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I bought a red leather jacket. My daughter asked me what color it is: green, blue, white, black, or red. What do you think I should tell her?


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I would like to ask what to write in my marital status (visa application form) if my previous marriage is already legally annulled? Single(never married)? divorced? separated?

In the eyes of the law, an "annulment" means the marriage never happened - so I would put "single", since it didn't happen.

However, you would need to prove the annulement (certificate or something stating that).


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I bought a red leather jacket. My daughter asked me what color it is: green, blue, white, black, or red. What do you think I should tell her?

I am very sorry, I made a mistake. The options in the form are 1.single (never married),2. divorced, 3. separated

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We don't have the forms in front of us (nor do you even tell us which exact one you're referring to).

If there's not an 'annulled' option, is there an 'other' option where you can write annulled? If not, I would select 'divorced' and write out 'annulled' above it/beside it to eliminate confusion.

But obviously, single (never married) or separated do not apply.


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I am very sorry, I made a mistake. The options in the form are 1.single (never married),2. divorced, 3. separated

Annulment is when a marriage is declared null and void, as if it never existed in the first place. So given the three choices you have, I would go with 1. Single (never married)....


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You'd best seek the advice from other PI filers. You'll likely get some debate from others.

My first marriage was annuled after we were divorced. Technically an annulment is retroactive so in the "Church State" you may be considered single - never married, however in the "legal state" I always discclose it as being divorced as I do not believe that the US government considers annulment when relevant to legal proceedings.

I say this based on past personal experience and not on factual law.

The PI pooks at things differently so I'd take the advice of others who have gone through the Manilla consulate to see how they answered the question.


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You'd best seek the advice from other PI filers. You'll likely get some debate from others.

My first marriage was annuled after we were divorced. Technically an annulment is retroactive so in the "Church State" you may be considered single - never married, however in the "legal state" I always discclose it as being divorced as I do not believe that the US government considers annulment when relevant to legal proceedings.

I say this based on past personal experience and not on factual law.

The PI pooks at things differently so I'd take the advice of others who have gone through the Manilla consulate to see how they answered the question.

Good point. The experiences I had heard lead me to my answer above, but London is London and Manila is Manila.

Moving thread from K1 process forum to consular forum to hopefully get more specific answers.

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Good point. The experiences I had heard lead me to my answer above, but London is London and Manila is Manila.

Moving thread from K1 process forum to consular forum to hopefully get more specific answers.

Thank you everyone...I hope someone in the PI can answer my question.

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Good point. The experiences I had heard lead me to my answer above, but London is London and Manila is Manila.

Moving thread from K1 process forum to consular forum to hopefully get more specific answers.

Yeah, I get really confused when this topic comes up for PI filiers. I have read that they do not recognize divorce in the PI, so if there is no divorce decree then how do they address it on US documents. Still an area I need to learn more about if I'm ever to be of much use on this topic!


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12/15/2009 Interview (HCMC, VN)

1/16/2010 POE Detroit

3/31/2010 MARRIED !!!

11/20/2010 Filed I-485

12/23/2010 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

12/31/2010 I-485 Transfered to CSC

2/4/2011 Green Card received

1/7/2013 Mailed I-751 package

1/14/2013 I-751 NOA (VSC)

2/07/2013 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

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As I understand it, the Philippines are in a very small group of countries that go against the stream. In most countries of the world, it's extremely difficult to get an annulment once the marriage has been consumed. Heck, the Prince of Wales and Diana tried it and even they couldn't pull that off. In the PI, it's difficult to get divorced, so annulment is the common practice to undo a marriage. That's difficult to get into a Westener's head, so by common sense an annulled marriage has never been taken place, but by PI standards is a divorce. Just crazy . . .


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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hello

you will answer that SEPARATED that what i did too when i fill-up my papers when i was in the phils. im annuled too. if you have any other question dont hesitate to ask im willing to help..

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In the PI, it's difficult to get divorced, so annulment is the common practice to undo a marriage. That's difficult to get into a Westener's head, so by common sense an annulled marriage has never been taken place, but by PI standards is a divorce. Just crazy . . .

Not difficult, it's impossible to get divorced in the Philippines so annulment is the ONLY option and it can take years!

But wait, there's more...

If a Filipino is married to a foreigner and gets legally divorced in the foreign country the Philippine Gov't will only recognize the divorce if it was filed by the foreign spouse not the Filipino! Then even that recognition requires legal filing which can take a considerable amount of time.

There have been cases where a K-1 Visa was issued to a Filipino who had initiated (and completed) divorce against their foreign spouse but they still couldn't leave the country because the Philippines requires a "CFO" (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) endorsement in their Visa to leave the country but they won't issue said endorsement to a fiancé/fiancée Visa holder who is still legally married in the Philippines...

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