Should There Be a "Come and Try It Out" Visa?

[anya-D 8]

And therein, of course, lies the rub.

But could the argument be made that those who are intent on committing visa fraud will do it, no matter what form of visa they have to abuse to do it?

definately - they would. But it might be more difficult to do with K-1 or K-3 when they have to make people fall in love with them enough to marry them to apply for the visa for them... and that usually takes some time... my 2 cents

[mercuryroad 0]

I see that I and other whos intention are true would benefit from it - but it is also make it easier for people to commit fraud

And therein, of course, lies the rub.

But could the argument be made that those who are intent on committing visa fraud will do it, no matter what form of visa they have to abuse to do it?

As long as there is a system, people will try to beat it.

The sad part is that in some ways I feel the government has dictated the timeline of Lu and I's relationship instead of us. We're both intelligent and reasonable people (well....at least she is) that don't want to jump into anything and it is hard to feel like you are not jumping into something and being careless when you have not had the opportunity to visit the other person and see where and how you will live.

[Fandango 1,440]

Furthermore, I think there should be less scrutiny the longer you're together. If you've been a couple longer than a couple of years, I think you should be fast-tracked through the system. If you can show you've spent extensive time together, that it's not a split second decision, and that you really KNOW one another (and you still want to get married, lol) ...then I think the rules should be different.

We lived together in Ireland and knew each other inside out, but we never once thought "We're special, we should be given a quicker and easier route". Every body needs to go through the same process for the visa procedures to have some consistency. Living together and being with each other every day simply meant we had lots of supporting evidence for our Embassy interview...it was still as nerve racking though!

I think if you have one set of rules for one couple, and another for another, it would be an unfair judgemental marker.

I think couples who have met once for lets say a week or two should be held to a higher level of scrutiny than ones who have lived together or have proven by reasonable logic that they are both aware of the person they are pledging their lives to. It's not a 'special' thing....but isn't the whole process partially there to prove legitimacy of a relationship? Doesn't showing being in an ongoing relationship for X amt of years prove that? And really, if it was fraudulent, wouldn't having to be in a relationship for several years be a deterrant?

[Fuzzness 2]

cheers to you abby for making us think

i havent thought a lot about this, and i say no. too easy to fraud the system.

[Nessa 23]

...It's like legal illegal immigration, lol!!!

i agree

[mercuryroad 0]

cheers to you abby for making us think

i havent thought a lot about this, and i say no. too easy to fraud the system.

It would be nice for people in my situation to have some options though.

[Fandango 1,440]

Pax, surely you have some sort of opinion one way or another?

[GaryC 7]

A PMS (pre marital sex) visa?? Not while the republicans control things! Now if Bill Clinton were still president it would be a lock!!

[Ban Hammer 14,286]

A PMS (pre marital sex) visa?? Not while the republicans control things! Now if Bill Clinton were still president it would be a lock!!

ah the "test drive visa". if clinton was around it would be called the H or "hummer" visa

[Jasman0717 9]

Well?

In Terri's thread, a few of us mentioned that the K-1 is not a "come and try it out" visa. True enough. The K-1 is, and should be, for persons who do indeed intend to complete a wedding of some sort within 90 days of the non-USC arriving stateside.

So what would you say to a "come and try it out visa"? A "Y" visa, maybe, LOL. (Or a "y not" visa. I'm so punny.) Such a visa would be valid for, say, 12-18 months. You could apply for AP and EAD with it, which would all expire at the expiration of the visa UNLESS a wedding happened and AOS was subsequently applied for. The USC would have to prove ability to support and might also have to agree to be responsible for the non-USC departing the country if things don't work out.

Would it be open to fraud? Well, yes, but let's not get too deeply into that issue. What would everyone think of this? Would you pursue it, or would you have?

[mercuryroad 0]

A PMS (pre marital sex) visa?? Not while the republicans control things! Now if Bill Clinton were still president it would be a lock!!

ah the "test drive visa". if clinton was around it would be called the H or "hummer" visa

intern visa

wardrobe required

[ChristinaM 0]

Fine. All ignore my sensible suggestion in favour of "Intern Visas" then. See if I care.

[mercuryroad 0]

Fine. All ignore my sensible suggestion in favour of "Intern Visas" then. See if I care.

i like the idea......a free cigar with each entry

[Mirorgate 0]

Fine. All ignore my sensible suggestion in favour of "Intern Visas" then. See if I care.

i like the idea......a free cigar with each entry

well, that aint no cigar a'tall now as that Mr President!

[Fandango 1,440]

another thing *not to derail this off topic thread * is that who here would agree to sign an affadavit of support for someone who's just tire kickin?