So finally CSC is jinxed

[cmnb 0]

Yes, exactly... Fair is processing the cases in the order they are received, no matter where you live, or what type of petition you file.

SKluvSH, "at my cost"... are you insance... At YOUR costs... thousands are waiting while an imaginary line lets some petitioners have an advantage over others just as deserving.

I will go as radical as to say that i think it's bullshit that they have singers, athletes, artists.. all these people that ARENT family come first and all have priority dates in this quarter of 2008. I think NOT 1 of those petitions should even be LOOKED at until the backlog is reduced.

I also think that NATURAL BORN citizens should fall into an entirely separate category and should be processed even faster than others.

For last 3 days of this week 0 approval from CSC and 3 approvals from VSC. This basically is interpretting that there has been a big slowdown at CSC since we were seeing approval around over 20 average per week and now its been zero for last 3 days and the weekend wont be counted as i dont think they work during those days. I hope I am not correct but they are seem to prioritizing the VSC transferred cases which in a way is unfair. I sympathize for those folks but not at my cost.

Weekly totals for the last year:

Week Of # of NOA2s from CSC # of NOA2s per day from CSC # of NOA2s from VSC # of NOA2s per day from VSC Weighted* # of NOA2s per day from CSC

1 2008-08-18 0 0.00 3 1.00 0.00

2 2008-08-11 11 1.57 18 2.57 0.91

3 2008-08-04 31 4.43 18 2.57 2.58

4 2008-07-28 14 2.00 17 2.43 1.16

5 2008-07-21 34 4.86 24 3.43 2.83

6 2008-07-14 43 6.14 18 2.57 3.57

7 2008-07-07 18 2.57 8 1.14 1.50

8 2008-06-30 20 2.86 5 0.71 1.66

9 2008-06-23 12 1.71 13 1.86 1.00

10 2008-06-16 9 1.29 8 1.14 0.75

11 2008-06-09 16 2.29 6 0.86 1.33

12 2008-06-02 21 3.00 10 1.43 1.75

13 2008-05-26 28 4.00 10 1.43 2.33

14 2008-05-19 5 0.71 7 1.00 0.41

This stat can be found at: http://cse.ssl.berkeley.edu/igor/vjdata/default.aspx

How is that possibly unfair? Should you get your approval in a month based on where you live? I filed my I-130 in February of this year, and still have not seen my NOA2. The transferred case are people that have been waiting since the end of 2007. Personally I hope they work their cases before mine. Fair is processing the cases in the order they are received, no matter where you live, or what type of petition you file.

I am gonna out on a limb here and assume that the commentator is a natural born citizen of DR descent. However, that says very little about I am about to say, it's a privilege to be an American. however you must show your class of belonging to a 'first-world' by taking on some good manners for a change. naturalized or not, we all are in the same boat and eventually face the issues and challenges and paying very same taxes that a citizen or green card holder pays. so, please leave the nonsense out of these forums and show some class for change.

I am the commentator you're referring to.. i admit it... some of my ideas are radical... i said it before i even posted... Anyway, I am a natural born citizen and have 0% Dominican (DR ) decent...FYI. As a matter of fact my mother is also NATURAL BORN (Key West) her parents are US Citizens but naturalized after coming from Cuba in the 50's. My father came from Cuba 40 years ago at the age 4 (also naturalized), and his parents were cuban as well and they came in the late 50's also.

There is no "descent" connection between me and my wife, as a matter of fact i have no family in DR.

CMNB's comment i bet a natuarlized citizen can answer questions about american history and civics that more than half of NATURAL BORN citizens wudnt have a clue about unless they choose to GOOGLE it.. while very TRUE... i love the comment, doesnt apply to me... in fact if it was up to me... none of the ####### you have to learn should be part of citizenship anyway. Because it doesnt make anyone more qualified to vote, think, lookup to, or act American. It is simly 5th grade American History's final exam.

I consider myself very educated, i loved civics, i vote on every chance i get, i was on a debate team, and my degree that i'm still pursuing (Economist) can be said to fairly keep me up to speed on "American" things.

CMNB, i'm not LUCKY to have been born here, it was something that was planned and orchestrated and carried out by my still living grandparents decision to get the hell out of a country that wouldn't guarantee OUR 1st Amendment rights. (Castro) So there's no luck in it. My grandparents came here with nothing... their degrees were ignored or not counted, their work experience unverifiable, their English sub-par and somehow they made it possible for my parents and now their kids (ME) to live the American Dream... only there are hundreds of thousands if not millions waiting in front of me, who with combined with my mother have over 70 years of natural citizenship...

Can you sit there and tell me that someone who was naturalized 5 years ago, 10 years ago or 8 months ago deserves to go ahead of me?

very truly, I think "Can you sit there and tell me that someone who was naturalized 5 years ago, 10 years ago or 8 months ago deserves to go ahead of me?" is a baseless question...it just doesnt make any sense...

i am going to b honest and not keep arguing with you...i dont have an answer to ur question..

[Y's_habibitk 2]

I will go as radical as to say that i think it's bullshit that they have singers, athletes, artists.. all these people that ARENT family come first and all have priority dates in this quarter of 2008. I think NOT 1 of those petitions should even be LOOKED at until the backlog is reduced.

I also think that NATURAL BORN citizens should fall into an entirely separate category and should be processed even faster than others.

uh huh...

[Ling Ling 22]

Can you sit there and tell me that someone who was naturalized 5 years ago, 10 years ago or 8 months ago deserves to go ahead of me?

I can honestly say that you deserve to go ahead of me because you filed your petition earlier than us, and therefore the fair thing would

be for you and your family to be united appropriately as expected with processing as FIFO (First In First Out).

However, according to your logic, since my family's roots as US Citizens go back considerably further than yours, then I should not

have to be behind someone who is only a citizen because their parents were citizens. I have great-great-great-grand parents that have been

citizens of the USA. Does that make me more deserving than you? Does that make it right that my application was approved before yours?

Again, circumstances of birth and nationality are truly random, just as the choice of who we truly love is random.

Did any of us PLAN to have to go through this bureaucracy? Did andy of us PLAN to fall in love with someone that would need a visa?

Did any of our foreign spouses PLAN to marry an American? Did any of our foreign spouses PLAN to endure the pain of separation?

Even those spouses that are in the US and have not been granted their proper visa status are not without pain and uncertainty, and if they are,

they are naive. I do not contend that our government is cruel and heartless, even though from some of us sit it may appear so.

Rather I contend that our government is not as effective as is possible, not as compassionate as possible, and not as perfect as possible.

One of the main reasons these visa processes take so long is because of a conscious choice of our government's to yield to fear.

Clearly the checks and balances that are in place are fueled by fear rather than fueled by a liberty and allowing her citizens the freedom to pursue their happiness

with any person regardless of nationality. To that I remind you of the words spoken by one of our founding fathers, Benjamin Franklin who said,

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I'm not saying that we don't need checks and balances, but that she needs more concern for the families that are torn apart and devastated by her

inefficiencies, and practices that clearly are not fair to all, or even fair to those who line up first.

Our forefathers believed in a government that served the people. They believed that citizens should not fear the government, but the government should fear the people.

I am a US Citizen second, and a Human Being first and foremost. I believe that every human deserves fair treatment, regardless of random events that made them

fat, skinny, tall, short, rich, poor, attractive, plain, 1st generation USC or 10th generation USC.

I believe some governments are made happy when her people are distracted with discussing their prejudices or jealousy of other citizens, rather than discussing the injustices of the their government, which as we can see here are clearly without prejudice.

[sara..... 371]

I became a citizen of the USA by way of adoption........do i think that someone born here has more rights than i do..........nope.........do i think i have more rights than they do nope.........but i do feel that we should all be given fair treatment our cases dealt with in a timely manor ........and i also feel that the people at the service centers should be a little kinder and made to give us information about our petitions........so that those of us waiting year after year do not go insane

also im not sure what happened but i do know that at one time bush was trying to push thru the ability for any citizen of the USA to be able to be president no matter how that came about it had something to do with the governor of calif.........i read it a couple of years ago on yahoo so im not really sure what happened with that.............

sara

[rebeccajo 14]

I sympathize for those folks but not at my cost.

That's very charitable of you.

[rebeccajo 14]

I will go as radical as to say that i think it's bullshit that they have singers, athletes, artists.. all these people that ARENT family come first and all have priority dates in this quarter of 2008. I think NOT 1 of those petitions should even be LOOKED at until the backlog is reduced.

It's a completely different visa category and there for a reason. Imagine the Olympics if countries didn't have a more open policy towards it. Or the arts.

For example, Naturalized's can be deported... can lose citizenship.

Patently false.

[Gemmie 142]

CMNB, i'm not LUCKY to have been born here, it was something that was planned and orchestrated and carried out by my still living grandparents decision to get the hell out of a country that wouldn't guarantee OUR 1st Amendment rights. (Castro) So there's no luck in it. My grandparents came here with nothing... their degrees were ignored or not counted, their work experience unverifiable, their English sub-par and somehow they made it possible for my parents and now their kids (ME) to live the American Dream... only there are hundreds of thousands if not millions waiting in front of me, who with combined with my mother have over 70 years of natural citizenship...

Can you sit there and tell me that someone who was naturalized 5 years ago, 10 years ago or 8 months ago deserves to go ahead of me?

It amazes me that you can tell the story of how your family have come from foreign lands and struggled to stand on their feet in America, but succeeded... and then claim that you being born there should have priority over others that have done the same as your grandparents. Can you not see the hypocrisy there? My great-grandparents were American, does that mean my case has priority over others? In fact, they were NATIVE American, surely that means I have more right than any American here whose family came from other lands! You get behind me, even though your case came first!

Just no... first come, first served... as long as you're a US citizen, that's all that matters.

[Carlawarla 1]

There is so much hate and anger in this thread it's very troubling...and scary!

Edited August 21, 2008 by Carlawarla

[mrc1330 0]

As a natural born citizen of the US, I am proud to be an American. I never intended on falling in love with a foreigner and marrying him, nor did I have any clue about this entirely absurd process of being reunited with him. Would I do it over again? YOU BET!! I love my husband beyond the end of time!

What I WOULD do differently is prepare myself and educate myself about the freakish intricacies of the immigration process. This whole ordeal is so consuming that I've looked into a career in Immigration Law, no doubt something I wanna sink my teeth into and tear it apart from the inside-out! I want to someday advocate for poor suckers like myself who are caught unawares, but I am no dynamo.

And then there's all this talk about "Immigration Reform" and the hidden realities of it. Some ppl actually believe that if they just erect a fence that it fixes the issue, (maniacal laughter now). It's the INTERNAL problems that need to be fixed, such as processing times and background checks, customer service and our "right to know" what is truly happening with our particular cases, etc, without being forced into the mud and literally blinding us of the fact that THEY are systematically denying their own protocol and proceedures. There are too many agencies involved in the immigration process, too many hands stirring the pot, so to speak, and not a single one of them knows what the other is doing. Why is it any wonder that ppl enter here illegally? No one desires to put up with that kind of bureaucratic B.S., US citizen or not.

Personally, it has crossed my mind that it is unfair that those with enough cash and workforce potential are swifted through the gates, while the rest of us ache for our loved ones sometimes for years. Whatever happened to this "Family Unity Act" that was signed by Prez Clinton a few years back? In my experience, it's not been implemented one iota for me, no matter how many times I've tried to play that card with immigration. It's very exasperating, and I feel that my rights are flat-out ignored.

Preference should come in the order received. Granted, our case could be a bit more complicated than others, but its unfair to shove us to the bottom of the pile because of that. Hire more officers, for cryin-out-loud!

The stupid "fence" idea... hah ha... It's true what you say man, they talk about immigration reform as if illegal immigration is the root of "illegal immigration". The root of illegal immigration is that its near impossible to get here legally when you are an immediate relative of a US Citizen so why NOT, why NOT jump the border, why NOT come on YOLA, what's the worst that happens? They deny you on the spot.. instead of making you pay in excess of $500, waiting ofr 8-12 months for a decision, only for them to deny you at the end anyway. Same unfair result the way i see it. As far as i'm concerned... if my wife and daughter werent separated by 800 miles of water... i would've found a way for her to be here already legal or not.

[CJ Vasani 0]

As a natural born citizen of the US, I am proud to be an American. I never intended on falling in love with a foreigner and marrying him, nor did I have any clue about this entirely absurd process of being reunited with him. Would I do it over again? YOU BET!! I love my husband beyond the end of time!

What I WOULD do differently is prepare myself and educate myself about the freakish intricacies of the immigration process. This whole ordeal is so consuming that I've looked into a career in Immigration Law, no doubt something I wanna sink my teeth into and tear it apart from the inside-out! I want to someday advocate for poor suckers like myself who are caught unawares, but I am no dynamo.

And then there's all this talk about "Immigration Reform" and the hidden realities of it. Some ppl actually believe that if they just erect a fence that it fixes the issue, (maniacal laughter now). It's the INTERNAL problems that need to be fixed, such as processing times and background checks, customer service and our "right to know" what is truly happening with our particular cases, etc, without being forced into the mud and literally blinding us of the fact that THEY are systematically denying their own protocol and proceedures. There are too many agencies involved in the immigration process, too many hands stirring the pot, so to speak, and not a single one of them knows what the other is doing. Why is it any wonder that ppl enter here illegally? No one desires to put up with that kind of bureaucratic B.S., US citizen or not.

Personally, it has crossed my mind that it is unfair that those with enough cash and workforce potential are swifted through the gates, while the rest of us ache for our loved ones sometimes for years. Whatever happened to this "Family Unity Act" that was signed by Prez Clinton a few years back? In my experience, it's not been implemented one iota for me, no matter how many times I've tried to play that card with immigration. It's very exasperating, and I feel that my rights are flat-out ignored.

Preference should come in the order received. Granted, our case could be a bit more complicated than others, but its unfair to shove us to the bottom of the pile because of that. Hire more officers, for cryin-out-loud!

The stupid "fence" idea... hah ha... It's true what you say man, they talk about immigration reform as if illegal immigration is the root of "illegal immigration". The root of illegal immigration is that its near impossible to get here legally when you are an immediate relative of a US Citizen so why NOT, why NOT jump the border, why NOT come on YOLA, what's the worst that happens? They deny you on the spot.. instead of making you pay in excess of $500, waiting ofr 8-12 months for a decision, only for them to deny you at the end anyway. Same unfair result the way i see it. As far as i'm concerned... if my wife and daughter werent separated by 800 miles of water... i would've found a way for her to be here already legal or not.

If anyone tries to argue any further with this man, their sanity should be questioned. This man is jumping from 'I am natural-born blah blah' to 'I'll get them here whichever'. Very natural born citizeny of you sir...keep it up.

[daboyz 36]

It's a completely different visa category and there for a reason. Imagine the Olympics if countries didn't have a more open policy towards it. Or the arts.

Yeah where would we be if Ozzy couldn't come over here, put on a dress, drink a bottle of whiskey and piss on the Alamo?

[mrc1330 0]

It's a completely different visa category and there for a reason. Imagine the Olympics if countries didn't have a more open policy towards it. Or the arts.

Yeah where would we be if Ozzy couldn't come over here, put on a dress, drink a bottle of whiskey and piss on the Alamo?

I dont think grandparents or ancestry has anything to do with "weighting" the citizenship.. i only brought it up because someone ELSE brought up my decent... so i merely stated my ancestry...

Who cares about the Olympics if we can't be with our families... I mean think about it, just because the Olympics come around does that mean we are allowed to drop out safety standards and guard for athletes... These taliban are trained from the day they are able to comprehend to hate the US for no valid reason... why wouldn't they teach them a little gymnastics for some crazy plot? They taught them how to fly... Does anybody still think visas for Olympics are SAFE?

I agree with FIFO... but if USCIS wants to make special categoeies for Olympians, and Athletes, and 5'3" Males with one finger, then why not NATURAL BORN?

[Kevin and 10]

I agree with FIFO... but if USCIS wants to make special categoeies for Olympians, and Athletes, and 5'3" Males with one finger, then why not NATURAL BORN?

There might be problem with the Equal Protection Clause.

only natural born's can get a US birth certificate

I have a US BC and I am naturalized.

[imakhan2 0]

As a natural born citizen of the US, I am proud to be an American. I never intended on falling in love with a foreigner and marrying him, nor did I have any clue about this entirely absurd process of being reunited with him. Would I do it over again? YOU BET!! I love my husband beyond the end of time!

What I WOULD do differently is prepare myself and educate myself about the freakish intricacies of the immigration process. This whole ordeal is so consuming that I've looked into a career in Immigration Law, no doubt something I wanna sink my teeth into and tear it apart from the inside-out! I want to someday advocate for poor suckers like myself who are caught unawares, but I am no dynamo.

And then there's all this talk about "Immigration Reform" and the hidden realities of it. Some ppl actually believe that if they just erect a fence that it fixes the issue, (maniacal laughter now). It's the INTERNAL problems that need to be fixed, such as processing times and background checks, customer service and our "right to know" what is truly happening with our particular cases, etc, without being forced into the mud and literally blinding us of the fact that THEY are systematically denying their own protocol and proceedures. There are too many agencies involved in the immigration process, too many hands stirring the pot, so to speak, and not a single one of them knows what the other is doing. Why is it any wonder that ppl enter here illegally? No one desires to put up with that kind of bureaucratic B.S., US citizen or not.

Personally, it has crossed my mind that it is unfair that those with enough cash and workforce potential are swifted through the gates, while the rest of us ache for our loved ones sometimes for years. Whatever happened to this "Family Unity Act" that was signed by Prez Clinton a few years back? In my experience, it's not been implemented one iota for me, no matter how many times I've tried to play that card with immigration. It's very exasperating, and I feel that my rights are flat-out ignored.

Preference should come in the order received. Granted, our case could be a bit more complicated than others, but its unfair to shove us to the bottom of the pile because of that. Hire more officers, for cryin-out-loud!

The stupid "fence" idea... hah ha... It's true what you say man, they talk about immigration reform as if illegal immigration is the root of "illegal immigration". The root of illegal immigration is that its near impossible to get here legally when you are an immediate relative of a US Citizen so why NOT, why NOT jump the border, why NOT come on YOLA, what's the worst that happens? They deny you on the spot.. instead of making you pay in excess of $500, waiting ofr 8-12 months for a decision, only for them to deny you at the end anyway. Same unfair result the way i see it. As far as i'm concerned... if my wife and daughter werent separated by 800 miles of water... i would've found a way for her to be here already legal or not.

If anyone tries to argue any further with this man, their sanity should be questioned. This man is jumping from 'I am natural-born blah blah' to 'I'll get them here whichever'. Very natural born citizeny of you sir...keep it up.