll change your mind. Follow the originally suggested instructions, please. Edited April 29, 2010 by TBoneTX

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

The Arizona law aside for a moment, I just want to brainstorm all of the aspects of illegal immigrants.

Who supports illegal immigration?

1. Employers in construction, agriculture, hospitality. Why? cheaper operating costs.

2. Libertarians & Liberals Why? Because they feel borders shouldn't be able to stop people looking for a livelihood.

3. George Bush Why? He needed Hispanic votes

4. Barack Obama Why? Same as Bush

5. Democratic Congress Why? Same as Bush

Who doesn't support illegal immigration?

1. Employees in construction & hospitality Why? They are losing work

2. Majority of Republicans Why? They recognize that services are being used that aren't being paid for and they are currently trying to pull the budget they helped break back together again.

3. Landowners near the Border Why? Their land is being trespassed on and damaged.

4. People who fear changing demographics

5. Supporters of strong National Security Why? They don't have background checks and if an open border is created the system (immigration/fbi) may collapse.

Now comparing them:

Pro amnesty

1,3,4,5 - One person or group profiting off of the issue.

2. An honorable idea.

Anti Amnesty

1,3. - People directly harmed by immigration

2,5 - A logical idea

4 - A less than honorable idea.

So what does illegal immigration provide?

1. Cheap Labor

2. Cheaper goods

3. A demographic that returns money to the economy

4. Some tax revenue from goods purchased.

So what does illegal immigration takeaway

1. Civil services with less taxes paid

2. Unpaid Hospital treatments

3. Avoidance of civil torts

So what happens if illegals are removed over the course of a decade?

1. Some inflationary pressure - structures cost more to build, produce increases because machinery / more expensive labor is used.

2. Governments see some reduction in budget spending

3. Medical expenses lower

4. Unemployment lowers, but only slightly as the slowing in population growth also slows economic growth.

5. Wages climb because of mild labor shortages (see inflationary pressure)

What is the danger in amnesty?

Twofold.

1. It declares that the southern border is a legitimate way to enter the country. Therefore why should Mr. A be discriminated against over in Africa who is suffering more than Mr. B who crossed from Mexico.

2. The US immigration system, already at a breaking point would be locked up for years trying to process immigrants who entered illegally. This in turn would harm immigrants who legally wanted to enter AND more importantly, could delay important talent that could be helping the nation in science, security, business.

I went back and read Rush's transcript and it looks like I agree with him minus his typical political ramblings.

Edited April 29, 2010 by Sousuke

[TBoneTX 45,537]

The Arizona law aside for a moment, I just want to brainstorm all of the aspects of illegal immigrants.[...]

You've been doing some impressive thinking on this, dude, si man. Did you also consider the "criminal element" of drug-traffickers or gangs, among your groups who would be anti? Edited April 29, 2010 by TBoneTX

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You've been doing some impressive thinking on this, dude, si man. Did you also consider the "criminal element" of drug-traffickers or gangs, among your groups who would be anti?

I can't really get my head around it. The way I see it, the criminal element moves through the "noise" of illegal immigration. Though I would say that it would exist no matter what as long as there is demand for illegal drugs.

Edited April 29, 2010 by Sousuke

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Rush is like putting mayonnaise on french fries

Careful now. Mayo on fries is awesome.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Careful now. Mayo on fries is awesome.

eh, I'd be more inclined to lead towards Miracle Whip here than Mayo for the fries.

[The_Dude 1,142]

eh, I'd be more inclined to lead towards Miracle Whip here than Mayo for the fries.

Miracle whip or mayo is like putting dogsh!t on a pizza and calling it a topping. Pure blasphemy I say!

[Dan J 277]

You've been doing some impressive thinking on this, dude, si man. Did you also consider the "criminal element" of drug-traffickers or gangs, among your groups who would be anti?

Even though most of the conservative arguments against illegal immigration have to do with crime. Any crime related to the drug trade would still continue regardless of whatever happens with immigration. The margins in the drug trade are high enough, and most traffickers have the resources to keep moving drugs into the US.

With illegal immigration, its easier for them to hide within the flow of people. With legal immigration/workers visa, then they would be much more likely stand out like sore thumbs.

[Heracles 417]

Most people are pro-legal-immigration. The left likes to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

I'd say disingenuously and cunningly hide. Or maybe they are just idiots and simply don't know the difference. After all, many of the drugs abused in the 60's are chemicals know to cause DNA damage.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Who cares what that drug addict has to say. Rush is like putting mayonnaise on french fries, or bacon in a chocolate shake.

The first one is good and the second one sounds good.