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How much Out of Status time does one have to accrue in order to earn the lowest ban (which I'm guessing is 3 years)?

December 22nd, 2008: Legally wed!

March 16th, 2009: AOS package posted via FedEx

March 18th, 2009: AOS package delivered, signed for by J. Chyba

March 24th, 2009: NOA1

March 25th, 2009: Check cashed

March 27th, 2009: NOA1 in hand

April 3rd, 2009: Case transferred to CSC (YES!)

April 9th, 2009: Biometrics

May 6th, 2009: EAD and AP approval notices sent

May 12th, 2009: AOS Touch

May 13th, 2009: AOS Touch, EAD received

June 18th, 2009: CRIS approval email, card production ordered - yes!

June 18th, 2009: Welcome notice mailed

June 22nd, 2009: Welcome notice received

July 2, 2009: Green card received!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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How much Out of Status time does one have to accrue in order to earn the lowest ban (which I'm guessing is 3 years)?

180 days

YMMV

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I don't think there is a written rule as to when you have to file AOS, but sooner the better would be my answer.

:thumbs: Doing the AOS gives the beneficiary more benefits. Without AOS there isn't much they can do.

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Agreed....but all I am saying is people have waited a year or even more to apply for AOS and they didn't have any problems

I don't think there is a written rule as to when you have to file AOS, but sooner the better would be my answer.

:thumbs: Doing the AOS gives the beneficiary more benefits. Without AOS there isn't much they can do.

AOS/ROC/Citizenship Timeline

DO - Baltimore

2010/2011

Day 0 - Nov. 29: I-751(ROC) Package Sent

Day 1 - Nov. 30: I-751(ROC) Package Delivered @ VSC

Day 4 - Dec. 03: I-751(ROC) Check Cashed

Day 34 - Jan. 13-2011: I-751(ROC) Biometrics Appointment Letter for 1/31/11

Day 46 - Jan. 31-2011: I-751(ROC) Biometrics Completed

Day 138 - Jun. 09-2011: I-751(ROC) Approval Letter Received

2011

Day 0 - Oct. 26 '11: N400 Package Sent

Day 1 - Oct. 27 '11: N400 Package Delivered @ Lewisville, TX

Day 5 - Oct. 31 '11: N400 NOA-1

Day 34 - Nov. 28 '11: Email: Placed in line for interview

Day 57 - Dec. 22 '11: Received yellow letter

Day 144 - Mar. 17 '12: Received fingerprinting letter

Day 147 - Mar. 20 '12: Biometrics completed

Day 156 - Mar. 29 '12: Email: Interview scheduled, letter in mail

Day 190 - May. 02 '12: Interview Completed, Passed, Oath same day

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What about that woman picked up 2 states away from home and sent to jail? That is a problem.

True, the govt will still accept your $$, documents and interview for AOS at any time. But -- why risk anything.

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Agreed....but all I am saying is people have waited a year or even more to apply for AOS and they didn't have any problems

I have seen several postings where they waited a year to file and didn't have any problems so we are saying the same thing

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This is exactly correct....no written time limit as to when you have to file for AOS

you are out of status once the i-94 expires but there is not a time limit for when you file aos only that you must be married within the 90 day time frame. we waited a year and were approved for the conditional green card last week. some people wait for 2 years so that they can just receive the 10 year straight away.

good luck to you.

There is a time limit for filing AOS if you don't want to accrue out of status time.

partially incorrect...of course it is best to file as soon as possible but there can be extenuating circumstances. again we filed exactly 1 year after the marriage and were not even questioned regarding the late filing. approved without incident.

ROC Timeline

18 NOV 2010 Sent 1.8lb packet to USCIS in Laguna Niguel (day 1)

19 NOV 2010 Package signed for V SEMEGI (day 2)

24 NOV 2010 Package returned because USC didn't sign petition (day 6)

calendar reset

26 NOV 2010 Package sent out again (day 1)

29 NOV 2010 Package signed for by V SEMEGI (day 3)

29 NOV 2010 NOA1 issued (day 3)

03 DEC 2010 Hardcopy of NOA received (day 7)

07 JAN 2011 Successful walk in biometrics (day 42) original date 1 FEB

01 MAR 2011 Date on Approval notice (although it arrived after the card did) (day 94)

03 MAR 2011 Card received (day 96)

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This is exactly correct....no written time limit as to when you have to file for AOS

you are out of status once the i-94 expires but there is not a time limit for when you file aos only that you must be married within the 90 day time frame. we waited a year and were approved for the conditional green card last week. some people wait for 2 years so that they can just receive the 10 year straight away.

good luck to you.

There is a time limit for filing AOS if you don't want to accrue out of status time.

partially incorrect...of course it is best to file as soon as possible but there can be extenuating circumstances. again we filed exactly 1 year after the marriage and were not even questioned regarding the late filing. approved without incident.

Where is the partially incorrect?

YMMV

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people, why do we have to make this so complicated when common sense applies to this. we are dealing with LAWS here that we have to follow. when one entered as K1 he/she will have a stamp on the i-94 the date up to when her/his status is VALID. agree?

when you exceed that K1 validity period again, "BY RULE/LAW" what then is your status???

example.. my i-94 was stamped, dec 26. i filed aos jan 30... so from dec 27 until the time uscis received my aos papers and sent the NOA1 my status would be.."pending AOS applicant", meaning you legally filed and waiting for the processing of your aos. actually i've read somewhere here the right legal term for that..it has the word "attorney" in it..anyways,

like what the previous post says, what if you got caught by a cop and you have to show your status or I.D...although as a K1 there is no time limit when you have to file for the aos, when you havent filed your aos yet and your i-94 is already expired, do you think your words of explanation will be approved by the policeman that easy??... most likely he'll look for some proofs...documents..i.d's...etc..etc.. and the only thing you can use is your visa with a "expired" i-94- he'll definitely not accept it.

so the thing is though theres no deadline for aos filing, its ADVISABLE to file it a.s.a.p.

hope i made it clear

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K-1

Jan 2008 - application was sent back to us due to mis sent to Chicago instead of California

Jan - sent application

Jun 27 - NOA2 by the mailbox!!! (found out that d 2nd touch was d approval..sweet!)

Jul 3 - NVC sent letter to petitioner

Jul 15 - confirmation letter received (tnk u my dear DHL)

Jul 17- 1st day - medical exam SLEC (on hold and waiting for it to be done successfully) July 31- PASSED!

Aug 28 - USEM interview date! (eto' na!) - PASSED - PINK SLIP ONLY!

Sept 26 - PAL departure - MNL-LAX

NOV 23 - Church wedding

AOS

Jan 30 2009 - AOS with EAD and AP submitted to Chi, IL

Feb 4 - check cleared

Feb 10 - AOS, EAD, AP NOA1 received!

Feb 19 - Biometric appointment letter received

Feb 28 - Biometrics schedule

Mar 28 - AP and interview invitation received by mail

Apr 2 - EAD card recieved

May 15 - Interview Schedule - APPROVED!

Jun 25 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED ON MAIL Dated June 16

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There is no time limit. You can wait 20 years if you want. But until you file to adjust staus, you will have no life. No driving, no working, and if you leave the country, you wont be getting back in. If you get arrested, you are subject to removal as you have no status here. They will never coming looking for you, but you are accumulating illegal presence if you leave the US or get divorced.

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How much Out of Status time does one have to accrue in order to earn the lowest ban (which I'm guessing is 3 years)?

180 days

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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I believe that I remember seeing -- elsewhere on VJ -- that one's status is that of "Adjustment Applicant." Someone here could make a quick call to a reliable immigration attorney for the proper legal term.

I insist on my wife's taking these documents with her, every time she leaves the house: home-country passport & driver's license, International Driving Permit, marriage certificate, and NOA1 for AOS application. There is so much anti-immigrant sentiment in Texas, and people are so frustrated about the seeming inability to do anything about Illegals, that lawful-but-not-yet-legal immigrants are being targeted. I would be even more fearful for my wife if we were in the "De-Constitutionalized Zone" in south Texas, where the rule of law applies only weakly at best. For these reasons, we married WELL within the 90 days and applied for AOS/EAD/AP comfortably before her I-94 expired.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I believe that I remember seeing -- elsewhere on VJ -- that one's status is that of "Adjustment Applicant." Someone here could make a quick call to a reliable immigration attorney for the proper legal term.

I insist on my wife's taking these documents with her, every time she leaves the house: home-country passport & driver's license, International Driving Permit, marriage certificate, and NOA1 for AOS application. There is so much anti-immigrant sentiment in Texas, and people are so frustrated about the seeming inability to do anything about Illegals, that lawful-but-not-yet-legal immigrants are being targeted. I would be even more fearful for my wife if we were in the "De-Constitutionalized Zone" in south Texas, where the rule of law applies only weakly at best. For these reasons, we married WELL within the 90 days and applied for AOS/EAD/AP comfortably before her I-94 expired.

good for you! so did my husband and I! for those who filed years after they married, you were simply lucky that you did not get into any surprise inconvenience like for some reason being checked by cops, employers etc, AND you got approved. if you didn't get approved, I imagine that waiting a long time to file would've made an appeal very difficult.

anyway, i hope the following info, which are ALL HERE in VJ will help lessen the confusion:

http://www.visajourney.com/faq/k1k2visa-aos.html

when do you file...

6.1)...How soon after we get married should we apply for Adjustment of Status?

A..Right away, or at least right after your honeymoon. You should make every effort to get the Adjustment application filed within 90 days of the fiance(e) entering the United States, which is when the K-1 status expires, as indicated on the I-94.

if you don't get married before the 90-day visa validity...

6.13)...What happens if we do not get married within the 90 day validity of the K1 visa?

A..In this case, you can no longer file for Adjustment of Status based on being a K1.You will have to submit an I-130 relative petition along with the I-485 and all the other paperwork to the local USCIS (INS) office. You may have to have another medical exam, and you will need to be prepared to answer questions about why you did not get married within 90 days. In effect, you will have become an out-of-status alien who is adjusting status based on marriage to a US Citizen.

what your status is while waiting...

6.11.7)..OK, so my K-1 wife will file I485 for AOS.....Question is, what will her immigration status be from the date she files the AOS paperwork until the interview where she receives (conditional)green card?

A..She is official under a "period of stay authorized by the Attorney General". (FAQ Note: This is due to being an Adjustment Applicant who is awaiting a decision regarding an adjustment of status application)

the only thing i noticed that is absolutely true is...if you wait a long time before applying for AOS, it will usually be more costly because the fees are increased every now and then and new/additional medical exams will have to be done because the ones used for getting your k1-visa is good only for a year.

filing early allows you also to fix any problems that may arise...

good luck to new AOS filers!

I-129F, AOS, ROC

02-11-2008 Sent out I -129F in mail

02-13-2008 NOA 1

03-14-2008 NOA 2

04-07-2008 Medical exam passed

04-25-2008 Interview, visa aproved, no RFEs!

04-25-2008 Waiting for DELBROS/NSO

05-07-2008 Visa on hand ! Wow, less than 3 months! Thank you Lord!

05-26-2008 POE Detroit, no problems, thank God!

07-01-2008 Married 07-01-08, civil, just us w/ his parents

07-16-2008 Mailed out AOS package

07-19-2008 wedding ceremony

08-19-2008 biometrics appointment

08-25-2008 i-485 touched

09-23-2008 i-485 touched

09-30-2008 i-131 approval notice THANK YOU LORD!!!!

10-04-2008 Received my EAD

10-06-2008 Received my AP...yehey, i can go back to Phil for xmas!

11-14-2008 DMV driving test-passed! thank you Lord!

11-18-2008 Received RI driver's license

11-30-2008 Went home to PHILs for the holidays

12-21-2008 Church wedding!

01-08-2009 AOS Approved! thank you Lord! no interview required!

01-16-2009 Received GC in mail

09-02-2010 Sent out application for ROC

09-08-2010 Received NOA1

09-10-2010 Received Biometrics Notice

10-06-2010 Biometrics

12-06-2010 Approved! Thank you Lord God!

12-11-2010 Received NOA2 and 10-yr GC in the mail =)

N-400

10-03-2011 Sent N-400

10-07-2011 NOA1 date

10-25-2011 Biometrics

12-02-2011 Civics Test/Interview (passed)

04-09-2012 Oathtaking (got my little USA flag and souvenir photo!)

Matthew at 1yr

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I just want to add that more and more states are creating or modifying local laws to check the status of immigrants. For example, in NJ two years ago, four students were killed by gang members who were all visa overstays. More over, one of the alleged murderers was pulled over by a cop for a traffic violation, but his status was never checked.

Due to political pressure from NJ residents regarding this incident, NJ passed a law saying if a police officer stops you or someone you are with for any reason, they have the right to ask for proof of your legal right to be in the US. That includes passengers in a car or someone who is standing on a corner with you after hours, etc.

If you do not apply for AOS before your I-94 expires, you are technically out of status. As others have said, no one is going to come looking for you, and yes immigration will forgive the overstay. HOWEVER, you should note that it's not just border states like Texas that are cracking down, and that you don't have to necessarily do anything wrong (at least in NJ) to have your status checked by local law enforcement. With the new laws in this state, if you and your immigrant spouse are driving and you run a red light and are pulled over, the cop can ask for proof of her right to be in the country. If s/he does not have such documentation, s/he can be detained and immigration police will be called by law. (What ICE officials do with that call, of course, depends on how busy they are...)

I used to work in a courthouse where a lot of our litigants were immigrants; I've seen plenty of overstay immigrants detained in court until ICE came to collect them because during the application for child support or a restraining order or other court procedure, it came out that the immigrant did not have legal status in the US.

Point is: yes, you can probably get away with it -- but do you really want to risk it? My husband and I didn't.

Timeline of David's Petition to Remove Conditions:

08-01-2009 I-751 Mailed to VSC

09-01-2009 I-751 received at VSC

12-01-2009 Notice of Action/Receipt received

22-01-2009 Biometrics Appointment Notice received

06-02-2009 Biometrics Appointment in Newark, NJ

05-06-2009 Received notice that removal of conditions has been approved!

David's K1 Timeline Available here

David's AOS Timeline Available here

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