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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Hi all.

So a mutual friend introduced my girlfriend and me. We have mostly been doing the distance thing, but I did get to go down and spend 3 weeks in Peru with her. She just got a tourist visa (10 years) and is coming up for a week in April.

Our plan really is to get married in Peru in October-ish (after I get all the paperwork together). But, kind of on a lark, we have been talking about flying down to Las Vegas and getting a quickie marriage just for the two of us. We wanted to keep it secret and everything and we would still go forward with the marrying in Peru plan. The question I have is: would this Vegas marriage cause us problems when we initiate the visa process after marrying in Peru?

I bet I know the answer, but spring time is making me feel all irresponsible :)

Mark

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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hmm.... lots of stuff here. I will let others weigh in with all the fraud talk about using a tourist visa to come in country and then planning to get married.

If she goes back and you go through the CR-1 it shouldn't be a big deal. If she stays after the Vegas wedding then that's where the fraud comes in.

Sounds like it will be a great story to tell when all the dust settles.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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hmm.... lots of stuff here. I will let others weigh in with all the fraud talk about using a tourist visa to come in country and then planning to get married.

If she goes back and you go through the CR-1 it shouldn't be a big deal. If she stays after the Vegas wedding then that's where the fraud comes in.

Sounds like it will be a great story to tell when all the dust settles.

Not really planned (well, I guess at this point it is, huh?) She is going back after the week. She has a son and a job to get back to. I hadn't considered it being "fraud". But I guess it could definitely be construed that way. But it really is just a silly, innocent and romantic idea on our part. I know that wouldn't matter a whole lot in the eyes of a consular official, but I add it here for the benefit of any who wish to comment here in the forum.

Mark :)

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Hi all.

So a mutual friend introduced my girlfriend and me. We have mostly been doing the distance thing, but I did get to go down and spend 3 weeks in Peru with her. She just got a tourist visa (10 years) and is coming up for a week in April.

Our plan really is to get married in Peru in October-ish (after I get all the paperwork together). But, kind of on a lark, we have been talking about flying down to Las Vegas and getting a quickie marriage just for the two of us. We wanted to keep it secret and everything and we would still go forward with the marrying in Peru plan. The question I have is: would this Vegas marriage cause us problems when we initiate the visa process after marrying in Peru?

I bet I know the answer, but spring time is making me feel all irresponsible :)

Mark

She can come here and get married on the visitors visa, no problem there. However, since you are intending on doing this, she cannot legally stay and AOS.

But since you state she is going back to Peru, - no issues.

She can go home, and you can start the CR-1 process for her to come back!

If you do get married here, why do you need to get married again in Peru? Isn't the US marriage binding in Peru?

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Hi all.

So a mutual friend introduced my girlfriend and me. We have mostly been doing the distance thing, but I did get to go down and spend 3 weeks in Peru with her. She just got a tourist visa (10 years) and is coming up for a week in April.

Our plan really is to get married in Peru in October-ish (after I get all the paperwork together). But, kind of on a lark, we have been talking about flying down to Las Vegas and getting a quickie marriage just for the two of us. We wanted to keep it secret and everything and we would still go forward with the marrying in Peru plan. The question I have is: would this Vegas marriage cause us problems when we initiate the visa process after marrying in Peru?

I bet I know the answer, but spring time is making me feel all irresponsible :)

Mark

She can come here and get married on the visitors visa, no problem there. However, since you are intending on doing this, she cannot legally stay and AOS.

But since you state she is going back to Peru, - no issues.

She can go home, and you can start the CR-1 process for her to come back!

If you do get married here, why do you need to get married again in Peru? Isn't the US marriage binding in Peru?

We mostly just wanted to keep it a secret that we got married in Vegas ("What happens in Vegas..."). Then we were going to the whole marriage thing there for her friends and family. Will this situation look funny on the visa paperwork? I assume the answer to the next question is "yes", but: Do I have to report the marriage in Las Vegas if we have the subsequent marriage in Lima? Would the two marriages raise any eyebrows? We should probably just contain ourselves and act more like adults, I'm sure :)

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We mostly just wanted to keep it a secret that we got married in Vegas ("What happens in Vegas..."). Then we were going to the whole marriage thing there for her friends and family. Will this situation look funny on the visa paperwork? I assume the answer to the next question is "yes", but: Do I have to report the marriage in Las Vegas if we have the subsequent marriage in Lima? Would the two marriages raise any eyebrows? We should probably just contain ourselves and act more like adults, I'm sure :)

I don't know about Peru, but my husband and I had two weddings. The first was in Russia, and the second in the States. We had no problems. In the States, no one knew we were already married (I mean family and friends did, but not the government). The only way they could have found out would be if I had gone to the appropriate government body and documented the Russian wedding, which I didn't. What this means is that theoretically you could have different wives in different countries, which I find kind of absurd. Before you make it official by providing documents, no one knows, so it shouldn't be a problem. In our case we decided that since we planned to eventually move to the U.S., it would be better to have the American wedding license rather than always having to provide the translated, apostilled Russian one.

June 2002 we met at a mutual friend's birthday party

August 2003 we started dating

August 2006 engaged

July 20, 2008 ZAGS wedding in Moscow

May 18, 2008 church wedding in NY

June 16, 2008 we returned to Moscow for one last year

December 1, 2008 filed the I-130 through DCF at the Embassy in Moscow!

January 13, 2009 called the consulate and found out that I-130 was approved on December 22!! But still waiting for the letter in the mail

January 20, 2009 received an e-mail from the consulate that the interview is scheduled for Feb. 20th at 8AM!

January 24, 2009 received packets 3 & 4 and confirmation letter in the mail!

February 12, 2009 medical passed!

February 20, 2009 interview scheduled, but had to reschedule due to a wounded finger

March 6, 2009 new interview date---passed!!!

March 12, 2009 visa received

August 9, 2009 he arrived! (through JFK) Received IR-1 and now we're done for another three years!

August 31, 2009 permanent green card arrived

July 16, 2012 sent in N-400 for U.S. citizenship

July 23, 2012 NOA

August 10, 2012 biometrics appt.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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You cannot have two legal weddings, that has caused problems for other couples on here, even if it is to the same person! You could do the Vegas wedding, which would save you some time applying for the visa as you could then apply right away, and make the Peru wedding a ceremonial/ religious one. Or you could make the Vegas wedding ceremonial only (not file any paperwork), and keep the Peru wedding the legal one.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Hi all.

So a mutual friend introduced my girlfriend and me. We have mostly been doing the distance thing, but I did get to go down and spend 3 weeks in Peru with her. She just got a tourist visa (10 years) and is coming up for a week in April.

Our plan really is to get married in Peru in October-ish (after I get all the paperwork together). But, kind of on a lark, we have been talking about flying down to Las Vegas and getting a quickie marriage just for the two of us. We wanted to keep it secret and everything and we would still go forward with the marrying in Peru plan. The question I have is: would this Vegas marriage cause us problems when we initiate the visa process after marrying in Peru?

I bet I know the answer, but spring time is making me feel all irresponsible :)

Mark

To get married in Peru you will have to submit a form that says you are single. That then would be fraud even though it would be with the same person. Maybe some one else knows a little more about this than me.

I would suspect that would make your peruvian marriage null and void.

Another thing is you can start the paper work now by doing the the K-1 visa and she will be here faster but if you get married you will have to start the process all over again becasue your status will have changed.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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or you can get married now and file for a CR-1 either way if you wait she can come here faster or if you get married here she can come here faster (but she has to go back home after your wedding here and wait that process ).

If you file a K-1 then get married in peru you will have to start all over again and lose money as the K-1 will no longer be vailid. So if you are looking for fast getting married twice or waiting to file after a peru wedding will just take for ever.

IF you want to get married in peru and get her here I say go to peru now and do it . Its alot cheaper to get married in peru for sure. Or get married here and do a religious wedding in peru.

Filed: Other Country: China
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Hi all.

So a mutual friend introduced my girlfriend and me. We have mostly been doing the distance thing, but I did get to go down and spend 3 weeks in Peru with her. She just got a tourist visa (10 years) and is coming up for a week in April.

Our plan really is to get married in Peru in October-ish (after I get all the paperwork together). But, kind of on a lark, we have been talking about flying down to Las Vegas and getting a quickie marriage just for the two of us. We wanted to keep it secret and everything and we would still go forward with the marrying in Peru plan. The question I have is: would this Vegas marriage cause us problems when we initiate the visa process after marrying in Peru?

I bet I know the answer, but spring time is making me feel all irresponsible :)

Mark

She can come here and get married on the visitors visa, no problem there. However, since you are intending on doing this, she cannot legally stay and AOS.

But since you state she is going back to Peru, - no issues.

She can go home, and you can start the CR-1 process for her to come back!

If you do get married here, why do you need to get married again in Peru? Isn't the US marriage binding in Peru?

We mostly just wanted to keep it a secret that we got married in Vegas ("What happens in Vegas..."). Then we were going to the whole marriage thing there for her friends and family. Will this situation look funny on the visa paperwork? I assume the answer to the next question is "yes", but: Do I have to report the marriage in Las Vegas if we have the subsequent marriage in Lima? Would the two marriages raise any eyebrows? We should probably just contain ourselves and act more like adults, I'm sure :)

Married is married. Once "married" in Vegas, you are no longer "free to marry" anywhere else. You can do a ceremony in Peru without the legal paperwork if the officiant will allow it.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Give a judge 50-75$ to perform (aka) act a marriage and not do the proper paper work. That is most likely more than they will make in a week . They will do it. There is nothing illegal about it but it would be a little deceptive to friends and familiy if they ever found out

Filed: FB-4 Visa Country: Peru
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Marry in the USA and just renew your vows in a ceremony in Peru. Or vice versa. Personally I wouldn't want to chance having problems in the immigration process we all know its long enough already. I was legally married in Peru and we had a great ceremony with his family. We plan on renewing our vows in the USA once my husband gets here for my family.

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2011-02-28 : Mailed I-751

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Marry in the USA and just renew your vows in a ceremony in Peru. Or vice versa. Personally I wouldn't want to chance having problems in the immigration process we all know its long enough already. I was legally married in Peru and we had a great ceremony with his family. We plan on renewing our vows in the USA once my husband gets here for my family.

Has anybody heard of Immigration causing any kind of issue because a marriage in Las Vegas? In other words, has that caused the consular officer in question to raise his/her eyebrows?

Mark

Filed: Other Country: China
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Marry in the USA and just renew your vows in a ceremony in Peru. Or vice versa. Personally I wouldn't want to chance having problems in the immigration process we all know its long enough already. I was legally married in Peru and we had a great ceremony with his family. We plan on renewing our vows in the USA once my husband gets here for my family.

Has anybody heard of Immigration causing any kind of issue because a marriage in Las Vegas? In other words, has that caused the consular officer in question to raise his/her eyebrows?

Mark

Not at all. Go for it. You only "marry" once though. Don't be trying to get married again later. Married is married.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Peru
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Marry in the USA and just renew your vows in a ceremony in Peru. Or vice versa. Personally I wouldn't want to chance having problems in the immigration process we all know its long enough already. I was legally married in Peru and we had a great ceremony with his family. We plan on renewing our vows in the USA once my husband gets here for my family.

Has anybody heard of Immigration causing any kind of issue because a marriage in Las Vegas? In other words, has that caused the consular officer in question to raise his/her eyebrows?

Mark

Not at all. Go for it. You only "marry" once though. Don't be trying to get married again later. Married is married.

Thanks. I promise not to get married a second time :)

 
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