How do folks under 125% of poverty pay these fees?

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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[SuperDuper! 230]

Now now, don't push it.... the Bible is a work of fiction and we all know it.

*BOOM* Sounded the thunderclap as the godless chica was struck down by lightning.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How do they pay the fees?

Either they can't or they pay them with difficulty, its quite deliberate.

[ValerieA 350]

nope, no power in ot or around bare boobies.

I think I will use this knowledge for evil

[Ban Hammer 14,573]

I think I will use this knowledge for evil

i suspect there's gonna be a line forming shortly.

[peejay 327]

Jeez, too bad the Native Americans didn't practice the anti-immigration sentiment being expressed on this thread.

And what does 18th and 19th century American Indian policy have to do with modern 21st century immigration policy in what will soon be 2010? As if modern America even remotely resembles frontier era America. Yes...the entire world as well as America has changed since the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries. If you haven't noticed, America is now an industrialized first world welfare state that didn't even exist throughout most of American history. Modern immigration policy should not be a burden on the American people nor is it a charity event. If any government policy is an imposed burden on the American people it should be abolished by those it burdens. This is a far cry from being "anti-immigrant". It is called "modern reality". Reckless importation of mass poverty into a modern welfare state is not exactly very prudent nor is it sustainable. Especially with the 12 trillion $ + national debt we already are mired in. Immigration is a privilege...not a right. No one has a right to immigrate to America in unlimited numbers just because they want to or because it benefits themselves nor do they have a right to a better life at the taxpayer's expense. American Indians did not have the resources to regulate immigration in the 18th and 19th centuries... America does and has done so throughout history as it sees fit and in the best interests of the American people.

Modern nations all over the world regulate who comes into their countries and for what purpose. Yes...foreigners do have to have a visa to travel to or to live in countries all over the world. America is no different and has the sovereign right to regulate entry just like all the other countries do. Is this so difficult to understand? Is it difficult to comprehend that the world of the 18th century is vastly different than the world of the 21st century?

[Malrothien 6]

Peejay, you quite obviously did not get the point of Val's post. Right over your head.

[HannahP 119]

Ugh, this topic bothers me every time it comes up.

I think the biggest factor is where you live. I'm in the midwest with fairly low rent and utility fees. We had to use a sponsor but easily slipped by on below poverty wages without help from anyone.

It's these old dudes who bring over their high-maintenance foreign brides that are to blame.

[Malrothien 6]

I find it interesting that the OP hasn't come back.

[HannahP 119]

I find it interesting that the OP hasn't come back.

Tsch. He was either trolling or soon facing the reality of actually having to live under the poverty line.

[Jamaican JNR 2]

I am just very curious, I am way over poverty line and I have, felt, these fee's, required trips etc. Some one that needs a sponsor ?????

Family, friends and co-sponsors

[NickD 203]

When I was serving in the military with college afterwards, getting hitched was the very last thing on my mind. And two cannot live as cheaply as one.

I can recall as a kid having fun playing in the mud with sticks and stones, and even building a fun soap box racer out of an old baby buggy. Did get into some problems with the law by mounting an old gasoline washing machine motor on an old bicycle. Not too much problems, they made me take it apart.

Today, kids want the latest overpriced video game systems, fashion designed clothes, ATV's, motorcycles, cars, and a nice home to live in. If you don't get them that stuff, have to pay a therapist because they have some kind of complex. Either cost a lot of money.

Did drive my kids from the shack I grew up in to the school I had attended, was 4.2 miles that I had to walk everyday, but they don't want to hear that. But we did have one thing back then that our kids don't have today, opportunity, so I do fear for their survival. Three of my kids that entered the medical field are doing very well, but that may soon change, the other three are struggling.

[SuperDuper! 230]

Ugh, this topic bothers me every time it comes up.

I think the biggest factor is where you live. I'm in the midwest with fairly low rent and utility fees. We had to use a sponsor but easily slipped by on below poverty wages without help from anyone.

It's these old dudes who bring over their high-maintenance foreign brides that are to blame.

And just what country or region are you referring too? If you won't say, then don't say.

You clearly have Asian women in mind and clearly don't know what you are talking about!

[Staashi 371]

Personally, I agree with you that if you need a sponsor, you're not ready to support someone else.

I feel the same way. International love and the immigration process is a priviledge, not a right. Supporting someone's path to residency and/or citizenship isn't for the weak of heart or the shallowed pockets. The only time we needed assistance with the process was during the naturalization application. We had both lost our jobs, so my mom gave hubby a check for Christmas 2007 in the amount of $675 so that he could become a citizen. He was so cute - she had put it in a box and put a bow on it. He's looking at the check and then sees that it is made out to DHS and he had no idea what it was for. I was like - that's for your citizenship, silly! Other than that, I took care of all the fees for K1/AOS - we dealt with ROC together. It was tough, but we never needed a sponsor.

One other thing - I had a friend who got a waiver for the ROC. It was because he was in dire straits as his wife was having chemotherapy for breast cancer; all their money was going to treatment and she was unable to work. So, yes, USCIS does have a heart, but you better have a phenomenally good excuse for not being able to pay.

[peejay 327]

Peejay, you quite obviously did not get the point of Val's post. Right over your head.

No...I got it and I responded to it. You just don't like what I had to say.

For Val to insinuate that 21st century America must have open borders and unregulated immigration because of 18th and 19th century American frontier era policies is absurd. The America of 18th and 19th centuries does not exist anymore and is not relevant to modern 21st century immigration policy. Apparently that went right over your head.