Do I stand a chance?

[Sweetgirl 0]

Laila,

just let me point out the amount of times you contradict yourself in your posts, then tell me if I have reasons to believe that you only entered into marriage fraudulently. Shall we begin?

1st, you say this:

Here is my brief story. I got married to a US citizen, after a whirlwind romance in my country.

Although we were legally married, he applied for a K-1 visa for me and a K-2 for my daughter from a previous marriage, saying it would take less time for us to get to the USA.

But then, you say this:

In the case of my second marriage and divorce, I had much more problems because:

-It was my choice. And honestly, I only had known him 3 months prior to marriage. He was long distance, living in the USA.

Then...

I think that if they ask me why I stayed outside the USA for so long, I would be able to answer satisfactorily. But if they ask me about my marriage, husband or current address, I would have a hard time coming up with answers that are neither lies, nor compromise my case either. I hope they won't ask any questions at all and just wish me luck. Oh, how I wish it would be as easy and simple as that!

If your marriage was truly bona fide like you say, then there shouldn't be anything to be paranoid of, nor worrying about either. Just be honest, tell the truth, make sure that your answers and/or story adds up and last but not least, pray to God that your ex-husband's marriage fraud allegation has no bearing on your case.

Of the two below reasons, which is really the one behind you wanting to return to America?

Is it this one?

And had my daughter and I not faced any stigmatizations, I would not have thought about going back to the USA.

Or is it this one?

"...but I was studying for my USMLE exams, had enrolled in the Kaplan course, filed all exam fees with the ECFMG and still have all paperwork related to that."

And yet again, more conflicting statements! While the three below posts show just how poor you claim to have been:

As for income tax in 2005, I had no income in 2005, neither here in the USA, nor anywhere else. While married, I was a stay-at-home wife, per my ex-husband's orders.

-Divorce filed by husband, as I did not have the filing fees in Oct. 2005.

As for the divorce proceedings, I got nothing. One reason being that my lawyer was lousy. All she did for a $1,500 retainer (paid by the NGO), was make a few phone calls to my ex-husband's lawyer, answer a few of my calls, fax me a document and go to court in January 2006 for the final hearing, when I was no longer in the USA.

These other three seem to counter-claim them!

As for ties to the USA, I still have my bank account in the USA.

So, I paid a heavy price in terms of monetary loss, mental torture, emotional trauma and now, social stigmatization in my country.

I also have affadavits from the NGO, which helps victims of domestic abuse and helped me throughout the period of my divorce, from the time my husband threw me out of the house, until I returned to my country.

Why I went back to my country after the divorce? It is a long story, but like I said before, at that time my daughter had already returned to Pakistan, because of the unhealthy and in fact, dangerous environment there at home. And I could not arrange to send for her and join me in the US after my divorce.

Ok, so my questions are:

1. Where did you get the money to send your daughter back home?

2. Where did you get the money to bring your daughter back to the US?

3. Where did you get the money to send yourself back home?

4. Legal Aides DO NOT charge individuals for their services. Legal Aides get paid by the Agency they work for and don't get paid $1,500 for a divorce case. Hell, why are you even complaining about the retainer fee, when it wasn't even you who paid it? How do you even know this, when it is confidential info?

5. What do you mean you paid a heavy price in terms of monetary loss, if you had no money?

I also have affidavits from the NGO, which helps victims of domestic abuse and helped me throughout the period of my divorce, from the time my husband threw me out of the house, until I returned to my country.

As for my husband's abusive behaviour and lousy treatment, I had to call the police twice. He was careful not to hit me, for he said that if he did, it would be held against him. But all other abuses could not be seen, nor proved, so it was ok.

So how do you intend to use the VAW Act and re-enter the US, when/if there were no signs of physical abuse on you, nor any other abuses could be seen, nor proved? Seems then to me as if your domestic violence allegations were all falsely fabricated and that the NGO "helped" you back 'em up.

But NOW ladies and gentlemen, HERE'S THE KILLER POST! Read the CAPITALIZED SENTENCES!

It is very hard for an outsider to understand the dynamics of a couple's relationship, what goes on within a house and why. There is a lot more I don't want to reveal. But it was me who walked out, AFTER I FOUND OUT THAT HIS FAMILY WHO LIVES HERE, especially his mother and sister-in-law, are way too involved and interfering and want him to divorce me. Like they had wanted him to divorce his previous wives. He had been threatening to throw me out of the house. He kept telling me that he plays dirty. So I just told him I didn't play dirty and wouldn't stoop down to his level. And I sought help from an NGO and walked out. The reason I did not file for divorce was that I did not have money to do so. The reason I did not fight him in court was b/c I had heard from his family and himself, how he had made ex-wife number two suffer in court. I did not want any of that.

So Laila, are you here in the US or in Pakistan?

And I'm pretty sure you are aware that a USC divorcing his/her immigrant spouse only strengthens a domestic violence restraining order for green card purposes.

Dmartmar, you will not understand this. So please go on with your staunch belief that I married my ex-husband for green card. And that I used him.

Yes, I DO understand this. I was in your husband's shoes about 8 mos. ago, also with an Argentinian MD who had the same plans you currently have. Matter of fact, you and her must be siblings. She did the exact same things you're doing and saying.

Hi Dmartmar and everyone,

Dmartmar i know that you;ve been heart and its a very sad story and i wish you the best to get well and start to trust people again . There are still a lots of good women in the world ,believe me.

You can define the person who really honest or not ,by paying attention only to their actions,but not what they say. The body language and the acts of the person may tell you alot. But words are just the words and nothing else.

Laila ,its just one of the unlucky women . I do hope that she will meet the Real Gentleman someday who is gonna treat her very well and she will become a happy woman. I am just a little bit concerned about that they knew each other for 3 month only before to get married,as i know that most of american men dont get marry so soon,but who knows?... There are some type of men exist who just meet a woman and wanna get marry on a second day ,,depends on a guy. These fast marriages do happen especially in Italian society ,but may happen anywhere else too. Dont find me naive,but still .................................

Concerning to her story i can defentely say that she didnt commite any fraudulent act.

The Sham Marriage would be as:

1) If she has never met her husband in person ,before to come over to the U.S and she basically wouldnt know who he is actaully is ,he would maybe only saw his picture...

2) She would look for to get into the United States by finding a guy somehow and paying him for him to marry her.

3) She would identify her intentions to get A Green Card by paying the guy and the guy would promise to comply with the terms until she gets the Green Card.

So,that is the Real Fraudulent marriage ,that what the INS is looking for.

If any of these things occured in Leila's intentions that is really very bad and i would say Shame on you Leila for that.

The marriage seems to be entered in good faith by Leila in the first place.,but just didnt work out because of the marrying too soon.

Sincerely.

[dmartmar 1]

The marriage seems to have been entered into in good faith by Leila in the first place, but it just didn't work out because they got married too soon.

I totally agree with you.

Which means that Laila shouldn't be taking advantage of the situation, since it was her mistake too.

Edited July 16, 2006 by dmartmar

[yogib37 3]

I did not marry my ex husband for the green card. If that is what you are implying at. If I had, I would have not returned to my country even before my divorce decree was awarded.

But YOU DID return to your country AFTER you got the green card!

I have a question for you and this is not for the OP.

the question is.. WHY ARE YOU BEING SUCH A CHOPF##K?

No need for your ####### comments if you can't be supportive. She has and is going thru a hard time in her life.. now dont add anymore stress.

I am sorry that he got burned. But it is not healthy or fair to become suspicious of every one else on account of one person.

I am suspicious of you on your account, just based on the below info. YOU posted:

my time line is:

-got married in April 2003 in my country.

-ex-husband applied for K-1 visa in May 2003

-got K-1 and K-2 Visas in June 2004.

-came to USA in Oct 2004

-got conditional green cards in June 2005

-my daughter was sent back home because of the unsafe environment in July 2005

-divorce filed by husband, as I did not have filing fees in Oct 2005.

-I signed the divorce papers in Nov 2005 and came back to my country.

-divorce decree awarded by court in Jan 2006, my lawyer represented me at the court.

No. I think you are misunderstanding me. Probably because of the missing information.

We got here in Oct 2004. At that time it was just me , my daughter and my then husband.

His son got back from UK end of January 2005. For the first couple of months he did not get into any drugs or porno stuff and his friends were nice boys.

Then he made friends with junkies, got into drugs and pornogrpahy, breaking in the house with his friends in early morning hours and other stuff. That started happening around April/ May. And things went bad pretty quickly. That was when I really felt that my daughter was not safe there.

You say his son got back home at the end of Jan. '05 and didn't start doing drugs and/or watching porno until April or May of that same year. So basically, you and your daughter stayed in that "unsafe" environment throughout the whole month of June, which coincidentally is the month you got your GCs in, then exactly a month later (July) you sent your daughter back home, but already with a GC in hand.

If it was so "unsafe" and "dangerous" to live in the same household before you both got your GCs; why did you then wait until AFTER you got your GCs to leave?

why you have to be suspicious. Your not a fed agent and she does not have to prove dilly ####### to you.

YOUR A TROLL.. Get lost loser

[diadromous mermaid 36]

The marriage seems to have been entered into in good faith by Leila in the first place, but it just didn't work out because they got married too soon.

I totally agree with you.

Which means that Laila shouldn't be taking advantage of the situation, since it was her mistake too.

"Taking advantage of the situation"? What advantage is being taken? Succinctly, if an alien, in this case laila, married in good faith then she has a legal right to be afforded the opportunity to continue to reside in the USA.

The Sham Marriage would be as:

1) If she has never met her husband in person ,before to come over to the U.S and she basically wouldnt know who he is actaully is ,he would maybe only saw his picture...

2) She would look for to get into the United States by finding a guy somehow and paying him for him to marry her.

3) She would identify her intentions to get A Green Card by paying the guy and the guy would promise to comply with the terms until she gets the Green Card.

So,that is the Real Fraudulent marriage ,that what the INS is looking for.

Not true, Sweetgirl. Fraudulent marriages are not only restricted to such scenarios. There are also many cases of "marriage for immigration benefit only" when an alien feigns love and interest and the US citizen is none the wiser until the alien, having achieved his or her initial objective, then terminates the relationship.

[Donna A 4]

first of all...she is a doctor. she has stated already she was studying for her test. she doesnt need to marry anyone for a green card. all she has to do is pass those tests...apply for residency programs...and come and do her residency and then adjust her status. there are ways of coming here when u have an education other then getting married. professionals (expecially doctors) are doing this every day.

i dont believe she caused any kind of fraud just because she only knew the guy 3 months. alot of people in the united states do the same thing. it happens.

[desert_fox 32]

She has already received a fradulent visa the first time around. As far as Im concerned she doesnt deserve a second chance. I do know that if the USCIS knows that she received a fraudelent visa, they would probably give her a lifetime ban. As a matter of fact they should go after the ex-hubby for filing a fraudelent application and her for filing a fraudelent visa application.

[Boiler 43,736]

She has already received a fradulent visa the first time around. As far as Im concerned she doesnt deserve a second chance. I do know that if the USCIS knows that she received a fraudelent visa, they would probably give her a lifetime ban. As a matter of fact they should go after the ex-hubby for filing a fraudelent application and her for filing a fraudelent visa application.

Well I guess first it has to come to light.

But I doubt if there would be anyway around it if it did.

None of us will ever know the full story, actually none of know if there is any validity to any us, including me.

But I am prepared to give the benefit of doubt from what I have seen.

[Sweetgirl 0]

She has already received a fradulent visa the first time around. As far as Im concerned she doesnt deserve a second chance. I do know that if the USCIS knows that she received a fraudelent visa, they would probably give her a lifetime ban. As a matter of fact they should go after the ex-hubby for filing a fraudelent application and her for filing a fraudelent visa application.

HI! I dont think that American Embassy wouldnt recognize her intetnitons while issuing the visa to her.She was intervied at the Embassy before to come over to the U.S .

They can tell if the fiancee is coming over with the fraudulent intentions or not.

They wouldnt issue the visa to her at the first place ,if that would be the case

[Boiler 43,736]

She has already received a fradulent visa the first time around. As far as Im concerned she doesnt deserve a second chance. I do know that if the USCIS knows that she received a fraudelent visa, they would probably give her a lifetime ban. As a matter of fact they should go after the ex-hubby for filing a fraudelent application and her for filing a fraudelent visa application.

HI! I dont think that American Embassy wouldnt recognize her intetnitons while issuing the visa to her.She was intervied at the Embassy before to come over to the U.S .

They can tell if the fiancee is coming over with the fraudulent intentions or not.

They wouldnt issue the visa to her at the first place ,if that would be the case

Visa's are issued to those with fradulent intent every day.

Just read some of the postings on this site, and they are a tiny fraction of the whole.

She lied to the Consulate, she said she was not married when she was.

[dmartmar 1]

Visa's are issued to those with fradulent intent every day.

Just read some of the postings on this site, and they are a tiny fraction of the whole.

She lied to the Consulate, she said she was not married when she was.

It wouldn't surprise me they set her up on purpose, to prove if whether or not she was going to do exactly what she's "apparently" trying to do.

[Boiler 43,736]

Visa's are issued to those with fradulent intent every day.

Just read some of the postings on this site, and they are a tiny fraction of the whole.

She lied to the Consulate, she said she was not married when she was.

It wouldn't surprise me they set her up on purpose, to prove if whether or not she was going to do exactly what she's "apparently" trying to do.

????

She has a GC?

[dmartmar 1]

I wonder why laila hasn't shown her face around here lately!

[JudeT 0]

Hi Laila,

I really feel sorry for your situation. Sometimes, other people just don't understand how difficult it is to go through such severe physical and emotional frustration unless they put themselves in the exact same situation. Please don't spend time arguing with Dmartmar who would never understand you because he painfully pitty himself as a victim of a "cheated marriage". He was spreading his anger over to other innocent people for his own failure.

I believe you are strong enough to take this challenge in your life and should be ready to fight for it. Unless you try it, you will never know about the result. Even it turns out to be bad, you won't be regret as you have tried your best.

I also believe in the fairness in the American Justice system. If not for immigration, you should also fight for your rights and your dignity while you were living here. I hope there's a lawyer who can help you sue your ex-husband who abused you and made your life miserable. It is absolutely not fair to accept evey consequence on your own. How could an Abuser just walk away like this??

I never had this kind experience. But through my search of immigration cases and what I heard from others, abusing alien wife happens quite often. The immigration law does help the abusee to obtain legal rights in some way. However, they don't help procecute the abusers. And, the marriage based immigration law basically protects US citizens, which offers the opportunities to those system abusers to target innocent aliens as weak victims.

Also, some US citizens do have bias on aliens who are obtaining legal rights through a very right way. It's the same as discrimination, endless debating. At this moment, you should focus on what you need to do to have the last try. Writing down a statement and consulting with the lawyer and FIGHT! Ignoring those curses or blames. I'm sure you will get you what you deserve for.

Best wishes!

[dmartmar 1]

And yet again, more contradictions by laila!

If:

Yes, I should have been the one to walk out on him. But, I did not want a second divorce. And I wanted us to work on our marriage, so that it would be a happy marriage.

Then:

But, it was me who walked out, after I found that his family who lives here, especially his mother and his sister-in-law, are way too involved, interfering and want him to divorce me.

And:

[JudeT 0]

I guess dmartmar have no better thing to do here. My understanding for laila's saying is: first "walk out" means "divorce", second "walk out" means physically walking out, leaving the home. Her intention was trying to keep the marriage. However, the dangerous environment made her not be able to continue living in that house.

No contradiction. Very natural and understandable.