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My husband - USC

Me - beneficiary

OK, at the beginning of April my husband got so sick of his job that he decided to quit.

We have talked about moving to SF.

We decided to do it sooner.

Because I own a business, I'm an artist, I can live anywhere, well not quite but any large city would be fine.

So we just wanted to make sure that he wil like the job he finds there, etc before I make the move.

Long story short he went ahead and moved at the begining of April, found a job (I, in the meantime went to see my family) and I am going to join him in SF at the end of June, after finishing my stuff in NJ/NY.

Before that I'm flying to see him in a couple of weeks to celebrate our 1 year anniversary - May 24 and then he's flying in for our interview.

So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

First of all I'd like to ask you your opinion about our situation.

Advice?

Thank you,

Anna


October 30, 2005 - Married in Vegas

December 27, 2005 - EAD, AP, AOS mailed

January 4, 2006 - received in Chicago

January 27, 2006 - RFE for medical received

February 13, 2006 - Medical received

February 15, 2006 - Biometrics appointment at 10 am

March 1, 2006 - AP touched

March 4, 2006 - AP received

March 8, 2006 - EAD received

March 29, 2006 - interview notice received - May 31, 2006

May 31, 2006 - Successful interview!!! Approved

June 12, 2006 - Green card received

Feb 28, 2008 - will be sending removal of conditions docs.

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on" - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Anna,

An unusual, but probably not unique, and understandable situation.

Except, how do you live your lives without a single bill for either of you?

Yodrak

My husband - USC

Me - beneficiary

OK, at the beginning of April my husband got so sick of his job that he decided to quit.

We have talked about moving to SF.

We decided to do it sooner.

Because I own a business, I'm an artist, I can live anywhere, well not quite but any large city would be fine.

So we just wanted to make sure that he wil like the job he finds there, etc before I make the move.

Long story short he went ahead and moved at the begining of April, found a job (I, in the meantime went to see my family) and I am going to join him in SF at the end of June, after finishing my stuff in NJ/NY.

Before that I'm flying to see him in a couple of weeks to celebrate our 1 year anniversary - May 24 and then he's flying in for our interview.

So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

First of all I'd like to ask you your opinion about our situation.

Advice?

Thank you,

Anna

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Anna,

An unusual, but probably not unique, and understandable situation.

Except, how do you live your lives without a single bill for either of you?

Yodrak

My husband - USC

Me - beneficiary

OK, at the beginning of April my husband got so sick of his job that he decided to quit.

We have talked about moving to SF.

We decided to do it sooner.

Because I own a business, I'm an artist, I can live anywhere, well not quite but any large city would be fine.

So we just wanted to make sure that he wil like the job he finds there, etc before I make the move.

Long story short he went ahead and moved at the begining of April, found a job (I, in the meantime went to see my family) and I am going to join him in SF at the end of June, after finishing my stuff in NJ/NY.

Before that I'm flying to see him in a couple of weeks to celebrate our 1 year anniversary - May 24 and then he's flying in for our interview.

So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

First of all I'd like to ask you your opinion about our situation.

Advice?

Thank you,

Anna

No, no we do have bills but not under both names.

For example we share the house in NJ so the utilities are included in rent.

Anyway they will have to understand that our lives have to go on and we shouldn't plan moving, etc. taking the interview into consideration.


October 30, 2005 - Married in Vegas

December 27, 2005 - EAD, AP, AOS mailed

January 4, 2006 - received in Chicago

January 27, 2006 - RFE for medical received

February 13, 2006 - Medical received

February 15, 2006 - Biometrics appointment at 10 am

March 1, 2006 - AP touched

March 4, 2006 - AP received

March 8, 2006 - EAD received

March 29, 2006 - interview notice received - May 31, 2006

May 31, 2006 - Successful interview!!! Approved

June 12, 2006 - Green card received

Feb 28, 2008 - will be sending removal of conditions docs.

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on" - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Anna,

An unusual, but probably not unique, and understandable situation.

Except, how do you live your lives without a single bill for either of you?

Yodrak

My husband - USC

Me - beneficiary

OK, at the beginning of April my husband got so sick of his job that he decided to quit.

We have talked about moving to SF.

We decided to do it sooner.

Because I own a business, I'm an artist, I can live anywhere, well not quite but any large city would be fine.

So we just wanted to make sure that he wil like the job he finds there, etc before I make the move.

Long story short he went ahead and moved at the begining of April, found a job (I, in the meantime went to see my family) and I am going to join him in SF at the end of June, after finishing my stuff in NJ/NY.

Before that I'm flying to see him in a couple of weeks to celebrate our 1 year anniversary - May 24 and then he's flying in for our interview.

So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

First of all I'd like to ask you your opinion about our situation.

Advice?

Thank you,

Anna

No, no we do have bills but not under both names.

For example we share the house in NJ so the utilities are included in rent.

Anyway they will have to understand that our lives have to go on and we shouldn't plan moving, etc. taking the interview into consideration.

Hi Anna!

Well, it is like you said quite unusual but geez, life is unusual and unpredictable at most times, right? :D

Anyways..., let's see...

You have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

So why not try this, it might just help?

- copy of marriage licence and certificate (of course I know, I thought I would just mention it just in case)

- letters from family and friends knowing about your situation, sympathizing and supporting your marriage

- letter from his new employer aknowledging the fact that the two of you are married, vice versa the same for you too

- go to your landlord, add his name to the lease, let him do this to his lease also

- if any of you or the both of you have cars then put both names on the title(s)

- hopefully you have changed your maiden name to your husband's last name on your Driver's Licence/ ID and on your SS card before you applied for the AOS and the EAD, if not at least apply in married name.

BUT ONE BIG QUESTION:

Did you come here on a K1? If so... do you already have an EAD to be working? Even as an artist you would still need an EAD to work. Because if you have been working without an EAD... you are in trouble. Max income allowed without EAD for us beneficiaries is $600 PER YEAR!

One thing to keep in mind is that "they" at the USCIS never "have to" understand anything if they don't want to. They can simply give you an RFE or denial, however hearthless and unfair it may seem. So the more we can do to give them less reason to, even if we have to go out of our ways to do it... we better do it for our own benefits.

Just my 2 cents IMHO.

What do you think?

Gwyneth :)


Kevin & Gwyneth

Phoenix - AZ, USA and Jakarta - DKI, Indonesia

click here to go to our website

** 27 November 2003, ENGAGED

FIRST K1 PETITION

** Desember 2003, APVisa paid in full

** January 2004, all translated papers sent from Jakarta to Phoenix

** January 2004, I-129F package sent by APVisa from Chicago to Phoenix

** January 2004, BC translated by BTS, California

** February 2004, BC re-translated by BTS, California

** 28 February 2004, I-129F sent by fedex from Phoenix to ApVisa

** March 2004, I-129F sent by post from APVisa to CSC

** 11 March 2004, NOA1

** 14 August 2004, received RFE (failure to meet in person 2 years prior to filing petition) obvious to us that our 1st petition will be denied.

** 13 November 2004, traveled to Indonesia to meet Gwyneth

** 21 November 2004, returned to USA...hard to leave her behind, but our comittment to marriage and our relationship is strengthened.

** 24 November 2004, received "Denial"

SECOND AND LAST K1 PETITION

** 25 November 2004, starting to prepare 2nd petition now that we have met in person.

** January 2005, I-129F package sent by FedEx to the CSC

** 10 January 2005, I-129F package received by the CSC

** 11 January 2005, NOA1 received, I LOVE YOU LIKE CRAZY KEVIN, CAN'T WAIT TO BE HOME IN YOUR ARMS AGAIN!**

14 FEBRUARY 2005, NOA2 RECEIVED... THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH CSC FOR THE BEST VALENTINE GIFT EVER

~*Kevin R Shugart (USA) & Gwyneth I Wattimena (Indonesia)*~.png

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Max income allowed without EAD for us beneficiaries is $600 PER YEAR!

That's interesting. Where did you learn that?


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Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

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Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

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Max income allowed without EAD for us beneficiaries is $600 PER YEAR!

That's interesting. Where did you learn that?

Echo that sentiment. I sense that the alien is muddling the requirements that IRS have for reportable income of self-employed. Isn't $600.00 the magic number for issuance of 1099s?


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I've never seen that either. I would love to read the source.

I have also never seen something that said you needed EAD to sell things ( art ). I was under the impression that it was only for employment on a regular job.

Max income allowed without EAD for us beneficiaries is $600 PER YEAR!

That's interesting. Where did you learn that?


10 Nov mailed I 129F to TSC

16 Nov 29 Nov Notice date

3 Dec Received NOA 1

3 Jan 05 Please I just want to be touched

3 may 05 NOA2 E mail notification

7 May 05 Mail NOA2

11 May 05 sent petition to Bogota

18 May Packet 3 arrived

19 May Checklist taken to consulate

31 May Packet 4 delivered

29 June visa granted

1 July Visa delivered

Sometime in July Lucero came to US

13 Sept 05 Married

1 Nov 05 -USCIS recieved 485 and EAD

13 December RFE stupid things I should have included Returned very quickly

27 March received bio letter for New Orleans

7 Apr_06 Bio done in New Orleans

20 April 06 Touched on all applications

21 April Email received EAD approved

27 Apr Received EAD card

30 May 2006 Received appointment letter for JaX on 13 July 2006

13 July Interview successful approved

20 July Received green card

30 June 08 Sent I751 to remove conditions

25 July 08 Application returned erroneously incorrect fee

27 July mailed new application with separate checks

15 Sept 08 Application returned erroneously K2 not within 90 day timeframe

17 Sept Mailed 3rd application with mountains of proof of error copied Senator Mel Martinez

09 October 4th application package sent. This time they said the app signature page was a copy

10 Oct Sent package again 4th time.

25 Oct Received another NOA for Wife with $625 for the amount with one year extension

30 Oct 2008 Still nothing for step daughter. Checks still haven't cleared the bank

24 November Checks finally cleared the bank

February biometrics for wife Nothing for daughter.

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Nope, not true, in fact, even many volunteer opportunities are regulated under the EAD. If the position is normally one that would command remuneration or contributes to future emplyability, then it's "verboten".


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So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

I am in an almost identical situation. I'm the alien and my wife is the USC...

All we had was: my health insurance showing she was a beneficiary, dental insurance showing the same, joint bank accounts (with substantial savings), a copy of the transfer showing when I sent my money from Australia to the U.S. (into her account, which I was added to), joint car insurance and joint motorcycle insurance.

That was enough to satisfy the DAO in Portland...


09/27/05: Posted I-129F to VSC

09/30/05: Received NOA1 from VSC

10/08/05: NVC receives I-129F from VSC

11/28/05: Medical completed in Dakar

11/30/05: Interview completed in Dakar

12/01/05: Received visa in Dakar

12/22/05: Arrived in the U.S. via JFK & received temp. EAD

12/28/05: Applied for SSN

12/29/05: Applied for marriage licence

01/07/06: Got married!

01/17/06: Received SSN (still waiting for actual card)

01/18/06: Started new job

01/18/06: Applied for Maine state ID

01/26/06: Sent EAD, AOS and AP applications to Chicago lockbox

01/28/06: Received Maine state ID

02/04/06: Received NOA1 for AOS and AP, sent in wrong check for EAD :(

02/06/06: Resent EAD to Chicago lockbox

02/14/06: Received NOA1 for EAD

02/15/06: Received biometrics appointment date

03/10/06: Gave biometrics

03/24/06: AP approved via email

03/30/06: Received AP document in mail

04/12/06: Get immunization supplements

04/24/06: AOS interview (case pending, need another I-864 and FBI name check pending)

04/28/06: EAD approved via email

05/01/06: Received EAD card in mail

10/20/06: AOS approved! After almost 180 days...

10/21/06: Received AOS approval email

10/27/06: Received Welcome to America letter

10/29/06: Received Green Card in mail

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Thanks, guys.

Well I was on student visas before so I had a work permit every now and then.

Now I have had it also since March.

I don't think you are allowed to work at all before getting the work permit

but now I have had it anyway.

Thanks you all for responding...

Anna,

An unusual, but probably not unique, and understandable situation.

Except, how do you live your lives without a single bill for either of you?

Yodrak

My husband - USC

Me - beneficiary

OK, at the beginning of April my husband got so sick of his job that he decided to quit.

We have talked about moving to SF.

We decided to do it sooner.

Because I own a business, I'm an artist, I can live anywhere, well not quite but any large city would be fine.

So we just wanted to make sure that he wil like the job he finds there, etc before I make the move.

Long story short he went ahead and moved at the begining of April, found a job (I, in the meantime went to see my family) and I am going to join him in SF at the end of June, after finishing my stuff in NJ/NY.

Before that I'm flying to see him in a couple of weeks to celebrate our 1 year anniversary - May 24 and then he's flying in for our interview.

So now we have no lease, no bills and 2 sets of keys to different places.

But we do have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

First of all I'd like to ask you your opinion about our situation.

Advice?

Thank you,

Anna

No, no we do have bills but not under both names.

For example we share the house in NJ so the utilities are included in rent.

Anyway they will have to understand that our lives have to go on and we shouldn't plan moving, etc. taking the interview into consideration.

Hi Anna!

Well, it is like you said quite unusual but geez, life is unusual and unpredictable at most times, right? :D

Anyways..., let's see...

You have:

- joint health insurance

- joint savings and checking

- joint taxes 2005

- plane tickets from Christmas when we went to FL to see his family

- pictures from Vegas - marriage, pictures with friends, pictures from Thanksgiving from Long Island - his uncle, Christmas - when I met his parents.

- emails we wrote to each other

So why not try this, it might just help?

- copy of marriage licence and certificate (of course I know, I thought I would just mention it just in case)

- letters from family and friends knowing about your situation, sympathizing and supporting your marriage

- letter from his new employer aknowledging the fact that the two of you are married, vice versa the same for you too

- go to your landlord, add his name to the lease, let him do this to his lease also

- if any of you or the both of you have cars then put both names on the title(s)

- hopefully you have changed your maiden name to your husband's last name on your Driver's Licence/ ID and on your SS card before you applied for the AOS and the EAD, if not at least apply in married name.

BUT ONE BIG QUESTION:

Did you come here on a K1? If so... do you already have an EAD to be working? Even as an artist you would still need an EAD to work. Because if you have been working without an EAD... you are in trouble. Max income allowed without EAD for us beneficiaries is $600 PER YEAR!

One thing to keep in mind is that "they" at the USCIS never "have to" understand anything if they don't want to. They can simply give you an RFE or denial, however hearthless and unfair it may seem. So the more we can do to give them less reason to, even if we have to go out of our ways to do it... we better do it for our own benefits.

Just my 2 cents IMHO.

What do you think?

Gwyneth :)

Thanks Gweneth for your suggestions,

Yes, I already have the ID and SS# under my married name.

And I do have a new work authorization, I have had them before since I was on a student visa before.

Thanks again!!!


October 30, 2005 - Married in Vegas

December 27, 2005 - EAD, AP, AOS mailed

January 4, 2006 - received in Chicago

January 27, 2006 - RFE for medical received

February 13, 2006 - Medical received

February 15, 2006 - Biometrics appointment at 10 am

March 1, 2006 - AP touched

March 4, 2006 - AP received

March 8, 2006 - EAD received

March 29, 2006 - interview notice received - May 31, 2006

May 31, 2006 - Successful interview!!! Approved

June 12, 2006 - Green card received

Feb 28, 2008 - will be sending removal of conditions docs.

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on" - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Ah! Well, I hope we have enough for our interview. (June 29). All we have is:

(other than the typical like marriage certificate etc)

-joint savings

-joint checking

-credit card in my name but he has a card for the account

-lots of photos

-congratulations cards etc

-some random things like our website, our newspaper marriage announcement etc

we have NO

-lease (live with my parents)

-joint health insurance (my parents carry me still)

-large property (will be buying a house, but not til we know where I will be getting a job)

-no car insurance (my parents carry us)

-no car yet (well, we have one, but in my parents name, so they can carry the insurance)

-I'm a teacher and I just graduated in December...so, no fulltime job yet cause openings dont usually get filled until the summer!

Eeek! Nothing much we can do though. I guess we will organize what we have really well, get letters from family and friends and hope for the best. Maybe I will have a job offer by then!


February 28, 2004 Pedro and I began to date :)

May 24, 2005 I-129F packet sent to NSC

May 26, 2005 I-129F packet arrives at NSC

May 27, 2005 NOA1 (online)

June 3, 2005 NOA1 received by snail mail (dated May 27)

August 22, 2005 NOA2 (online)

August 25, 2005 NOA2 (snailmail)

August 25, 2005 forwarded to NVC

September 12, 2005 forwarded to Consulate (Ciudad Juarez)

October 6, 2005 Consulate says it has received our papers (email)

October 25, 2005 receive Packet 3 (in U.S.)

October 26, 2005 I leave for Juarez (interview!)

October 31, 2005 Pedro gets his visa:)

December 9, 2005 Pedro arrives

December 22, 2005 small wedding

January 30, 2006 NOA 1 receipt date (EAD, AP, AOS)

April 18, 2006 EAD, AOS Biometrics (78 days)

June 23, 2006 large wedding

June 29, 2006 AOS interview

June 30, 2006 AOS approved online

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I'd say that you'll only be apart for three months total... and you've seen each other in the interim (at least I HOPE you've seen each other in the interim!), so it's not like you've been living apart for years. I'm sure that USCIS understands that people want to go and visit their families and that the USC can't always tag along, and that people have to get new jobs and start over every so often.


Karen - Melbourne, Australia/John - Florida, USA

- Proposal (20 August 2000) to marriage (19 December 2004) - 4 years, 3 months, 25 days (1,578 days)

STAGE 1 - Applying for K1 (15 September 2003) to K1 Approval (13 July 2004) - 9 months, 29 days (303 days)

STAGE 2A - Arriving in US (4 Nov 2004) to AOS Application (16 April 2005) - 5 months, 13 days (164 days)

STAGE 2B - Applying for AOS to GC Approval - 9 months, 4 days (279 days)

STAGE 3 - Lifting Conditions. Filing (19 Dec 2007) to Approval (December 11 2008)

STAGE 4 - CITIZENSHIP (filing under 5-year rule - residency start date on green card Jan 11th, 2006)

*N400 filed December 15, 2011

*Interview March 12, 2012

*Oath Ceremony March 23, 2012.

ALL DONE!!!!!!!!

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Thanks so much for you encouraging words!

It's been 1 month since we saw each other.

Well, my husband left on April 10th (roadtrip with his friends) to San Francisco and I went to Poland on the 12th.

He found a job and started working on May 1.

I'm going to see him - flying to SF on May 23rd to celebrate our 1 year anniversary

and he's coming for the interview that we have on May 31st.

Then I'm moving to SF at the end of June.

I hope they'll understand, we are 25 and 29 so we're still searching and exploring - jobs, places, etc.


October 30, 2005 - Married in Vegas

December 27, 2005 - EAD, AP, AOS mailed

January 4, 2006 - received in Chicago

January 27, 2006 - RFE for medical received

February 13, 2006 - Medical received

February 15, 2006 - Biometrics appointment at 10 am

March 1, 2006 - AP touched

March 4, 2006 - AP received

March 8, 2006 - EAD received

March 29, 2006 - interview notice received - May 31, 2006

May 31, 2006 - Successful interview!!! Approved

June 12, 2006 - Green card received

Feb 28, 2008 - will be sending removal of conditions docs.

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on" - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Not much to say, but welcome to SF! We moved here last fall (got married at the beautiful City Hall) and we really like it. :)


4.21.06 - Married!

5.2.06 - Mailed AOS and EAD to Chicago

5.4.06 - Application arrives in lockbox

5.9.06 - NOA 1 for AOS and EAD

5.11.06 - NOA 1 rec'd!

5.17.06 - Touched (AOS, EAD)

5.19.06 - Touched (AOS, EAD)

5.20.06 - Biometrics notice for AOS and EAD

5.30.06 - Biometrics!

6.1.06 - Touched (AOS)

6.3.06 - Touched (AOS, EAD)

6.26.06 - Interview notice!!! (Aug. 9 at 10 a.m.)

7.6.06 - Touched (EAD)

7.8.06 - Touched (EAD)

7.10.06 - Touched (EAD)

7.11.06 - EAD approval notice!!!

7.15.06 - EAD card rec'd!

8.9.06 - Interview - APPROVED!!!

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