EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration

[alienlovechild 75]

The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming.

Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the “Hardtalk” program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong.

“I don’t think it will be melting by 2030. … That may have been a mistake,” he said.

Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present.

The BBC reporter accused Leipold and Greenpeace of releasing “misleading information” and using “exaggeration and alarmism.”

Leipold’s admission that Greenpeace issued misleading information is a major embarrassment to the organization, which often has been accused of alarmism but has always insisted that it applies full scientific rigor in its global-warming pronouncements.

Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization’s practice of “emotionalizing issues” in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion.

Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world. He said annual growth rates of 3 percent to 8 percent cannot continue without serious consequences for the climate.

“We will definitely have to move to a different concept of growth. … The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”

(You can watch the full BBC interview with Leipold here, and to learn more about Greenpeace-style global warming hysteria and its potential toll on the American dream, go to www.noteviljustwrong.com, the Web site for the forthcoming documentary “Not Evil Just Wrong,” by Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney.)

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/amcelhin...e-exaggeration/

[Otto 83]

Thought I'd pop in the BBC video..

[Peikko 1,575]

Realistically, these growth rates are not sustainable -

Did you notice though Alien the line of questioning that led to this admission? The journalistic integrity? This is the 'librul' BBC that produced this admission, not Fox news

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Does this mean the Northwest Passage will not be opening anytime soon?

[Peikko 1,575]

[NickD 203]

Was kind of difficult to believe the Arctic circle at 90* latitude was melting when we were getting -45* F blast from the circle at 45* latitude many times last winter. Arctic blasts this last July putting us in the 30's were quite as bad, but we recorded the coldest July since records were kept this last month. Unusual for us to have sub-zero weather extending into October and March, but that doesn't mean anything, only two winters in a roll like that with very cool summers. If Gore's polar bear is jumping from one ice pad to another in the Arctic, that polar bear could have spent his winters here.

Speaking of Gore wanting to return our CO2 levels back to the 60's, that is easy to do, bring back those coal burning steel mills and dismantle the EPA with all that ####### they put on our vehicles. EPA is the one hurting the environment instead of protecting it, history is making that statement and Gore is inadvertently confirming it. We didn't have an EPA in the 60's when according to Gore, our environment was much better.

[Peikko 1,575]

Well, that's a new one that's for sure.

You might want to address numbers somewhere along the line though, if you wish to pursue this

[Ban Hammer 13,716]

Realistically, these growth rates are not sustainable -

Did you notice though Alien the line of questioning that led to this admission? The journalistic integrity? This is the 'librul' BBC that produced this admission, not Fox news

maybe bbc has overtaken fox news as a right wing mouthpiece

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Basically Greenpeace has long been known to be considerably like PETA (though Greenpeace does tell a little truth, in contrast to PETA's never), and its members are largely chops.

[alienlovechild 75]

Did you notice though Alien the line of questioning that led to this admission? The journalistic integrity? This is the 'librul' BBC that produced this admission, not Fox news

You mean Fox never has raised issues like. . . ?

"Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present."

As for the BBC, I'd rather not have the government running the news here for obvious reasons.

[Peikko 1,575]

Did you notice though Alien the line of questioning that led to this admission? The journalistic integrity? This is the 'librul' BBC that produced this admission, not Fox news

You mean Fox never has raised issues like. . . ?

"Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present."

As for the BBC, I'd rather not have the government running the news here for obvious reasons.

The BBC is not the government. It's funded by license money and is an independent body. It is 'liberal' with a small l but it's not political in any sense of the word. You would rather have Murdoch news - for obvious reasons

Oh, and no that's not my point. To produce an in depth interview you need to conduct in depth research, not something that sound bite journalism encourages.

[luckytxn 2,265]

No the BBC is considered very Liberal and has always been considered this way.

I also like the mention that there has been even more warming trends in the past. Like all the other ice ages and warming trends that are a natural cycle here on earth. Of course the government can't control the citizenry if there is nothing to scare the public.

[Peikko 1,575]

No the BBC is considered very Liberal and has always been considered this way.

I also like the mention that there has been even more warming trends in the past. Like all the other ice ages and warming trends that are a natural cycle here on earth. Of course the government can't control the citizenry if there is nothing to scare the public.

What do you mean by that, exactly? Please, expand. I totally understand and agree that the BBC is liberal:

• Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\
• Function: adjective
• Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
• Date: 14th century

1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth

2 a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver> b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c : ample, full

3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious

4 : not literal or strict : loose <a liberal translation>

5 : broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

But please, expound how you believe Liberal ideology is espoused and promoted by the BBC

6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms

I'm entirely fascinated by this and think it demands an expansive explanation.

I've added some dictionary definitions, you know, to help you out a bit.

Edited August 19, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Danno 1,228]

No the BBC is considered very Liberal and has always been considered this way.

I also like the mention that there has been even more warming trends in the past. Like all the other ice ages and warming trends that are a natural cycle here on earth. Of course the government can't control the citizenry if there is nothing to scare the public.

What do you mean by that, exactly? Please, expand. I totally understand and agree that the BBC is liberal:

• Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\
• Function: adjective
• Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
• Date: 14th century

1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth

2 a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver> b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c : ample, full

3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious

4 : not literal or strict : loose <a liberal translation>

5 : broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

But please, expound how you believe Liberal ideology is espoused and promoted by the BBC

6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms

I'm entirely fascinated by this and think it demands an expansive explanation.

I've added some dictionary definitions, you know, to help you out a bit.

Time to update your definitions MC, Everyone knows what a Political liberal is... and it's not limited to what it was in years gone by.

... but as we are in the USA we should probable go with "Local jargon".

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

No the BBC is considered very Liberal and has always been considered this way.

I also like the mention that there has been even more warming trends in the past. Like all the other ice ages and warming trends that are a natural cycle here on earth. Of course the government can't control the citizenry if there is nothing to scare the public.

What do you mean by that, exactly? Please, expand. I totally understand and agree that the BBC is liberal:

• Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\
• Function: adjective
• Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
• Date: 14th century

1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth

2 a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver> b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c : ample, full

3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious

4 : not literal or strict : loose <a liberal translation>

5 : broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

But please, expound how you believe Liberal ideology is espoused and promoted by the BBC

6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms

I'm entirely fascinated by this and think it demands an expansive explanation.

I've added some dictionary definitions, you know, to help you out a bit.

Time to update your definitions MC, Everyone knows what a Political liberal is... and it's not limited to what it was in years gone by.

... but as we are in the USA we should probable go with "Local jargon".

The term "liberal" has been returned to its historic context, according to Steve. The term of art is now "progressive". Please make a note of that in all further posts.

Edited August 19, 2009 by Mister_Bill