Bill Cosby comments on Obama’s statement on Harvard prof’s arrest

[Heracles 417]

You are way to easy.

Yeah I need to lower it quite a few notches so that you can understand. Not as if anyone is going to get anything worth more than a penny out of you.

Edited July 24, 2009 by haza

[William33 110]

My guess is this incident lies somewhere in the middle, with the officer truly feeling he was provoked into the arrest, and from a police perspective rightly so.

The homeowner of course feels the opposite, and felt comfortable being a horses*** to the officer to the point of getting arrested, but felt that since it was his home, he was free to be a horses***. From his perspective as a rightful homeowner, he feels wronged, and perhaps to a degree that is also correct.

In all my years of working with police officers, it pays to remember that you won't be cussing them out of doing their jobs. They have tremendous leeway on the scene to warn, to cite, and if they feel necessary arrest. Being obnoxious most often bypasses their willingness to take the warning route. That leaves options b and c.

Very well stated!!

Nothing more to add.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You are way to easy.

Yeah I need to lower it quite a few notches so that you can understand..

The funny thing is, you believe that. You make yourself look bad everytime you post. This is entertainment for me, for you it is serious and you think you can actually get people over to agree with your point of view. Now that is amusing. Really, you're not as great as you think you are.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

My guess is this incident lies somewhere in the middle, with the officer truly feeling he was provoked into the arrest, and from a police perspective rightly so.

The homeowner of course feels the opposite, and felt comfortable being a horses*** to the officer to the point of getting arrested, but felt that since it was his home, he was free to be a horses***. From his perspective as a rightful homeowner, he feels wronged, and perhaps to a degree that is also correct.

In all my years of working with police officers, it pays to remember that you won't be cussing them out of doing their jobs. They have tremendous leeway on the scene to warn, to cite, and if they feel necessary arrest. Being obnoxious most often bypasses their willingness to take the warning route. That leaves options b and c.

Very well stated!!

Nothing more to add.

He shoud have shown the officer more respect, that's for sure.

[Heracles 417]

The funny thing is, you believe that. You make yourself look bad everytime you post. This is entertainment for me, for you it is serious and you think you can actually get people over to agree with your point of view. Now that is amusing. Really, you're not as great as you think you are.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The funny thing is, you believe that. You make yourself look bad everytime you post. This is entertainment for me, for you it is serious and you think you can actually get people over to agree with your point of view. Now that is amusing. Really, you're not as great as you think you are.

Don't worry, you'll be back home in Utopia soon.

[William33 110]

Spooky and Marc, please stop conversing....This dialogue is going nowhere fast.

Thanks.

[Heracles 417]

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Edited July 24, 2009 by haza

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Spooky and Marc, please stop conversing....This dialogue is going nowhere fast.

Thanks.

Weird. I see many spooky posts in this thread but not a single marc post. It must be my computer.

[Jenn! 918]

not everyone has that type of relationship with their neighbors.

Especially not here in the Boston area, I'd have to say.

maybe boston ain't that great, eh?

Depends on what you like. I don't really care to know my neighbors. Nosy bastards would probably call the cops on me.

don't sound too friendly there in any event.

It's not for everybody, especially those not raised here. For me it's normal. I have friends to be friendly with. I don't really care to make small talk with strangers, call it what you like.

I'd be glad to not have you move here since you wouldn't like it.

so you're not friends with your neighbors?

and it's a given i wouldn't like it - too crowded.

Who do I look like, Mr. Rogers?

Some people are friends with their neighbors, but Boston is kind of known for that. It's definitely not like living in the south (the only comparison I have). People are very private here and do not open up. In fact, I used to live in Cambridge, probably not far from Gates, not that I would have known it.

They are all on the internet chatting to people they have never met and are hundreds and thousands of miles away and they call these people friends. Does this "feel" familiar?

Hmmmm, no, not really. Maybe I just don't use the word "friend" as loosely as other people do.

[doodlebugg 10]

The Officers responded in the way they were trained, which was proper.

Then politics took over proper judgment.

So Cambridge police are trained to enter a home without a warrant? And you consider that to be proper?

As for neighbors, I have never spoken to the people who live to my left. They have lived here for about 5 years now. Our relationship consists of a weak smile when we cross paths. The neighbor to my right is more like a grandpa but we've learned to duck and cover when he's out since it would involve more than an hour's conversation on what we're doing wrong with our lawn if we didn't.

My daughter was almost abducted two years ago. When the police arrived at the scene they told me that a "neighbor" sometimes saw a "suspicious" woman in a "turban" driving around my street. Guess what...................that's ME!!!! I wasn't wearing my scarf when I spoke to the police officer since I was so caught off guard and upset when I left my house but that about sums up life here for me north of Boston.

[William33 110]

Spooky and Marc, please stop conversing....This dialogue is going nowhere fast.

Thanks.

Weird. I see many spooky posts in this thread but not a single marc post. It must be my computer.

Oops, I meant Haza....

The Officers responded in the way they were trained, which was proper.

Then politics took over proper judgment.

So Cambridge police are trained to enter a home without a warrant? And you consider that to be proper?

If a suspected burglary is in progress, then yes, they can enter a residence.

[Danno 1,228]

To me the most unfortunate part of this saga is the effort by too many to link this to "Racial profiling".

Has this professor been stopped and arrested on the street because they were looking for a criminal who happened to be black, then you would have an applicable situation.

Once sent to the house, the cop had a duty to investigate anyone ...of any color.

[Heracles 417]

To me the most unfortunate part of this saga is the effort by too many to link this to "Racial profiling".

Has this professor been stopped and arrested on the street because they were looking for a criminal who happened to be black, then you would have an applicable situation.

Once sent to the house, the cop had a duty to investigate anyone ...of any color.

Facts mean nothing in such situations. White cop vs Black professor. By default, white cop will be in the wrong.

Being able to get away with stuff like this is why so-called professors like that stay in the US. Overseas he would have been laughed at. In the US, such bs flies. Especially when you have those fake crusader types who think they are standing up for injustice; even though in reality simply protecting reverse discrimination.

Edited July 24, 2009 by haza

[one...two...tree 2,762]

My guess is this incident lies somewhere in the middle, with the officer truly feeling he was provoked into the arrest, and from a police perspective rightly so.

The homeowner of course feels the opposite, and felt comfortable being a horses*** to the officer to the point of getting arrested, but felt that since it was his home, he was free to be a horses***. From his perspective as a rightful homeowner, he feels wronged, and perhaps to a degree that is also correct.

In all my years of working with police officers, it pays to remember that you won't be cussing them out of doing their jobs. They have tremendous leeway on the scene to warn, to cite, and if they feel necessary arrest. Being obnoxious most often bypasses their willingness to take the warning route. That leaves options b and c.

Excellent post.