Julie Myers, ICE big boss, resigns

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

[pedroh 21]

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

not the act itself of deporting illegals.. but the methods they use..

[Niels Bohr 72]

VW, she doesn't know the word what the word brutality is

[NickD 202]

Any examples? Heard this from my step daughter, a 21 year old male was drinking, around 2:00 AM was driving home, but pulled over to the side of the road and fell asleep, local cops investigated, no driver's license and learned he was here illegally, don't know how they found that out, all second hand information. Was held in our city jail, only two cells overnight and transferred to the county jail. Was there for about three weeks until a couple of agents showed up, don't know who, and they escorted him to the Mexican border, don't know what city and dropped him off on the other side. Only the clothes on his back, no money, he was on his own. Was driving a late model Explorer, that was confiscated, don't know about any other possessions he lost or how long he was here illegally. This guy worked at the same place my step-daughter was working part time at so she did know him. But does this sound brutal? Understand he was a nice kid, but I never met him.

Heard stories, no names, about some kind of organization called coyote, where an illegal needs to find a sponsor here, and pay them some odd $3,500.00 to transport them across the border, but the illegal has to pay that back to his sponsor. Put them in the trunk of a car or something and dump them in the desert in Arizona where they have to walk some great distance and almost die in the process. Have no idea how they make it up to Wisconsin. They are desperate with no means to support their families in Mexico, and take that risk, to work here and send that money back, don't know how they do that either, but half their pay has to pay off coyote first. To me that really sounds brutal.

Also heard stories about fathers with families here that are deported that have USC kids born here, they leave the mother here to raise the kids, with no means to support them, that sounds extremely brutal. Nothing in the newspapers about this, just all stories, whether they are true or not, do not know. But these people are just trying to survive, really haven't heard about crimes they are committing like down in Phoenix killing cops or whatever. But they are here illegally, what can you say about that?

Scared the hell out of me when the USCIS was playing around with my wife's ten year green card, no notice, did they lose our application, set the processing date way back, then started raising holy hell with my senator and congressman. Was all prepared to make an infopass appointment, when the card finally arrived. Now that kind of treatment from the USCIS is brutal.

[MariaBonita 11]

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

I get the feeling that any cruel and/or unacceptable immigration enforcement against illegal immigrants is acceptable to some.

Funny how feelings work, eh?

Edited November 9, 2008 by MariaBonita

[natty bumppo 289]

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

I get the feeling that any cruel and/or unacceptable immigration enforcement against illegal immigrants is acceptable to some.

Funny how feelings work, eh?

must be time to get out butterfly nets, pixie dust, and practice the "mother may I's" to capture the illegals ... oh wait that will be unfair too ...

[Niels Bohr 72]

Edited November 9, 2008 by Niels Bohr

[panamania79 2]

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

No,just when they get abused physically.

I get the feeling that any immigration enforcement against illegals is brutality to some.

I get the feeling that any cruel and/or unacceptable immigration enforcement against illegal immigrants is acceptable to some.

Funny how feelings work, eh?

must be time to get out butterfly nets, pixie dust, and practice the "mother may I's" to capture the illegals ... oh wait that will be unfair too ...

What ? Are they raiding the local kindergarden ?

Any examples? Heard this from my step daughter, a 21 year old male was drinking, around 2:00 AM was driving home, but pulled over to the side of the road and fell asleep, local cops investigated, no driver's license and learned he was here illegally, don't know how they found that out, all second hand information. Was held in our city jail, only two cells overnight and transferred to the county jail. Was there for about three weeks until a couple of agents showed up, don't know who, and they escorted him to the Mexican border, don't know what city and dropped him off on the other side. Only the clothes on his back, no money, he was on his own. Was driving a late model Explorer, that was confiscated, don't know about any other possessions he lost or how long he was here illegally. This guy worked at the same place my step-daughter was working part time at so she did know him. But does this sound brutal? Understand he was a nice kid, but I never met him.

Heard stories, no names, about some kind of organization called coyote, where an illegal needs to find a sponsor here, and pay them some odd $3,500.00 to transport them across the border, but the illegal has to pay that back to his sponsor. Put them in the trunk of a car or something and dump them in the desert in Arizona where they have to walk some great distance and almost die in the process. Have no idea how they make it up to Wisconsin. They are desperate with no means to support their families in Mexico, and take that risk, to work here and send that money back, don't know how they do that either, but half their pay has to pay off coyote first. To me that really sounds brutal.

Also heard stories about fathers with families here that are deported that have USC kids born here, they leave the mother here to raise the kids, with no means to support them, that sounds extremely brutal. Nothing in the newspapers about this, just all stories, whether they are true or not, do not know. But these people are just trying to survive, really haven't heard about crimes they are committing like down in Phoenix killing cops or whatever. But they are here illegally, what can you say about that?

Scared the hell out of me when the USCIS was playing around with my wife's ten year green card, no notice, did they lose our application, set the processing date way back, then started raising holy hell with my senator and congressman. Was all prepared to make an infopass appointment, when the card finally arrived. Now that kind of treatment from the USCIS is brutal.

It sure is,it seems as if they love palying games with people.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Funny how those who were Palin-crazy are the same that don't care or don't even believe that ICE mistreats and abuses it's authority by not respecting the detainees' human rights,

BUNCH of LOSERS Ha! Have i mentioned that Obama won? whether you like it or not...amnesty is coming, deal with it.

And for you nationalists, I support amnesty for all those without a criminal record, if they are real criminals (and not just jumping the fence, but a real crime), take their a$$ back to where they came from

Edited November 10, 2008 by GueraYTavo

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... whether you like it or not...amnesty is coming...

What is coming will be acceptable to organized labor. It will not be amnesty.

[MariaBonita 11]

Funny how those who were Palin-crazy are the same that don't care or don't even believe that ICE mistreats and abuses it's authority by not respecting the detainees' human rights,

Probably both. They don't believe it, and don’t care to find out if it's true or not. Problems is, it's not only the undocumented who are being affected by these ICE raids, but legal immigrants and US citizens, too.

Here's one case:

Georgia Teen, a Plaintiff in SPLC Suit, Tells House Subcommittee About Terrifying Immigration Raid

It was supposed to be the start of another school day for 15-year-old Marie Justeen Mancha as she sat in her bedroom, waiting for her mother to return from an errand in town.

But on this morning in September 2006, Mancha, a U.S. citizen, found herself in a situation she never expected to encounter in her own home.

"I started to hear the words, 'Police! Illegals!'" she said. "It seems as if those words still ring in my head today giving me that fear of them busting into my home. I walked around the corner from the hallway and saw a tall man reach toward his gun and look straight at me."

She was caught in the middle of a botched immigration raid in southeast Georgia. Federal agents barged into homes without showing warrants and targeted U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, like Mancha, solely because of their skin color.

Mancha, now 17, recounted the experience today before the House Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security and International Law. Her congressional testimony was part of a hearing about problems with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) procedures.

Mancha, her mother and three other U.S. citizens of Mexican descent are plaintiffs in a federal lawsuit filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center against ICE in 2006.

The lawsuit charges that ICE agents illegally detained, searched and harassed Latinos solely because of their appearance — a violation of their Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights — during an extensive campaign to drive them out of the area. A sixth plaintiff is a landlord who suffered damage to his rental properties when agents broke into trailers rented by Latinos.

Mancha told subcommittee members about the fear she felt that morning.

"I saw a group of law enforcement agents standing in the living room blocking the front door," she said. "My heart just dropped. I didn't know what was about to happen. … When the tall man reached for his gun I just stood there, feeling so scared."

Mancha, who speaks with a gentle Southern accent, said the agents asked if her mother was in the U.S. legally. Her mother was born in Florida.

"I started to feel closed in, like I couldn't say no or not answer them because they were blocking the front door," she said of the agents, who never showed a search warrant.

"At times, I didn't want to be Mexican because of what we go through and how people look at us different and treat us and assume we're all illegal," she told the subcommittee.

The raids began on Sept. 1, 2006, and lasted for several weeks. They were intended to locate unauthorized immigrants who worked at a poultry plant in Stillmore, a town of about 1,000 people in Emanuel County. But rather than conduct a raid only at the plant, dozens of agents fanned out across residential areas in three counties — stopping motorists, breaking into homes and threatening people with tear gas and guns. Hundreds were terrorized. Many fled into the woods.

For Mancha, the agents left her home after she answered their questions, telling them that she and her mother are U.S. citizens. Her mother arrived as the agents left.

"I ran to her and started crying — telling her what just happened," Mancha said. "I was so scared. I still am. I carry that fear with me every day — wondering when they'll come back."

http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=298

[Ban Hammer 12,864]

a good example of bad intel.

[Niels Bohr 72]

I hope they do something soon.

[panamania79 2]

VW, she doesn't know the word what the word brutality is

You could have fooled me .