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BORN IN THE USA?

Eligibility arguments to get court hearing

'For 1st time, we have a judge who's listening'

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Posted: July 13, 2009

9:52 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

In what ultimately could prove to be a turning point in the legal challenges to Barack Obama's eligibility to be president, a federal judge in California has planned a hearing on the merits of a federal court case raising those questions.

According to attorney Orly Taitz, who is working on multiple cases alleging Obama is a "usurper" because he doesn't meet the constitutional requirement that only a "natural born citizen" can be president, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter ruled in a hearing today that her case will move forward.

The hearing was on her motion for a default order against Obama, because although Taitz said she notified him of the action, Obama's attorneys did not make an appearance.

Her complaint was filed against the president on Jan. 20, the day of his inauguration, over his actions before he became president.

Taitz has told WND if her motion for default is granted she immediately would request access to Obama's birth records and other documentation that could determine his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

"I have a very clear case," Taitz said. "I think they dropped the ball. They didn't figure out this case filed on Jan. 20th, on the day of inauguration.

The case was filed on behalf of former U.S. Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a contestant in the 2008 presidential race in California, and others. Taitz said the case might have been confused with another Keyes vs. Obama case filed in the state's court system, which was thrown out and now is on appeal.

Want to turn up the pressure to learn the facts? Get your signs and postcards asking for the president's birth certificate documentation here.

"I will be asking for the release of his vital records," she has told WND.

The case, which also includes Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson as plaintiffs, names as defendant "Barack H Obama also known as Barack Hussein Obama II also known as Barack H Obama II also known as Barry Obama also known as Barry Soetoro."

"Plaintiffs respectfully submit that this Court's order finding or at least strongly suggesting that 4(e) service is insufficient, and requiring 4(i) service, regarding the subject matter of this lawsuit as against the sole served Defendant Barack H. Obama, is manifestly erroneous and plaintiffs accordingly request that the court reconsider its motion," she argued in her motion.

"In the alternative, plaintiffs move and request that this court exercise its sound discretion to certify a question for interlocutory appeal."

She told WND that at today's hearing, the judge issued no orders, but promised that the case would be moved forward and he would address the merits of the dispute. He said there would be no dismissals based on "procedural issues."

The judge said as a former Marine he recognizes the importance of having a constitutionally qualified president.

While no attorneys appeared on Obama's behalf, several members of the U.S. Attorney's office in California were in attendance, and sought to intervene on behalf of Obama over his actions before becoming president.

The judge ordered them to accept service of the lawsuit immediately and then continued the case to an unannounced date.

Taitz told WND, "For first time, we have a judge who's listening."

Multiple WND calls to various branches of the U.S. attorney's offices in California did not generate any response.

Taitz said she has some changes to make in the pleadings, but she was able to fully explain the reasons for her case.

"He [the judge] heard the whole thing," she said.

Keyes also is plaintiff in a separate case making its way through the California state court system. His opinions on the dispute have been captured on YouTube:

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He could stop this whole questioning of eligibility conjecture right now by providing proof of his citizenship...It's no more than the regular Joe Schmoo is asked to do on a constant basis, especially when applying for a job, you have to provide proof of eligibility....What's the problem here? He applied for a job as Prez....he got the job.....Now he ( like everyone else) has to prove eligibility.

..... Isn't his BC public record anyway like everyone elses?

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

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Liefde is een bloem zo teer dat hij knakt bij de minste aanraking en zo sterk dat niets zijn groei in de weg staat

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Take a large, almost round, rotating sphere about 8000 miles in diameter, surround it with a murky, viscous atmosphere of gases mixed with water vapor, tilt its axis so it wobbles back and forth with respect to a source of heat and light, freeze it at both ends and roast it in the middle, cover most of its surface with liquid that constantly feeds vapor into the atmosphere as the sphere tosses billions of gallons up and down to the rhythmic pulling of a captive satellite and the sun. Then try to predict the conditions of that atmosphere over a small area within a 5 mile radius for a period of one to five days in advance!

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You're great at posting pics...But not so much explaining why you think it is that he ( or anyone) should not have to prove citizenship-which I think ( especially on this site where we have all had to prove eligibility and citizenship and jump through hoops to prove eligibility for various reasons) is strange.... :thumbs:

It is shiznit that could be ended quickly......

Liefde is een bloem zo teer dat hij knakt bij de minste aanraking en zo sterk dat niets zijn groei in de weg staat

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Take a large, almost round, rotating sphere about 8000 miles in diameter, surround it with a murky, viscous atmosphere of gases mixed with water vapor, tilt its axis so it wobbles back and forth with respect to a source of heat and light, freeze it at both ends and roast it in the middle, cover most of its surface with liquid that constantly feeds vapor into the atmosphere as the sphere tosses billions of gallons up and down to the rhythmic pulling of a captive satellite and the sun. Then try to predict the conditions of that atmosphere over a small area within a 5 mile radius for a period of one to five days in advance!

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

Yes, actually some people ( alot on here, actually) DO have to carry around with them their employment auth cards/green cards that prove eligibility....Suprised you would think that's 'retarded'.....

Liefde is een bloem zo teer dat hij knakt bij de minste aanraking en zo sterk dat niets zijn groei in de weg staat

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Take a large, almost round, rotating sphere about 8000 miles in diameter, surround it with a murky, viscous atmosphere of gases mixed with water vapor, tilt its axis so it wobbles back and forth with respect to a source of heat and light, freeze it at both ends and roast it in the middle, cover most of its surface with liquid that constantly feeds vapor into the atmosphere as the sphere tosses billions of gallons up and down to the rhythmic pulling of a captive satellite and the sun. Then try to predict the conditions of that atmosphere over a small area within a 5 mile radius for a period of one to five days in advance!

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

Yes, actually some people ( alot on here, actually) DO have to carry around with them their employment auth cards/green cards that prove eligibility....Suprised you would think that's 'retarded'.....

Because it is. You have no obligation to prove to people who you work with that you are eligible to work. You do that when you are being processed with human resources.

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

Yes, actually some people ( alot on here, actually) DO have to carry around with them their employment auth cards/green cards that prove eligibility....Suprised you would think that's 'retarded'.....

Because it is. You have no obligation to prove to people who you work with that you are eligible to work. You do that when you are being processed with human resources.

Ok-well, did he provide proof when he was being 'processed'? PLUS it may be 'retarded' in your opinion, but doesn't USCIS tell Conditional and LPRs to keep their GC and/or EAD on then at all times incase of examination by an official? Well, even if I think it's silly this hoopla over BHO's citizenship-if an official ( like the court system) asks for his eligibility...He should provide it....IMO-Equal treatment for ALL and all that.

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Liefde is een bloem zo teer dat hij knakt bij de minste aanraking en zo sterk dat niets zijn groei in de weg staat

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IK HOU VAN JOU, MARK

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Take a large, almost round, rotating sphere about 8000 miles in diameter, surround it with a murky, viscous atmosphere of gases mixed with water vapor, tilt its axis so it wobbles back and forth with respect to a source of heat and light, freeze it at both ends and roast it in the middle, cover most of its surface with liquid that constantly feeds vapor into the atmosphere as the sphere tosses billions of gallons up and down to the rhythmic pulling of a captive satellite and the sun. Then try to predict the conditions of that atmosphere over a small area within a 5 mile radius for a period of one to five days in advance!

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Find the topic on where the chief justice of the supreme court can't even recite a simple oath a lot more interesting. Wish my 2nd grade nun teacher was there, would have hit him hard across the back of his hands with her pointer for not even memorizing stuff a lot longer than that.

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

Yes, actually some people ( alot on here, actually) DO have to carry around with them their employment auth cards/green cards that prove eligibility....Suprised you would think that's 'retarded'.....

Because it is. You have no obligation to prove to people who you work with that you are eligible to work. You do that when you are being processed with human resources.

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This sort of thinking brought us Nazism and other proud dictators - who knew?

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I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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Why rolling eyes? Everyone has to prove eligibility for employment , don't they? He got the job as Prez, and if some of his 'employers' want verification ( which we ALL have to provide when we take a job)....So what? Plus it would stop the whole 'he isn't American ' crud....So time and resources in the CA court system can be spent on other things ( like sorting out MJ's messed up finances and other important things like that......) :rolleyes:

yes, you do have to prove your eligibilty for employment.... to your companies HR department. Should you have to carry around your employment authorization forms with you to show random people whom you work with? This is retarded, and once again, it's a WorldNet Daily posting........

Yes, actually some people ( alot on here, actually) DO have to carry around with them their employment auth cards/green cards that prove eligibility....Suprised you would think that's 'retarded'.....

Because it is. You have no obligation to prove to people who you work with that you are eligible to work. You do that when you are being processed with human resources.

:thumbs:

This sort of thinking brought us Nazism and other proud dictators - who knew?

So you think it's OK for regular folks who have a GC to be forced to carry it and produce it on demand Nazism? You're right-I didn't know!

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You're great at posting pics...But not so much explaining why you think it is that he ( or anyone) should not have to prove citizenship-which I think ( especially on this site where we have all had to prove eligibility and citizenship and jump through hoops to prove eligibility for various reasons) is strange.... :thumbs:

It is shiznit that could be ended quickly......

I think the whole assumption that the President is not a born USC is beyond absurd. Really.

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