High school students killed as gangs brawled over stolen iPod (illegal immigrant?)

[alienlovechild 75]

Bravo Mox. I couldn`t have said it better. "hope and pray" that more people lose their homes and jobs and savings".

The outrage of the killings, which obviously all are Hispanics "illegals, cough,cough" is the same horse manure only

the likes of the Lou Dobbs enablers here at V/J so famously are known for.

Instead of railing against the real criminals, those who they "hope and pray" that have caused the loss of homes and

jobs and savings (Bush/Cheney) Junta, they practice their best Lou Dobbs theme of "stealing our jobs, our women and

our schools"....Such pathetic thread I might add.

I'll pass on destroying the economy to reduce illegal immigration, sounds akin to bloodletting to cure a disease.

Ignoring crimes by illegals by blaming Bush for other issues is a sign of a disjointed mind. Illegal immigration wasn't a major issue during the election so demonizing Dobbs for pointing out a problem which affects some communities is silly.

Here's a fact from by neighboring county in today's news. Oh yeah, old Lou Dobbs actually committed those crimes by himself.

"Jail officials estimate that about 60 percent of the foreign nationals booked into the center last year were in the U.S. illegally."

http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=216737

[DeadPoolX 9]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

Edited January 12, 2009 by DeadPoolX

[nighthawk 0]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

You too are correct Mr. DeadPoolX. There are countless crimes perpetrated by American citizens and where is the

rage???Those who insist it is all about illegals in this country are those who`s racists Maduzza`s snakes heads

capriciously continue to hissssssssss.

[Danno 1,228]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

It's kinda like....

you invite people to a party; "one" gets drunk and of course something get busted.

In addition to this problem you have a group there who no one invited, eating up your food and drinking your beer and a "few" of them get drunk and break up a lot more stuff.

First thing you are gonna say is "WHo invited these people"?

Second thing is, "Get them the F_ck out of here".

Edited January 12, 2009 by Danno

[Niels Bohr 72]

Quite frankly, we always assume so much.

I'm not defending illegals. But, I there are illegals who are good and who bad. In terms of invasion of the mother land or whatever, it's taken out of proportion as to accuse them of criminals endeavors as well. Realistically, we have to draw the line from individuals to a member of a group.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

It's kinda like....

you invite people to a party; "one" gets drunk and of course something get busted.

In addition to this problem you have a group there who no one invited, eating up your food and drinking your beer and a "few" of them get drunk and break up a lot more stuff.

First thing you are gonna say is "WHo invited these people"?

Second thing is, "Get them the F_ck out of here".

But it's not entirely the fault of those attending the party. While I don't approve of uninvited guests, the fault primarily falls on the individuals throwing the party and employing the necessary security to allow in only those invited. Otherwise the attendees -- whether they were invited or not -- could make a real mess of the place.

[alienlovechild 75]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

You too are correct Mr. DeadPoolX. There are countless crimes perpetrated by American citizens and where is the

rage???Those who insist it is all about illegals in this country are those who`s racists Maduzza`s snakes heads

capriciously continue to hissssssssss.

Illegal immigrants are already criminals when they crossed the border or overstyaed their visas. Nobody is saying American criminals are more desirable but it you weren't in the U.S., a crime wouldn't have been committed.

I'll be sure and commit various crime abroad on my next trip abraod and see if the police ignore me.

There's nothing capricious about whether you're an illegal immigrant or not.

I think you're referring to Medusa not Maduzza.

[MariaBonita 11]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

It's kinda like....

you invite people to a party; "one" gets drunk and of course something get busted.

In addition to this problem you have a group there who no one invited, eating up your food and drinking your beer and a "few" of them get drunk and break up a lot more stuff.

First thing you are gonna say is "WHo invited these people"?

Second thing is, "Get them the F_ck out of here".

But you see - there are other people at that party who actually invited those "uninvited" guests. They did it by telling them that it's ok, that they can stay if they clean the bathrooms, floors, and clean up after the messy "invited" guests; but they'll have to do it for very little money, for hours and without breaks......

As you see, things arn't that simple.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

You too are correct Mr. DeadPoolX. There are countless crimes perpetrated by American citizens and where is the

rage???Those who insist it is all about illegals in this country are those who`s racists Maduzza`s snakes heads

capriciously continue to hissssssssss.

Illegal immigrants are already criminals when they crossed the border or overstyaed their visas. Nobody is saying American criminals are more desirable but it you weren't in the U.S., a crime wouldn't have been committed.

I'll be sure and commit various crime abroad on my next trip abraod and see if the police ignore me.

There's nothing capricious about whether you're an illegal immigrant or not.

I think you're referring to Medusa not Maduzza.

I agree that illegal immigrants are criminals once they've entered the U.S. illegally or overstayed their visa. There's a huge difference in severity between illegal entrance and visa overstay versus murder.

It might be somewhat fair to say that "if the illegal hadn't been in the U.S., the crime wouldn't have been committed." However, if we wish to be fair, we need to say that "if the perpetrator of the crime (regardless of legal status) hadn't been at whatever location, the crime itself wouldn't have been committed."

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Being in the country illegally is an "unlawful act", it isn't a criminal act - it only becomes a criminal matter if you evade deportation or return afterwards.

[Peikko 1,575]

A.J stirring the perennial pots. Are there no new topics of controversy? Gays, Climate change and illegal aliens are so 2008!

[Danno 1,228]

Whether this crime was committed by illegals or not, the fact remains it happened. As much as I am fiercely against illegal immigration, I fail to see how this incident is any worse than the crimes perpetrated by American citizens. We've had quite a few criminal acts involving teenagers in the past few years that had nothing to do with illegals.

It's kinda like....

you invite people to a party; "one" gets drunk and of course something get busted.

In addition to this problem you have a group there who no one invited, eating up your food and drinking your beer and a "few" of them get drunk and break up a lot more stuff.

First thing you are gonna say is "WHo invited these people"?

Second thing is, "Get them the F_ck out of here".

But it's not entirely the fault of those attending the party. While I don't approve of uninvited guests, the fault primarily falls on the individuals throwing the party and employing the necessary security to allow in only those invited. Otherwise the attendees -- whether they were invited or not -- could make a real mess of the place.

Agreed, if one has reason to believe free-loaders might attempt entrance, some provisions for this must be made.

All in all I don't blame the Free-loaders (too harsh a term I admit) as I have free-loaded on many such occasions myself (when possible) but; once bagged, I never believed for one second that because I evaded notice for some time that that, prevented me from being kicked out.

[aidan80 9]

Get a rope, I'll bring the pitchforks.

Can we put anybody down for the torches?

check!

Run.. it's the right wingers coming to burn us out!

[Ban Hammer 14,572]

Get a rope, I'll bring the pitchforks.

Can we put anybody down for the torches?

check!

Run.. it's the right wingers coming to burn us out!

nah, these guys are out late at night, everyone knows right wingers are early to bed and early to rise, gotta work to help pay for welfare

[Danno 1,228]

Get a rope, I'll bring the pitchforks.

Can we put anybody down for the torches?

check!

Run.. it's the right wingers coming to burn us out!

nah, these guys are out late at night, everyone knows right wingers are early to bed and early to rise, gotta work to help pay for welfare