DS3025 - When is this form obtained?

[JoshyVeronica 0]

My fiancee had her medical interview for our K-1 visa. She obtained from the doctor the envelope (mysterious brown envelope that can't be opened) and the X-ray. I am beginning to fill out the paperwork for my AOS but I have no DS-3025 (vaccination record). Is the record inside the envelope? I had my fiancee call the doctor, and he won't tell her whether the folder contains a DS-3025. When my fiancee went she did not tell the doctor anything about vaccinations so I don't see how he could have filled out that form, except, she says that it is obvious she has all the immunizations because they are required for public school. Is the DS-3025 in the packet and is it filled out showing that she has these shots? If not, since she has no vaccination record will she need to get all of these immunizations again in the United States before we file for AOS?

Thanks!

[Calypso 465]

My fiancee had her medical interview for our K-1 visa. She obtained from the doctor the envelope (mysterious brown envelope that can't be opened) and the X-ray. I am beginning to fill out the paperwork for my AOS but I have no DS-3025 (vaccination record). Is the record inside the envelope? I had my fiancee call the doctor, and he won't tell her whether the folder contains a DS-3025. When my fiancee went she did not tell the doctor anything about vaccinations so I don't see how he could have filled out that form, except, she says that it is obvious she has all the immunizations because they are required for public school. Is the DS-3025 in the packet and is it filled out showing that she has these shots? If not, since she has no vaccination record will she need to get all of these immunizations again in the United States before we file for AOS?

Thanks!

Sounds #######... "mysterious brown envelope that can't be opened." Is this envelope sealed?

In the Philippines, our DS-3025 isn't placed inside an envelope at all so there's no chance to have it sealed. We receive the DS-3025 and X-ray CD bare.

If your fiance received vaccinations after the medical exam, the physician would surely fill out her DS-3025.

The mere claim that she had her immunization as a requirement from the public school will not help. If she has no proof of it, she might likely be asked to get the shots again.

FAE

[JoshyVeronica 0]

That's right, we received the XRAY and the sealed envelope that can't be opened which may, or may not, contain a DS-3025...

[VanessaTony 3,567]

The envelope she received from the doctor is NOT the MBE (mysterious brown envelope) that you see so often referred to on here. The MBE is the envelope sent with your passport when your visa is approved. That said though you cannot open the doctor envelope.

The doctor envelope contains the medical results as well as vaccination results. it's strange that your fiancee did not show any vaccination evidence but as you said, public school there have certain records so he probably just assumed and filled it in. Did she have her blood tests done? Tell her to call her doctor and ask for a copy of the vaccination record (DS-3025) and if they fight it, tell them to look at the bottom of the form where it clearly states that your fiancee was SUPPOSED to have been given one already.

You should be fine, here's an example of the form in english: http://www.visa-talk.com/DOC/Medical-forms/DS3025.pdf you can see at the bottom it says "give copy to applicant" so there's proof for them that she's SUPPOSED to have it.

Hope that helps. You will require that form otherwise yes, your fiancee will require ALL the shots again (unless she has proof of the shots that is)

Edited January 13, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[JoshyVeronica 0]

The envelope she received from the doctor is NOT the MBE (mysterious brown envelope) that you see so often referred to on here. The MBE is the envelope sent with your passport when your visa is approved. That said though you cannot open the doctor envelope.

The doctor envelope contains the medical results as well as vaccination results. it's strange that your fiancee did not show any vaccination evidence but as you said, public school there have certain records so he probably just assumed and filled it in. Did she have her blood tests done? Tell her to call her doctor and ask for a copy of the vaccination record (DS-3025) and if they fight it, tell them to look at the bottom of the form where it clearly states that your fiancee was SUPPOSED to have been given one already.

You should be fine, here's an example of the form in english: http://www.visa-talk.com/DOC/Medical-forms/DS3025.pdf you can see at the bottom it says "give copy to applicant" so there's proof for them that she's SUPPOSED to have it.

Hope that helps. You will require that form otherwise yes, your fiancee will require ALL the shots again (unless she has proof of the shots that is)

Vanessa - Thanks for correcting me, I had gotten my brown envelope and white envelopes confused (in fact, I had thought until you corrected me that they were the same)

My fiancee did have her blood test completed by the doctor. I am encouraging her to either call the Doctor to get a copy or to go to the Doctor and try and get one. Is the white doctor envelop opened at the Consulate? If so, is getting a copy there an option?

The Guayaquil Packet 4 says that Ecuador does not require vaccinations. Since the K-1 packet says that no immunizations are required for K-1 maybe they assume you have them already?

Thanks for you help!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Vanessa - Thanks for correcting me, I had gotten my brown envelope and white envelopes confused (in fact, I had thought until you corrected me that they were the same)

My fiancee did have her blood test completed by the doctor. I am encouraging her to either call the Doctor to get a copy or to go to the Doctor and try and get one. Is the white doctor envelop opened at the Consulate? If so, is getting a copy there an option?

The Guayaquil Packet 4 says that Ecuador does not require vaccinations. Since the K-1 packet says that no immunizations are required for K-1 maybe they assume you have them already?

Thanks for you help!

Okay so i went to the equador US embassy site and found the P4 instructions here: http://guayaquil.usconsulate.gov/media/pdf...ctober-2009.pdf

It does mention that she needs to take any records for immunisation to the medical (pg 3) BUT it also says in a note that K1 applicants (among others) will not require immunisations, like you said... but I think this is in reference to where it discusses the cost and says "immunisations, if necessary" so it's letting you know that's not an extra cost.. but it's not very clear :S... I think you're right though that your fiancee must just already fill the requirements from her schooling immunisations... that's a bonus though, no extra cost!

I would assume the doctor envelope is opened at the consulate but perhaps after she's handed it over she could mention that she needs a copy? I don't think it would hurt (if she's tried the doctor but he doesnt have a copy or something) to ask them about obtaining a copy. I had trouble with mine and emailed the consulate who told me that they could try and copy it if I was unable to obtain it from the doctor but I was able to get it from the doctor so that saved that hassle.

If it's close, I would go to the doctor rather than call because then they can't blow her off easily and she can POINT to the part that says "copy to beneficiary". I'm crossing fingers for you!

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

My fiancee had her medical interview for our K-1 visa. She obtained from the doctor the envelope (mysterious brown envelope that can't be opened) and the X-ray. I am beginning to fill out the paperwork for my AOS but I have no DS-3025 (vaccination record). Is the record inside the envelope? I had my fiancee call the doctor, and he won't tell her whether the folder contains a DS-3025. When my fiancee went she did not tell the doctor anything about vaccinations so I don't see how he could have filled out that form, except, she says that it is obvious she has all the immunizations because they are required for public school. Is the DS-3025 in the packet and is it filled out showing that she has these shots? If not, since she has no vaccination record will she need to get all of these immunizations again in the United States before we file for AOS?

Thanks!

Before the interview, she could go back to the doctor with the sealed envelope. Have them open it, make a copy of the DS3025 for her, then reseal it in a new envelope since they are the official sealers of the envelope. However, if she took no records to be recorded on the DS-3025 I don't know how it could contain useful information.

Most people take records to the medical exam from their personal doctors or shot cards parents sometimes keep to show the schools. I don't know Equador procedures on recording immunizations. The record on the DS-3025 needs specific dates and types of vaccines recorded. If she had chickenpox as a child, then that should have been discussed, verified and recorded on the form as VH (varicella history) so she doesn't have to get the varicella shot. It doesn't seem like hers would have anything accepted by USCIS for AOS, as you described things. That's why I think it would be useless to have a copy of the current DS3025 that's in the envelope.

A person does not have to get any immunizations to receive a K1 visa because it's a NON-immigrant visa. Perhaps the panel physician in Equador takes the easy way out and doesn't discuss immunizations since she will get the visa without them. However, once in the US, in order to become a permanent resident (immigrant), shots are required. At this point she will have to get a civil surgeon in the US to prepare an immunization record on the I-693. Most adults only need MMR and Tdap (and Varicella if they can't prove chickenpox disease.) HPV and Zoster were dropped from the list in December.

[TBoneTX 47,262]

It's cheaper & easier to get any "missing" vaccinations done while in Ecuador, si man.

Josh, you may be well aware of this crucial necessity, but are you going to be in Guayaquil for V.'s Jan. 26 interview? If not, your preparations for AOS are objectively presumptive and premature; rather, you should be preparing for a 221g or a refusal. Things in GYQ have NOT changed for the better. Alleviate my concerns, please.

[JoshyVeronica 0]

It's cheaper & easier to get any "missing" vaccinations done while in Ecuador, si man.

Josh, you may be well aware of this crucial necessity, but are you going to be in Guayaquil for V.'s Jan. 26 interview? If not, your preparations for AOS are objectively presumptive and premature; rather, you should be preparing for a 221g or a refusal. Things in GYQ have NOT changed for the better. Alleviate my concerns, please.

Having studied the Guayaquil reviews and having read many posts of yourself and others I am definitely attending the interview. Also, based on your recommendation I emailed the Embassy last Friday as well to confirm the appointment and have not received a response. I'd hate to show up to the interview after spending 700 bucks on airfare to find out that we had been rescheduled.

I know you'll appreciate this (from my fiancee):

"I told her you were coming, and if it maybe could be on a different date. She [woman scheduling interview] said that she checked the availability and that, that was the time and date they have for this month. She said "To be honest you are the the only one that is going to be interviewed, I am not even sure if they are going to let him in". They pretend that nobody knows that they deny the visa to anyone that applies for it and do not bring the fiance."

Tbone, did you receive a DS-3025? Did your fiancee have records off immunizations?

[TBoneTX 47,262]

Having studied the Guayaquil reviews and having read many posts of yourself and others I am definitely attending the interview. Also, based on your recommendation I emailed the Embassy last Friday as well to confirm the appointment and have not received a response. I'd hate to show up to the interview after spending 700 bucks on airfare to find out that we had been rescheduled.

Good deal, dude. Bear in mind that you should be in GYQ the day before -- one couple (VJers) were scheduled for the afternoon of one day, & the fiancee received a call from the consulate that morning at 9:30 and was told "Get here for your interview by 10:30, or you'll be rescheduled for [sometime weeks later]!" That's how far to trust them, and an indication of how far they need to be kicked.

She said "To be honest you are the the only one that is going to be interviewed, I am not even sure if they are going to let him in". They pretend that nobody knows that they deny the visa to anyone that applies for it and do not bring the fiance.

Those PIN girls know only how to stall callers long enough to make the 8 minutes run out so they have to call back for another $12, thus earning the PIN girls commissions. The one to whom your fiancee spoke needs to be re-educated.

Tbone, did you receive a DS-3025? Did your fiancee have records off immunizations?

I never saw what she got from her visa medical, and she never said, and we had no problems. However, before she left Ecuador, I had her talk with her medical clinic in her hometown, and to get a vaccination record (two copies, on letterhead with stamp) from them. Once I got her into the U.S., we called the office of Dr. L.E. Arnold (now retired from medical practice, sadly) and learned which other vaccinations would be needed for AOS. It turned out to be tetanus & MMR. We got those at our county health clinic.

You are entitled to (and should ask for!) a copy of the DS-3025 or vaccination record from the physician who gave her the medical there; if you can't get it for whatever reason, get her vaccination history as we did, and get the necessary inoculations while you're in Ecuador where it's cheaper. Those that I know of are TDaP, MMR, tetanus (if she got a diphtheria/pertussis shot without tetanus included), & chickenpox. (If she had chickenpox as a child, get a record of this from her clinic or family doctor.)

Also, if she had the "BCG" test as an infant, bear in mind that it can cause a false-positive reading for tuberculosis here when a PPT skin test is given. If BCG appears on her vaccination record, you can avert undue problems.

By the way, if she gets the visa, be SURE that she obtains a fresh Ecuador driver's license (or qualifies for her first one, if she doesn't drive) before she comes to the U.S. That way, she won't be housebound for several months during the AOS process... Ecuatorianas get cabin fever at the best of times, and are homesick most of the time for the first full year, so her having freedom to get around will be priceless for you both, si man!

Edited January 14, 2010 by TBoneTX