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Hello. If my spouse and I married by proxy would we need to go the K1 or K3 route? I believe, although we have a marriage license, that we are considered as "engaged" by the U.S. immigration unless the marriage was consumated after the date on the license. And I have not seen my husband after this time.

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Hello. If my spouse and I married by proxy would we need to go the K1 or K3 route? I believe, although we have a marriage license, that we are considered as "engaged" by the U.S. immigration unless the marriage was consumated after the date on the license. And I have not seen my husband after this time.

Any marriage would send you down the K-3 or CR-1 route. But I don't think a proxy marriage is enough to meet the requirements of a marriage visa. Well the marriage itself may, but you may have to meet each other in person afterwards at a minimum.

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Hello. If my spouse and I married by proxy would we need to go the K1 or K3 route? I believe, although we have a marriage license, that we are considered as "engaged" by the U.S. immigration unless the marriage was consumated after the date on the license. And I have not seen my husband after this time.

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5. Proxy marriage

A proxy marriage is a marriage where the parties were not physically present in the presence of each other. A proxy marriage is generally not accepted under immigration laws unless it is subsequently consummated. However, a party of an unconsummated proxy marriage may enjoy immigration benefits as a fiancé, such as applying for a K-1 visa, if the opposite party is a U.S. citizen,.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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seems odd

K-1 Visa Journey

03/10/2007 - Sent I-129F to NSC

06/05/2007 - Approved

06/25/2007 - NVC Case Number received

07/05/2007 - Fiance received Packets 3 and 4

09/06/2007 - INTERVIEW----- APPROVED

09/13/2007 - VISA IN HAND

09/14/2007 - POE AT JFK

10/26/2007 - Wedding

01/17/2008 - Email from CRIS that I-129 was approved!

AOS Journey

10/28/2007 - AOS mailed to Chicago via Federal Express

10/29/2007 - AOS received at Chicago

11/05/2007 - NOA for I-131, I-485, I-765

12/28/2007 - Biometrics

12/29/2007 - Case appeared on USCIS website

12/31/2007 - EAD Card Production Ordered; AP Approved

01/10/2008 - AP Received in mail

01/12/2008 - EAD Card Recieved in mail

07/24/2008 - AOS Interview

07/30/2008 -Card Production Ordered

08/11/2008 - GREEN CARD RECIEVED

04/30/2010 - ROC mailed to CA via USPS Express Mail

08/10/2010 - EAD Card Production Ordered; AOS Approved

04/24/2011 - Mailed N-400

05/12/2011 - Received I-797C

06/08/2011 - Biometrics

07/25/2011 - N-400 Interview

07/25/2011 - Oath Ceremony

MY HUSBAND IS A US CITIZEN!!!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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To go K1 they need to have been physically together in the last 2 years right ?

First visit:2007-09-12 to 2008-09-23

I-129F Sent : 2007-11-24

I-129F NOA1 : 2007-11-30

I-129F NOA2 : 2008-03-31

NVC Received : 2008-04-21

NVC Left : 2008-04-23

Consulate Received : 2008-04-28

Packet 3 Received : 2008-05-20

Interivew date : 2008-08-07 CO asks inappropraite questions

His father died: 2008-08-18

Retain Marc Ellis 2008-09

Visited Nigeria again: 2008-11-12

petitioned returned to CSC :2008-11-27

returned to USA 2008-12-13

His father buried 2009-01-03

picks up K1 visa Nov 2009

Marriage Dec 2009

take throne as Igwe /Lolo 2010 or 2011

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To go K1 they need to have been physically together in the last 2 years right ?

:yes:

except .....

"if it is established that compliance would result in extreme hardship to the petitioner or that compliance would violate strict and long-established customs of the K-1 beneficiary's foreign culture or social practice, as where marriages are traditionally arranged by the parents of the contracting parties and the prospective bride and groom are prohibited from meeting subsequent to the arrangement and prior to the wedding day." INA § 214.2(k)(2).

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except .....

"if it is established that compliance would result in extreme hardship to the petitioner or that compliance would violate strict and long-established customs of the K-1 beneficiary's foreign culture or social practice, as where marriages are traditionally arranged by the parents of the contracting parties and the prospective bride and groom are prohibited from meeting subsequent to the arrangement and prior to the wedding day." INA § 214.2(k)(2).

Just curious.... have you ever seen or heard of a K-1 visa being granted under these circumstances?

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except .....

"if it is established that compliance would result in extreme hardship to the petitioner or that compliance would violate strict and long-established customs of the K-1 beneficiary's foreign culture or social practice, as where marriages are traditionally arranged by the parents of the contracting parties and the prospective bride and groom are prohibited from meeting subsequent to the arrangement and prior to the wedding day." INA § 214.2(k)(2).

Just curious.... have you ever seen or heard of a K-1 visa being granted under these circumstances?

They do exist and there are exceptions to the 2 year meeting requirement that are made sometimes for individuals that under active military orders or deployed to locations where civil unrest could place either party in jeopardy. You can find citations for some older cases in the AAU.

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They do exist and there are exceptions to the 2 year meeting requirement that are made sometimes for individuals that under active military orders or deployed to locations where civil unrest could place either party in jeopardy. You can find citations for some older cases in the AAU.

Thanks. :thumbs:

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Filed: Other Country: China
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They do exist and there are exceptions to the 2 year meeting requirement that are made sometimes for individuals that under active military orders or deployed to locations where civil unrest could place either party in jeopardy. You can find citations for some older cases in the AAU.

Thanks. :thumbs:

I recall one being reported here in the past few months.

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Are you saying you've NEVER met in person? Or at least not met in the past two years? Do you fulfill the K-1 requirement of having met in person within the two years before you file the petition?

I think a waiver of the "meeting in person within the past two years" requirement would be hard to attain for a couple that was already legally married by proxy, since I can't think of a religion or cultural tradition that forbids spouses from meeting each other in person after they've gone through a marriage ceremony. A waiver might be granted based on the "extreme hardship" clause, but those aren't granted unless it's really demonstrated that the hardship is genuinely extreme. You'd have to show it's impossible to meet in both his country, her country, and any third country.

You've eventually got the correct answer that a K-3 isn't available to you until after the marriage is consummated. The K-1 is available, assuming you meet the requirements.

If you've met in person within the past two years, you could go ahead and file for a K-1. If you go the K-1 route, remember that as soon as you consummate the marriage, you're legally married in the eyes of the USCIS, and he's ineligible to enter on the K-1, so you'd have to start over via the K-3 route. So stay away from each other until after he enters the US.

From an immigration standpoint, the easiest thing is probably to plan a honeymoon somewhere, save your travel documents, and file for a K-3.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Seems you may have to file for K-1 any ways.. proxy marriage sounds kinda funny to me..

any ways.. good luck to you..

Its all for LOVE..

K1-JOURNEY

06/07/07 - I-129F Mailed.

01/10/08 - NOA2 hard copy received

01/18/08 - NVC forward to BKK Embassy

02/12/08 - Police records obtained

03/01/08 - Mailed Packet 3 back via EMS mail.

04/02/08 - Packet 4 received

04/23/08 - Medical Exam.

06/03/08 - Interview PASSED!!

06/05/08 - Visa in hand

06/14/08 - POE SFO

08/14/08 - MARRIED

AOS-JOURNEY

11/17/08 - AOS Packet Mailed.

11/19/08 - Packet delivered.

12/01/08 - NOA received for EAD and AOS dated 11/26

01/06/09 - Placed SR for no Biometric.

01/10/09 - Biometric 01/23/09

02/23/09 - EAD card received

03/23/09 - AOS interview 04/22/09

04/22/09 - Interview AOS approved!

05/04/09 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

LOC-JOURNEY

01/26/11 - I-751 Mailed.

04/18/11 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED!

 
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